>Programming job? About 55.
there is a dude at my company that is like 58 and honestly his brain seems to be "faster" than all the young fellas
you can definitely keep a programming job until retirement if you keep your brain exercised
Yeah, but did he get the job at 58? It's not that you get fired at mandatory requirement age, it's that people stop hiring you because you're too expensive and they'll assume you're probably going to jump ship or retire in a couple of years anyway so there's no point acclimating you to the environment.
>It's akin to learning a language like english
No it's not. In programming symbols are just building blocks. Human languages are completely different and they have a dedicated field of study for them called linguistics.
You can always spot the sub-humans. People who think "programming" is about memorizing the syntax of whatever language they happen to be using. This is why you're being replaced by indians and algorithms. You're not a programmer, you're a filthy coder.
For not-getting-banned reasons, I should say I am actually not 4 years old, I know it hits hard, but shit's like that. I am sorry, you can send you complain to [email protected].
Learning? 5 (because thats the age i started programming and have to cope by setting the upper limit to my age at that time)
Job? 48 (because after 43 years I finally got a job and have to cope because of the reason i sstated above)
Anon, why did it take you 20 years to find a job as a programmer after 20 years of programming?
I'm genuinely curious. Why would you do that? Why not just pick it up as a hobby if you already have a successful career? Why become a 44 year old junior making 50k? Makes no fricking sense.
If you had started 10 years earlier, you wouldn't have to put any hard work into learning right now so it's basically pointless to start because you don't want to put in the hard work now and therefore it's too late for you.
Or maybe that's not true, but that's what a lot of people seem to think.
my previous programming class in community college had a really old fricking professor who was astounded you could play Pacman on an iPad but worked in Silicon Valley when he wasnt teaching. I'm sure he works with other senile fricks too so maybe it's just cause the worker populace is so young that it makes it seem like there's a limit.
>my previous programming class in community college had a really old fricking professor who was astounded you could play Pacman on an iPad but worked in Silicon Valley when he wasnt teaching. I'm sure he works with other senile fricks too so maybe it's just cause the worker populace is so young that it makes it seem like there's a limit.
The big real truth is that working for a silicon valley corporation sucks and they get forked a lot of cash even considering the California rent so by the time they're hitting their mid-40s they've got a few million in assets if they didn't frick up badly and can retire, like that chinese guy on youtube who used to be an SSE but quit because he hated it and his wife divorced him and now he just shitposts and scams people with crypto.
There is no age limit for any career, only a "desire to learn" limit.
this fricker had no desire to learn whatsoever. we tried to explain that Pacman is so universal you can play it on like fricking Google and he shut down the conversation to move onto our Scratch assignment.
>this fricker had no desire to learn whatsoever. we tried to explain that Pacman is so universal you can play it on like fricking Google and he shut down the conversation to move onto our Scratch assignment.
You seem to be the one without a desire to learn if you complain about your professor trying to teach you something instead of discussing gaymes.
Also are you guys literally learning Sratch in college? Kek
>my previous programming class in community college had a really old fricking professor who was astounded you could play Pacman on an iPad but worked in Silicon Valley when he wasnt teaching. I'm sure he works with other senile fricks too so maybe it's just cause the worker populace is so young that it makes it seem like there's a limit.
The big real truth is that working for a silicon valley corporation sucks and they get forked a lot of cash even considering the california rent so by the time they're hitting their mid-40s they've got a few million in assets if they didn't frick up badly and can retire, like that chinese guy on youtube who used to be an SSE but quit because he hated it and his wife divorced him and now he just shitposts and scams people with crypto.
There is no age limit for any career, only a "desire to learn" limit.
this fricker had no desire to learn whatsoever. we tried to explain that Pacman is so universal you can play it on like fricking Google and he shut down the conversation to move onto our Scratch assignment.
Porting pacman to a fricking ipad is indian street shitter codemonkey bullshit that people who have real technology jobs don't care about.
Designing great violins doesn't make you a great violin player. Designing great violins requires intelligence, playing it does not.
I am 31 and still taking on new software contracts. It's a relatively small city (250k), and most of the workforce for IT and software is about middle aged.
I started in college at 19. I work now at startups programming at 27. I plan to move to management or staff software before 40. I think 40 is a hard limit for individual contributor work in tech, unless you are some super niche specialist like an embedded C graphics engineer.
