We actually consider it an insult to feed your guests and friends. The message is that you have no money for food yourself and need the host to feed you. It's fricked up. Down south they invite you in and treat you to a meal like family but its all just cold here.
You know, if someone thinks that getting food from their host is a sign that they're poor, it means that they think that others would think so and that they would think so themselves.
And since such a sentiment is absent in the south, it can't be included in the definition of human nature and it means that it's a cultural thing.
Now, climate has a crucial role in the shaping of cultures (see the works of Kant and Hegel), and harsh climate and therefore harsh living conditions of the Germanic urheimat and current geographical is clearly a very good answer. Less food = less hospitality.
However, religion also plays a big role in a society's cultural life and the prevalence of Catholicism vs Protestantism aligns with the colours on the map well enough for this thread to have 30 replies.
Now, Catholicism has something called ,,salvation by deeds", which of course encourages hospitality, while the Protestants have either ,,salvation by faith alone" (Lutherans), which doesn't require hospitality, and ,,predestination" (Calvinists), which is kinda shit in this case.
And while I'm not saying that the lack of hospitality is caused directly by the different confessions, I suppose that the different confessions are caused by the lack of hospitality and uphold what is wrong.
Finally, the proportions of religious and natural causes of hospitality in different zones is left as an exercise to the reader.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I meant Montesqieu (The Spirit of the Laws, see alcohol prohibition) and Hegel (something about history, see the end of the book or that meme about racism, Hegel and IQ curves).
I will agree though that Germanic anti-semitism is much more sound and respectable than Catholic and Orthocuck anti-semitism.
Germanic Protestants >jews are an alien ethnic group that compete with us for power and wealth and for this reason we oppose them
Catholic and Orthoshits: >the heckin israelites killed our heckin lord! they are demons who sacrifice children in vile satanic rites and drink blood! but we must do nothing to oppose them because that would be make us equally bad.
>much more sound and respectable
He means it more vile, based on pure base materialism while others based it on irrational feelings. The fact you can give mathematic proof for genocide dosen't mean you are better. It just says you have no empathy and are a lesser human for it.
The Inquisition only had power over Christians. The only israelites hurt by them were lying Conversos who claimed they converted to Christ and then kept being israeli in secret so they wouldn't be exiled from the kingdom.
>but we must do nothing to oppose them because that would be make us equally bad.
Spain wins its civil war against judeo bolshevists...
Italy creates an entire ideological framework based in part in oppoaition to israelites...
Portugal fights alone against commies (israelite ideology) in Africa for decades and only loses after almost the entire world is against it...
Latin American catholics kill thousands of commies and are only stopped in the 80s by US WASP elitism that feels bad about their israelite minions getting free heli rides....
Even non whites in Asia and Africa go against zionist interest and they get war declared immediately by protestant europeans with no mercy given (Japan, Lybia, Syria, Iran, Egypt, etc...)
Even other protestantrs get tired of commie israelites and are universally condemned by their peers such as Rohdesia and South Africa...
Small minded, selfish, intolerant, obsessed by rules, judgmental for the germans from my experience.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pharisees aren't just people with petty characteristics you dislike. They distinguished themselves by their emphasis on holier than thou attitude, obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies, and of course legalism.
There's a reason israelites and Catholics both dominate the US legal system today and it's because their religious traditions resemble each other much more than Protestants do either. israelites and Catholics both obsess over outwardly appearance, like praying the rosary over and over, sacrificing chickens or theatrically waving crosses around in public. It's religion of appearance rather than genuine faith. They both
2 years ago
Anonymous
>holier than thou attitude, obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies, and of course legalism.
You literally described germans. my man
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not at all. Just asserting that Germans are le bad doesn't make it so.
The opposite is in fact true. Germanics are notoriously egalitarian compared to other Europeans. They clearly don't value tradition and rituals very much as is evident by their modernistic cultures. And we've already covered how legalism is a Judeo-Catholic area of expertise.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>holier than thou attitude
krauts went from "we are racially superior to you all" to "we are morally superior to you all" so they indeed have this attitude
>obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies
You are deluded if you don't realize just how autistic about rules, ritualistic behaviours and hierarchy krauts are. Only some other cultures like the nips are even worse than them
>legalism
Come on, Germany is a goddamn bureaucratic legalist wet-dream
2 years ago
Anonymous
>krauts went from "we are racially superior to you all" to "we are morally superior to you all" so they indeed have this attitude
You're talking about what here? Less than a century.
Also the topic is religion. You need to look no further than this board to see the attitude of Protestants vs Catholics. Only one of these believes themselves morally superior simply by virtue of being members of a club, or having more costly club houses.
>You are deluded if you don't realize just how autistic about rules, ritualistic behaviours and hierarchy krauts are. Only some other cultures like the nips are even worse than them
I don't even know what to tell you. Are you completely unaware of how the Reformation got rid of the ritualism of Roman Catholicism? Did you pass even elementary school history class?
>Come on, Germany is a goddamn bureaucratic legalist wet-dream
Maybe it would help if you actually knew what the terms being discussed meant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(theology)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Only one of these believes themselves morally superior simply by virtue of being members of a club, or having more costly club houses.
lol, lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Where is he wrong? The e-caths here endlessly seethe about prots just look at the OP
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Also the topic is religion.
I am talking about evident cultural idiosyncrasies, i don't care about your moronic perspectives on the cath-prot debate. >in before the comparison was with the pharisees
It's called an analogy, you autistic germoid
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>in before the comparison was with the pharisees >It's called an analogy, you autistic germoid
And your analogy was dogshit because, as I've proven, you don't even understand what constituted Pharisaical behaviour. It's just a word you wanted to throw around to draw some flimsy connection between israelites and Germans.
As for the the whole Prots/germanics are cheap debate. It likely has its basis in said culture's veneration of the nuclear family as the fundamental community of society, as opposed to the extended family or clans that are more common outside western Europe. This as well as strong presence of Prussian virtues still, specifically austerity and order.
Now please, do go and say 12 hail marys, pray the rosary 8 times and confess your sins to your priest so that your bruised ego and sense of superiority recovers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies, and of course legalism.
Literally the Germans >by their emphasis on holier than thou attitude,
Literally the Germans when you are a foreigner
well, too be fair, by the time its 1945 (fourty fifth)
i too, wouldnt want to be badgered by some helpless soldiers who still think theres a war to fight
>Let me tell you how do feed (ie. foster) your kids.
If you allow strangers to feed your kids without your knowledge, you've became one with cuckoldry to the point you go out of your way to get cucked.
Sharing a meal is a family activity. The assumption is that the parents want the kid to come home in the evening to have a communal meal. Germanics care about their children and don’t just leave them with friends or neighbors for the entire day randomly. It would be scandalous to have them just hang around with other families like they aren’t able to feed the child themselves. So it really has nothing to do with inhospitable behavior. During sleepovers of course the guest gets the same food as the host. But usually the assumption is that the families come together to share a meal. And that is one of these subtle cultural things that implicatly gets understood by everyone of that culture.
not sure why everyone itt is assuming this is accurate
im scandinavian and its completely inaccurate for denmark and norway, the chance of not recieving any food at all is next to none although there is an offchance you wont be offered dinner
sweden is worse when it comes to dinner but i doubt they would refuse to offer you a sandwhich if youre hungry
unsure about spurdos but this map seems to be sourced from making it up
Sharing a meal is a family activity. The assumption is that the parents want the kid to come home in the evening to have a communal meal. Germanics care about their children and don’t just leave them with friends or neighbors for the entire day randomly. It would be scandalous to have them just hang around with other families like they aren’t able to feed the child themselves. So it really has nothing to do with inhospitable behavior. During sleepovers of course the guest gets the same food as the host. But usually the assumption is that the families come together to share a meal. And that is one of these subtle cultural things that implicatly gets understood by everyone of that culture.
German here, holy FRICK, you're so right. I remember that back when i was a child, I was at a friend's home and they were having dinner. Naturally I also wanted some food and my friedn's mom half-heartedly also gave me some food. Later she straight up asked me wheter I had no fricking food at home, as if I was a goddamn hobo. However Italians and Arabs will adopt you like family and will be vivibly disappointed if you don't stay for dinner
What a moronic way to think. You think your subhuman culture is logical, whereas it is simply rigidity at its finest, just like the women or the little intellectuals that try their self into thinking.
Now, I want you to rationalise why men have no right to hunt, while women are vapid prostitutes all wearing tongs.
I don't think some kid bringing over the neighbors kid to play after school gives them the status of a guest as such, it's just the neighbors kid coming over for the fourth time this week.
When I grew up in Norway we would always go to each others houses after school, but there was always some set time that the Norwegians eat dinner by which everybody had to be home, and not coming home for dinner would require a special call and permission, saying that I always felt welcome eating dinner with my friends families, and often did.
I'm pretty sure that in all of Scandinavia any actual guest would always be offered food.
I'm from northern germany and always got invited ti eat when I was at friends houses as a child, only exeption being the one ottoman I was friends with
Really makes one think, bad graphic
Northern Hospitality works differently, for example just look at the future King of Norway. I feel like its historic enough. This guy is like a homie Rasputin. >https://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/royals/royals/norwegen-prinzessin-maertha-louise-stundenlanger-sex-mit-ihrem-schamanen-65427938.bild.html >Princess Martha Louise (48) partner - the so called shaman Durek Verrett (44) - has talked about their sex life. Via podcast he informed the baffled public that he likes to have sex 3-4 times a day. But no quickies. The whole thing could last very long. >"Sometimes we have sex 3-4 times per day and my girlfriend always says, don't you want to cum? and I just say: Nah, I can give you as many orgasms as you like we can do this for hours, I don't need to come." After the he stretches and meditates. He also says that he has trained for years not hold back ejaculation because he wants his partners as happy as possible. "But there are times when I constantly cum like crazy. I'm very extreme. >Her ex commited suicide
She's a self described medium. She's nothing more than a moron. Royals like these need to be driven from the continent. If they wish to shit all over their culture then let them do it from elsewhere.