I'm 22 now, I started learning Lua aged 9 on Roblox, it started with just editing other people's scripts, but by 12 I could write my own scripts, by 13/14 I was confident in it and began learning Python and other languages.
The game Unturned started development when the dev was 15 and has multiplayer capabilities. He was capable in Lua, JavaScript and C# by then, maybe other languages.
I don't really think there is an age, you could teach a 4 year old Scratch.
I put away programming since i was 14 thought im too old because I saw pajeets my age already do some advanced shit. I also had extreme ADHD and couldnt focus on stuff for longer than 10 minutes, it wore off at age 19 and was the time I could do anything that required attention and focus.
I don't there is an age limit, rather the time and mind you're willing to put into it. It's never too late to learn a new skill, "best time to take action was 20 years ago, second best time is now". Programming is like any skill, there is no age lmit for running a business, some people started at age 50+ and turned their lives around. Programming is the only field where poeple question "Is it too late?" which really is a weird occurance.
IQfy (redditors) will hate me for it, but there was an inspirational story on reddit about a guy who started learning C++ and C# at age 35 or 37, long story within few years he becamse a senior dev.
just stop putting it away for later, you won't learn anything that way.
lots of other major issues stopping people getting in. lots and lots and lots
not gonna tell you what they are..
all these whiners .. no career = sales no career = law even. so funny. you will not get in. ever. none of you. you invest this place with your whining and your nothing opinions.
The brain becoming immutable after 25 is a statistical regression from society broadly educating people to about 20-25 and then sticking them in one job for the rest of their lives
You can literally learn whatever you want and become insanely proficient at nearly any age before physical decay takes hold of your body and mind
Keep going
Programming? No. Programming job? About 55.
>Programming job? About 55.
there is a dude at my company that is like 58 and honestly his brain seems to be "faster" than all the young fellas
you can definitely keep a programming job until retirement if you keep your brain exercised
Yeah, but did he get the job at 58? It's not that you get fired at mandatory requirement age, it's that people stop hiring you because you're too expensive and they'll assume you're probably going to jump ship or retire in a couple of years anyway so there's no point acclimating you to the environment.
Learning? 15.
Job? 35.
>Learning? 15
Proof?
>proof
Its everywhere, just look for it.
Excellent argument.
It was revealed to me in a dream.
Lol
Not really a started at 11 and a buddy of mine at 18, and he's definitely better than I am.
It's akin to learning a language like english, if you don't start early there is a high chance you won't be able to.
>It's akin to learning a language like english
No it's not. In programming symbols are just building blocks. Human languages are completely different and they have a dedicated field of study for them called linguistics.
You can always spot the sub-humans. People who think "programming" is about memorizing the syntax of whatever language they happen to be using. This is why you're being replaced by indians and algorithms. You're not a programmer, you're a filthy coder.
>Learning? 15
bullshit
frick uyo, i am 4 and i konw skratch
For not-getting-banned reasons, I should say I am actually not 4 years old, I know it hits hard, but shit's like that. I am sorry, you can send you complain to
[email protected].
Learning? 5 (because thats the age i started programming and have to cope by setting the upper limit to my age at that time)
Job? 48 (because after 43 years I finally got a job and have to cope because of the reason i sstated above)
Anon, why did it take you 20 years to find a job as a programmer after 20 years of programming?
> 5 after learning programming
> 48 after getting a job
what happened, anon?
yes, usually it is like 80-95 when the dementia hits
imagine living in a country where males live to see their 90th birthday
I'm 44 just learning programming. I have a 135 iq and a successful career behind me, do I have a shot?
no because you left your successful career to peck at buttons all day
But... I already peck at buttons all day
I'm genuinely curious. Why would you do that? Why not just pick it up as a hobby if you already have a successful career? Why become a 44 year old junior making 50k? Makes no fricking sense.
If you had started 10 years earlier, you wouldn't have to put any hard work into learning right now so it's basically pointless to start because you don't want to put in the hard work now and therefore it's too late for you.
Or maybe that's not true, but that's what a lot of people seem to think.
my previous programming class in community college had a really old fricking professor who was astounded you could play Pacman on an iPad but worked in Silicon Valley when he wasnt teaching. I'm sure he works with other senile fricks too so maybe it's just cause the worker populace is so young that it makes it seem like there's a limit.
>my previous programming class in community college had a really old fricking professor who was astounded you could play Pacman on an iPad but worked in Silicon Valley when he wasnt teaching. I'm sure he works with other senile fricks too so maybe it's just cause the worker populace is so young that it makes it seem like there's a limit.
The big real truth is that working for a silicon valley corporation sucks and they get forked a lot of cash even considering the California rent so by the time they're hitting their mid-40s they've got a few million in assets if they didn't frick up badly and can retire, like that chinese guy on youtube who used to be an SSE but quit because he hated it and his wife divorced him and now he just shitposts and scams people with crypto.
There is no age limit for any career, only a "desire to learn" limit.
this fricker had no desire to learn whatsoever. we tried to explain that Pacman is so universal you can play it on like fricking Google and he shut down the conversation to move onto our Scratch assignment.
>this fricker had no desire to learn whatsoever. we tried to explain that Pacman is so universal you can play it on like fricking Google and he shut down the conversation to move onto our Scratch assignment.
You seem to be the one without a desire to learn if you complain about your professor trying to teach you something instead of discussing gaymes.
Also are you guys literally learning Sratch in college? Kek
>There is no age limit for any career, only a "desire to learn" limit.
This should be on everything. Shirts, cups, the back of laptop displays, etc.
Porting pacman to a fricking ipad is indian street shitter codemonkey bullshit that people who have real technology jobs don't care about.
Designing great violins doesn't make you a great violin player. Designing great violins requires intelligence, playing it does not.
>OMG this NASA engineer doesn't even know how to play kerbal space program, what a moron why do we keep him around?
Yes it's -whatever age you currently are- in order to make you feel bad.
no
Elaborate
>itt
It is easier to blame your age than sit down and study.
This, you can learn programming or learn a new language at any age unlike morons like
claim. The real problem is most people can't be bothered to study anything seriously after a certain age.
i hate lazy people so much its unreal
yes, but not for learning english
I am 31 and still taking on new software contracts. It's a relatively small city (250k), and most of the workforce for IT and software is about middle aged.
I started in college at 19. I work now at startups programming at 27. I plan to move to management or staff software before 40. I think 40 is a hard limit for individual contributor work in tech, unless you are some super niche specialist like an embedded C graphics engineer.
Good luck!
ask donald knuth
I'm 22 now, I started learning Lua aged 9 on Roblox, it started with just editing other people's scripts, but by 12 I could write my own scripts, by 13/14 I was confident in it and began learning Python and other languages.
The game Unturned started development when the dev was 15 and has multiplayer capabilities. He was capable in Lua, JavaScript and C# by then, maybe other languages.
I don't really think there is an age, you could teach a 4 year old Scratch.
yeah, unsigned ints can go up to 4,294,967,295, but I don't know anyone that old
I put away programming since i was 14 thought im too old because I saw pajeets my age already do some advanced shit. I also had extreme ADHD and couldnt focus on stuff for longer than 10 minutes, it wore off at age 19 and was the time I could do anything that required attention and focus.
I don't there is an age limit, rather the time and mind you're willing to put into it. It's never too late to learn a new skill, "best time to take action was 20 years ago, second best time is now". Programming is like any skill, there is no age lmit for running a business, some people started at age 50+ and turned their lives around. Programming is the only field where poeple question "Is it too late?" which really is a weird occurance.
IQfy (redditors) will hate me for it, but there was an inspirational story on reddit about a guy who started learning C++ and C# at age 35 or 37, long story within few years he becamse a senior dev.
just stop putting it away for later, you won't learn anything that way.
lots of other major issues stopping people getting in. lots and lots and lots
not gonna tell you what they are..
all these whiners .. no career = sales no career = law even. so funny. you will not get in. ever. none of you. you invest this place with your whining and your nothing opinions.
yes, over 30 you're deprecated and should do something else
The brain becoming immutable after 25 is a statistical regression from society broadly educating people to about 20-25 and then sticking them in one job for the rest of their lives
You can literally learn whatever you want and become insanely proficient at nearly any age before physical decay takes hold of your body and mind
Keep going