You guys are strange. I'm telling you it's literally rude to show up at someones home without a gift of food to offer to the host. If you happen to be there when a meal is prepared, you would be rude to refuse to share it. You should be deferential to the host, and offer to help prepare the meal, and to clean up afterwards. That is tradition in my culture, from one of the red areas in the OP.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We are talking about guests you invited in not randoms that knock on your door and make you feel socially pressured into letting in you ESL. Browns do not have a monopoly over hospitality and nothing about letting your guests go hungry is civilized. If you live in a first world country like me, how come these poor shitskins can afford to do what you can't? My friend invited me over and treated me to a meal last week and I did the same for him yesterday. It's a mutual thing because we treat eachother like family and with hospitality, it's not a hard concept to grasp.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What I described only applies to invited guests. Uninvited guests aren't invited through the door.
If we're having dinner, we ask if the guest wants to join. We dont force food on them like they do in other more "hospitable cultures" we're you're served shit food you dont want but you have to eat to not seem rude.
I can only speak for scandinavia, but we usually asume you have eaten or going to eat when you get home. Food is not seen as some luxury you show off to guests. We asume everyone have plenty of food.
>We dont force food on them like they do in other more "hospitable cultures" we're you're served shit food you dont want but you have to eat to not seem rude.
In Southern Europe, people will always serve their guests the best food they have available. If you don't want to eat you can always decline respectfully. >Food is not seen as some luxury you show off to guests. We asume everyone have plenty of food.
Food isn't a luxury in Southern Europe. Serving food to your guests is just a sign of hospitality.
You are meant to treat the guest like a family member, this is what nordoids don't get. If you tell your guest to wait in a room quietly while you go eat something you make the guest feel like an unwelcomed stranger.
The point is not so much that you *have* to feed every guest in your home, but rather that if you are going to eat something while a guest is with you, you should always offer them food too.
>You are meant to treat the guest like a family member
What a fricking moronic notion, you give food to your plumber as well?
Again, if we're having food, you're more than welcome to join us, but we're not going to force food on you by having a fricking banquet in your honor and guilt trip you into eating food you dont want.
If you're hungry, you can have some food.
Need to take a shit, there's the toilet.
Feel clammy on a hot day? there's the shower and heres a fresh towel.
Sleepy? Take 20 on the couch.
What we dont do is force hospitality on you and put you in a position where you have to make an ass of yourself by saying no to the 5 pounds of fried chicken mum stood 2 hours in the kitchen making because Billy is having his friend over for a couple of hours who happens to be vegan.
just how fricking hard is it for you to comprehend that?
Yes actually, my plumber came to fix my boiler a week ago and after he finished I served him some sandwiches, beer and baklava. You nordics really are heartless autists.
You are perfectly aware to be inferior with your shitty culture, your shitty feminist women. >Be Nord Cucks >Can't even flirts with women
2 years ago
Anonymous
your pushin it now buddy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Germanics are pussies
2 years ago
Anonymous
[...]
oh i am fuming
You do not understand basic notions of hospitality and sociability. Offering food is a requirement when yourself is having food. When you invite someone, the least you can do is to treat him on an equal foot. And its means if you allow your self to eat, you give him eating too.
You are also responsible of him, and you have to make sure he is feeling well in your home. You are his servitor for this aspect.
So that's not only a technical question as you were playing the Sims managing his amount of Hunger, Hygiene or "Small needs" ...
2 years ago
Anonymous
maybe it is that inviting strangers; non family members to your home is a relatively new concept for g*rmanics, while for people who enjoyed higher civilization for longer (meds, arabs) it has been the norm for thousands of years to share your luxury with visitors.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I lived in Scandinavia during a few months, these "people" are fricking barbarians
Adults let other adults know when they arrive so dinner isn't done when they're around. Kids can appear, then vanish for a few hours, appear again for 30 minutes, only to vanish again.
You don't have to prepare a full meal everytime somebody steps in your home, but having dinner while your guest waits in your room is inhuman, even if you didn't specifically invite your guest for dinner. Either wait for the guest to leave on their own and then have dinner or invite them to eat.
this map correlates closer to germanics then to protestants(see catholic belgium, france, austria, switserland, also anglosaxon britain vs celtic scotland and ireland, also the more germanic north of italy)
I imagine it's quite the opposite in the USA. The South (overwhelmingly Protestant) is all about food. This is a cultural thing, not a religious thing.
Protestants are notoriously stingy while catholics can't budget and spend too much.
You can even see it at the state level, compare italian and spanish debt to german or sweden.
Only countries that challenge this are meme countries for tax evasion like Luxembourg and Ireland.
Dumb post
Spain and Italy had a much better debt situation when they were much more catholic. Theres no correlation whatsoever, if anything theres a stronger inverse correlation lmao
Debt has inflated everywhere but it's much higher in historically european protestant countries than catholic ones.
The dichotomy was the most obvious during the Renaissance in France, the moment they exiled the huguenots (who saved and invested much more than the catholic bourgeoisie and nobility who tended to just spend) they lost heavily economically while the countries that welcomed them (England, the Netherlands and what would become Prussia) took off.
>France lost heavily economically during the Renaissance
???
That literally never happened
Sounds like youre grasping at straws to support a nonsensical argument
>Only countries that challenge this are meme countries for tax evasion like Luxembourg and Ireland.
Ireland was a poor country for most of its history of independence and the tax-evasion wealth is recent. Even when it was poor it was fiscally frugal. The Irish are an anomalous people with a mix of med and nord traits.
have you moronic mutts and Black folk really never heard about the custom of bringing a dish of some sort of food as a gift when visiting someone? The degenerated version of this custom is the practice of bringing wine, or a 6 pack of beer to share with the host.
And for the love of god, offer to wash the fricking dishes, clear the table, and to help make the meal you selfish lazy c**ts.
You're not supposed to expect a payment in return if you invite someone filthy israelite
2 years ago
Anonymous
its not a payment. It's like bringing flowers to a sick person. If you cant comply with the social convention due to your poverty then no one will make you feel bad about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is a payment if you waiting for something in return filthy israelite
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's like bringing flowers to a sick person. If you cant comply with the social convention due to your poverty then no one will make you feel bad about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's like bringing flowers to a sick person.
kek, you are so stupid. You're a mongolian. When you're an host, you are the servitors of your guests, it works like that. So you finally realize you've been living in a mongolian culture since the beginning of your life?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>When you're an host, you are the servitors of your guests
maybe in your Black and mutt cultures
2 years ago
Anonymous
You have no culture barbarian
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You have no culture barbarian
or maybe we invented it
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2 years ago
Anonymous
>epiphameus of salamis states... >source: his ass
2 years ago
Anonymous
kek
Even today, the Rhine shows a distinction between civilization and barbarics Germans
thats common in Spain, but its never a full on dish. Mostly a bottle of wine or something you can snack on before the actual meal. And it is absolutely not obligatory, just a sign of good will on the guest's part. You wont be ostracized if you bring nothing.
In Northern Europe when a guest comes over I'm usually not eating and they usually aren't either, if I'm having dinner and a guest comes over of course I'll offer them food. If you visit a Southern European, they are usually in the middle of 3rd breakfast/5th lunch/20th siesta and bust scoffing down food from a trough so its customary to join them eating.
It's mostly just when your kid's friend visit unanounced that they don't get food, and it's mostly out of reapect for the other kids parents since the hosts parents assumes that the other kids family is cooking a meal for him at home
The courteous thing is to not serve food if it isn't specifically an occasion for a meal.
How many times have you been forced to stomach some italian friend's godawful 'cooking' because you happened to step into their house and they won't shut the frick up unless you eat something?
If I didn't specifically invite you over for a meal, rest assured I will not force you to have one.
Its unbelievable that having lived in civilization for almost a milennia thats germanics and nordics still do not understand it. They then go on to make threads laughing at subsaharans when, socially, theyre on the same level.
I thought this map was a meme but reading some of these butthurt posters trying to defend it has really opened my eyes.
In Ireland youll get thea and biscuits at all times, drinks in the evening and obviously dinner.
Didnt know about Germans being like that, always thought them hospitable.
The US is dominated by Protestantism and the host providing food for a guest is a widespread expectation. It might just be nordic autism. I doubt the accuracy of that map though
Lower tolerance for couch surfing.
They had less resources to spare
The infograph that broke Scandinavia.
Why are nordics so inhospitable?
We actually consider it an insult to feed your guests and friends. The message is that you have no money for food yourself and need the host to feed you. It's fricked up. Down south they invite you in and treat you to a meal like family but its all just cold here.
Autism
You know, if someone thinks that getting food from their host is a sign that they're poor, it means that they think that others would think so and that they would think so themselves.
And since such a sentiment is absent in the south, it can't be included in the definition of human nature and it means that it's a cultural thing.
Now, climate has a crucial role in the shaping of cultures (see the works of Kant and Hegel), and harsh climate and therefore harsh living conditions of the Germanic urheimat and current geographical is clearly a very good answer. Less food = less hospitality.
However, religion also plays a big role in a society's cultural life and the prevalence of Catholicism vs Protestantism aligns with the colours on the map well enough for this thread to have 30 replies.
Now, Catholicism has something called ,,salvation by deeds", which of course encourages hospitality, while the Protestants have either ,,salvation by faith alone" (Lutherans), which doesn't require hospitality, and ,,predestination" (Calvinists), which is kinda shit in this case.
And while I'm not saying that the lack of hospitality is caused directly by the different confessions, I suppose that the different confessions are caused by the lack of hospitality and uphold what is wrong.
Finally, the proportions of religious and natural causes of hospitality in different zones is left as an exercise to the reader.
I meant Montesqieu (The Spirit of the Laws, see alcohol prohibition) and Hegel (something about history, see the end of the book or that meme about racism, Hegel and IQ curves).
When Scandinavians invite someone to dinner ther really do it, you have to dress nice and everything has to be perfect. It's their social autism
Balkans once again proving they are the superior race
Autism
Every time
Does destroying the current European people mean destroying Europe as a whole? Is Europe just its current people?
Lmao what a fricking crock of shit.
I will agree though that Germanic anti-semitism is much more sound and respectable than Catholic and Orthocuck anti-semitism.
Germanic Protestants
>jews are an alien ethnic group that compete with us for power and wealth and for this reason we oppose them
Catholic and Orthoshits:
>the heckin israelites killed our heckin lord! they are demons who sacrifice children in vile satanic rites and drink blood! but we must do nothing to oppose them because that would be make us equally bad.
>much more sound and respectable
He means it more vile, based on pure base materialism while others based it on irrational feelings. The fact you can give mathematic proof for genocide dosen't mean you are better. It just says you have no empathy and are a lesser human for it.
Learn to read dumbass, he said precsisely the opposite
>but we must do nothing to oppose them
>what is the Inquisition
The Inquisition only had power over Christians. The only israelites hurt by them were lying Conversos who claimed they converted to Christ and then kept being israeli in secret so they wouldn't be exiled from the kingdom.
>but we must do nothing to oppose them because that would be make us equally bad.
Spain wins its civil war against judeo bolshevists...
Italy creates an entire ideological framework based in part in oppoaition to israelites...
Portugal fights alone against commies (israelite ideology) in Africa for decades and only loses after almost the entire world is against it...
Latin American catholics kill thousands of commies and are only stopped in the 80s by US WASP elitism that feels bad about their israelite minions getting free heli rides....
Even non whites in Asia and Africa go against zionist interest and they get war declared immediately by protestant europeans with no mercy given (Japan, Lybia, Syria, Iran, Egypt, etc...)
Even other protestantrs get tired of commie israelites and are universally condemned by their peers such as Rohdesia and South Africa...
source please
source
kek
unmeasurably based
how will g*rms ever recover?
>Is there a historical reason for protestants being bad hosts?
Damn, is this true? I took a flatshare in the red part, in Germany and it was awful.
From my experience with them, I concluded they are literally Pharisees in their way of thinking.
Describe the Pharisee way of thinking and then relate it to how Germans think.
Small minded, selfish, intolerant, obsessed by rules, judgmental for the germans from my experience.
Pharisees aren't just people with petty characteristics you dislike. They distinguished themselves by their emphasis on holier than thou attitude, obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies, and of course legalism.
There's a reason israelites and Catholics both dominate the US legal system today and it's because their religious traditions resemble each other much more than Protestants do either. israelites and Catholics both obsess over outwardly appearance, like praying the rosary over and over, sacrificing chickens or theatrically waving crosses around in public. It's religion of appearance rather than genuine faith. They both
>holier than thou attitude, obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies, and of course legalism.
You literally described germans. my man
Not at all. Just asserting that Germans are le bad doesn't make it so.
The opposite is in fact true. Germanics are notoriously egalitarian compared to other Europeans. They clearly don't value tradition and rituals very much as is evident by their modernistic cultures. And we've already covered how legalism is a Judeo-Catholic area of expertise.
>holier than thou attitude
krauts went from "we are racially superior to you all" to "we are morally superior to you all" so they indeed have this attitude
>obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies
You are deluded if you don't realize just how autistic about rules, ritualistic behaviours and hierarchy krauts are. Only some other cultures like the nips are even worse than them
>legalism
Come on, Germany is a goddamn bureaucratic legalist wet-dream
>krauts went from "we are racially superior to you all" to "we are morally superior to you all" so they indeed have this attitude
You're talking about what here? Less than a century.
Also the topic is religion. You need to look no further than this board to see the attitude of Protestants vs Catholics. Only one of these believes themselves morally superior simply by virtue of being members of a club, or having more costly club houses.
>You are deluded if you don't realize just how autistic about rules, ritualistic behaviours and hierarchy krauts are. Only some other cultures like the nips are even worse than them
I don't even know what to tell you. Are you completely unaware of how the Reformation got rid of the ritualism of Roman Catholicism? Did you pass even elementary school history class?
>Come on, Germany is a goddamn bureaucratic legalist wet-dream
Maybe it would help if you actually knew what the terms being discussed meant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(theology)
>Only one of these believes themselves morally superior simply by virtue of being members of a club, or having more costly club houses.
lol, lmao
Where is he wrong? The e-caths here endlessly seethe about prots just look at the OP
>Also the topic is religion.
I am talking about evident cultural idiosyncrasies, i don't care about your moronic perspectives on the cath-prot debate.
>in before the comparison was with the pharisees
It's called an analogy, you autistic germoid
>>in before the comparison was with the pharisees
>It's called an analogy, you autistic germoid
And your analogy was dogshit because, as I've proven, you don't even understand what constituted Pharisaical behaviour. It's just a word you wanted to throw around to draw some flimsy connection between israelites and Germans.
As for the the whole Prots/germanics are cheap debate. It likely has its basis in said culture's veneration of the nuclear family as the fundamental community of society, as opposed to the extended family or clans that are more common outside western Europe. This as well as strong presence of Prussian virtues still, specifically austerity and order.
Now please, do go and say 12 hail marys, pray the rosary 8 times and confess your sins to your priest so that your bruised ego and sense of superiority recovers.
>obsession with man made ritual, traditions and hierarchies, and of course legalism.
Literally the Germans
>by their emphasis on holier than thou attitude,
Literally the Germans when you are a foreigner
Wow someone finally said it out loud.
well, too be fair, by the time its 1945 (fourty fifth)
i too, wouldnt want to be badgered by some helpless soldiers who still think theres a war to fight
How did he possibly get that from positive Christianity
Moreover what's the connection between positive Christianity and protestantism specifically?
There's not one. Protestants aren't usually Supersessionist Gnostics
Frick off, Dirk.
Spoonfeed me please!
not reading that
its almost like race isnt just skin-deep damn
If they look the same, they ARE the same. Imbecile.
Taleb is retarted
Abos look a lot like nigs but they are genetically closer to chinks
these people in your pic are not the same race
This is the best excerpt from any work I've ever read in the entirety of IQfy. Sauce?
It's not autism, it's OCPD.
truth.
holy based!
Too redpilled for IQfykiddies.
Easily the most redpilled thing I have seen since I began browsing this board
Ireland being blue makes sense but the Scots (the most notoriously stingy people in the world) being blue as well makes me doubt the map.
The most famous piece of Scottish pop culture, trainspotting, is about betraying your friends for a few hundred quid.
is hosting 2 million somalis not enough? they can use their welfare checks to buy their own food
Is there a historical reason for catholics being lazy, deceiving and corrupt?
They interpret the Adam and Eve story, where God punishes them by having them to work to survive, as work = bad.
Protestants changed that mentality.
i giggled anon, i will tikkie you 0.2 euros for your post
shouldn't you be the one paying OP? Bit unfair that you don't pay him for making you laugh
>Let me tell you how do feed (ie. foster) your kids.
If you allow strangers to feed your kids without your knowledge, you've became one with cuckoldry to the point you go out of your way to get cucked.
Take your fricking meds
Inhuman
From my experience it's normal to receive food as a guest in Finland, both as child and adult.
Germanic-nordic autism. Protestant work ethic and their natural autism makes them suspicious of strangers
Why are they so insecure?
That's Varg responding.
both sides are so stupid
But Scots are Protestant
But they're Celtic and not white.
America never had a problem with the Scots or regarded them as undesirable. They were considered true Britons unlike the Irish.
The Highlanders were Catholic; the lowlanders intermarried with the English to the point where they're ethnically indistinguishable.
not sure why everyone itt is assuming this is accurate
im scandinavian and its completely inaccurate for denmark and norway, the chance of not recieving any food at all is next to none although there is an offchance you wont be offered dinner
sweden is worse when it comes to dinner but i doubt they would refuse to offer you a sandwhich if youre hungry
unsure about spurdos but this map seems to be sourced from making it up
subhuman culture
Germanics are subhumans
Scots are the winners of the north. Not getting food for guests is moronic behavior
Sharing a meal is a family activity. The assumption is that the parents want the kid to come home in the evening to have a communal meal. Germanics care about their children and don’t just leave them with friends or neighbors for the entire day randomly. It would be scandalous to have them just hang around with other families like they aren’t able to feed the child themselves. So it really has nothing to do with inhospitable behavior. During sleepovers of course the guest gets the same food as the host. But usually the assumption is that the families come together to share a meal. And that is one of these subtle cultural things that implicatly gets understood by everyone of that culture.
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German here, holy FRICK, you're so right. I remember that back when i was a child, I was at a friend's home and they were having dinner. Naturally I also wanted some food and my friedn's mom half-heartedly also gave me some food. Later she straight up asked me wheter I had no fricking food at home, as if I was a goddamn hobo. However Italians and Arabs will adopt you like family and will be vivibly disappointed if you don't stay for dinner
I can confirm that this is correct, I'm norwegian
Norwegian here. It's this.
What a moronic way to think. You think your subhuman culture is logical, whereas it is simply rigidity at its finest, just like the women or the little intellectuals that try their self into thinking.
Now, I want you to rationalise why men have no right to hunt, while women are vapid prostitutes all wearing tongs.
I don't think some kid bringing over the neighbors kid to play after school gives them the status of a guest as such, it's just the neighbors kid coming over for the fourth time this week.
When I grew up in Norway we would always go to each others houses after school, but there was always some set time that the Norwegians eat dinner by which everybody had to be home, and not coming home for dinner would require a special call and permission, saying that I always felt welcome eating dinner with my friends families, and often did.
I'm pretty sure that in all of Scandinavia any actual guest would always be offered food.
hospitality is too pagan of an idea for protestants
You thought the Swedish money-grubbing game dev and Dutch tulip merchant race would be anything but a race of buttholes? It's kind of to be expected.
Mandela effect, Iceland used to be farther North.
I'm from northern germany and always got invited ti eat when I was at friends houses as a child, only exeption being the one ottoman I was friends with
Really makes one think, bad graphic
>graph bad because anecdotal evidence
Why are krauts like this?
Northern Hospitality works differently, for example just look at the future King of Norway. I feel like its historic enough. This guy is like a homie Rasputin.
>https://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/royals/royals/norwegen-prinzessin-maertha-louise-stundenlanger-sex-mit-ihrem-schamanen-65427938.bild.html
>Princess Martha Louise (48) partner - the so called shaman Durek Verrett (44) - has talked about their sex life. Via podcast he informed the baffled public that he likes to have sex 3-4 times a day. But no quickies. The whole thing could last very long.
>"Sometimes we have sex 3-4 times per day and my girlfriend always says, don't you want to cum? and I just say: Nah, I can give you as many orgasms as you like we can do this for hours, I don't need to come." After the he stretches and meditates. He also says that he has trained for years not hold back ejaculation because he wants his partners as happy as possible. "But there are times when I constantly cum like crazy. I'm very extreme.
>Her ex commited suicide
the chance of being offered food is inversely proportional to the chance of being offered the host's daughter
reminder this woman could have been the next queen if the laws had changed before she was born
She's a self described medium. She's nothing more than a moron. Royals like these need to be driven from the continent. If they wish to shit all over their culture then let them do it from elsewhere.
Guests are supposed to bring a gift of food to the host. Non-whites have weird cultures.
Kek you people are warped
>shows up at someone's home
>expects to be fed and treated like royalty
why are non-whites like this?
Brehon Laws. Christian Laws.
You guys are strange. I'm telling you it's literally rude to show up at someones home without a gift of food to offer to the host. If you happen to be there when a meal is prepared, you would be rude to refuse to share it. You should be deferential to the host, and offer to help prepare the meal, and to clean up afterwards. That is tradition in my culture, from one of the red areas in the OP.
We are talking about guests you invited in not randoms that knock on your door and make you feel socially pressured into letting in you ESL. Browns do not have a monopoly over hospitality and nothing about letting your guests go hungry is civilized. If you live in a first world country like me, how come these poor shitskins can afford to do what you can't? My friend invited me over and treated me to a meal last week and I did the same for him yesterday. It's a mutual thing because we treat eachother like family and with hospitality, it's not a hard concept to grasp.
What I described only applies to invited guests. Uninvited guests aren't invited through the door.
KEK treating someone to a meal is "royalty" by your standards? No there's nothing culturally "white" about being a poor stingy b***h.
#justGermanthings
>NOOOO HOW COME I DON'T GET GIBS FOR VISITING YOU
imagine arguing so much over a made-up map
never change, IQfy
this board is just IQfy without flags 2bh
If we're having dinner, we ask if the guest wants to join. We dont force food on them like they do in other more "hospitable cultures" we're you're served shit food you dont want but you have to eat to not seem rude.
I can only speak for scandinavia, but we usually asume you have eaten or going to eat when you get home. Food is not seen as some luxury you show off to guests. We asume everyone have plenty of food.
>We dont force food on them like they do in other more "hospitable cultures" we're you're served shit food you dont want but you have to eat to not seem rude.
In Southern Europe, people will always serve their guests the best food they have available. If you don't want to eat you can always decline respectfully.
>Food is not seen as some luxury you show off to guests. We asume everyone have plenty of food.
Food isn't a luxury in Southern Europe. Serving food to your guests is just a sign of hospitality.
You are meant to treat the guest like a family member, this is what nordoids don't get. If you tell your guest to wait in a room quietly while you go eat something you make the guest feel like an unwelcomed stranger.
The point is not so much that you *have* to feed every guest in your home, but rather that if you are going to eat something while a guest is with you, you should always offer them food too.
>You are meant to treat the guest like a family member
What a fricking moronic notion, you give food to your plumber as well?
Again, if we're having food, you're more than welcome to join us, but we're not going to force food on you by having a fricking banquet in your honor and guilt trip you into eating food you dont want.
If you're hungry, you can have some food.
Need to take a shit, there's the toilet.
Feel clammy on a hot day? there's the shower and heres a fresh towel.
Sleepy? Take 20 on the couch.
What we dont do is force hospitality on you and put you in a position where you have to make an ass of yourself by saying no to the 5 pounds of fried chicken mum stood 2 hours in the kitchen making because Billy is having his friend over for a couple of hours who happens to be vegan.
just how fricking hard is it for you to comprehend that?
what a moronic mentality.
>Nords have no sense of culture and ethos regarding guests
Just say you're soulless
>Nords have no sense of culture and ethos regarding guests
nothing wrong with that
>you give food to your plumber as well?
Yes actually, my plumber came to fix my boiler a week ago and after he finished I served him some sandwiches, beer and baklava. You nordics really are heartless autists.
>you give food to your plumber as well?
lmao, is this meant to be a gotcha? yes, you at least offer him a drink
Frick off scandinavian, you're barbaric. We don't want to hear your opinion on the question.
oh i am fuming
You are perfectly aware to be inferior with your shitty culture, your shitty feminist women.
>Be Nord Cucks
>Can't even flirts with women
your pushin it now buddy
Germanics are pussies
You do not understand basic notions of hospitality and sociability. Offering food is a requirement when yourself is having food. When you invite someone, the least you can do is to treat him on an equal foot. And its means if you allow your self to eat, you give him eating too.
You are also responsible of him, and you have to make sure he is feeling well in your home. You are his servitor for this aspect.
So that's not only a technical question as you were playing the Sims managing his amount of Hunger, Hygiene or "Small needs" ...
maybe it is that inviting strangers; non family members to your home is a relatively new concept for g*rmanics, while for people who enjoyed higher civilization for longer (meds, arabs) it has been the norm for thousands of years to share your luxury with visitors.
I lived in Scandinavia during a few months, these "people" are fricking barbarians
So do you go to dinner and eat while your guess just stand there waiting for you to finish?
Just asking it just sounds weird to me that someone would just eat and not offer even a snack or anything.
this is really only a problem for children.
Adults let other adults know when they arrive so dinner isn't done when they're around. Kids can appear, then vanish for a few hours, appear again for 30 minutes, only to vanish again.
Most cultures don’t have to adapt for migrant rape gangs snatching kids, but you do you Sven.
You don't have to prepare a full meal everytime somebody steps in your home, but having dinner while your guest waits in your room is inhuman, even if you didn't specifically invite your guest for dinner. Either wait for the guest to leave on their own and then have dinner or invite them to eat.
this map correlates closer to germanics then to protestants(see catholic belgium, france, austria, switserland, also anglosaxon britain vs celtic scotland and ireland, also the more germanic north of italy)
I imagine it's quite the opposite in the USA. The South (overwhelmingly Protestant) is all about food. This is a cultural thing, not a religious thing.
And Culture isn't related to religion?
The american south was influenced by french and latino culture at a much greater extent than the north which remained much more anglo-saxons.
Protestants are notoriously stingy while catholics can't budget and spend too much.
You can even see it at the state level, compare italian and spanish debt to german or sweden.
Only countries that challenge this are meme countries for tax evasion like Luxembourg and Ireland.
Dumb post
Spain and Italy had a much better debt situation when they were much more catholic. Theres no correlation whatsoever, if anything theres a stronger inverse correlation lmao
Debt has inflated everywhere but it's much higher in historically european protestant countries than catholic ones.
The dichotomy was the most obvious during the Renaissance in France, the moment they exiled the huguenots (who saved and invested much more than the catholic bourgeoisie and nobility who tended to just spend) they lost heavily economically while the countries that welcomed them (England, the Netherlands and what would become Prussia) took off.
>France lost heavily economically during the Renaissance
???
That literally never happened
Sounds like youre grasping at straws to support a nonsensical argument
>Spain
>good debt situation
>ever
>google search
>1 second away
Based moron
>Only countries that challenge this are meme countries for tax evasion like Luxembourg and Ireland.
Ireland was a poor country for most of its history of independence and the tax-evasion wealth is recent. Even when it was poor it was fiscally frugal. The Irish are an anomalous people with a mix of med and nord traits.
I don't have any mongolian blood. Your women have all a round face and yellow cheeks (kek)
People in the Southern US are largely Protestant (esp. Baptist) and take hospitality seriously.
>Places where food is more abundant are more likely to give out food
Gee I wonder
have you moronic mutts and Black folk really never heard about the custom of bringing a dish of some sort of food as a gift when visiting someone? The degenerated version of this custom is the practice of bringing wine, or a 6 pack of beer to share with the host.
And for the love of god, offer to wash the fricking dishes, clear the table, and to help make the meal you selfish lazy c**ts.
>less socially autistic germoid
>Invite someone
>want something in return
you're supposed to feel grateful you got invited and try not to be a burden. This is literally why we think blacks and mutts aren't civilized.
You're not supposed to expect a payment in return if you invite someone filthy israelite
its not a payment. It's like bringing flowers to a sick person. If you cant comply with the social convention due to your poverty then no one will make you feel bad about it.
It is a payment if you waiting for something in return filthy israelite
It's like bringing flowers to a sick person. If you cant comply with the social convention due to your poverty then no one will make you feel bad about it.
>It's like bringing flowers to a sick person.
kek, you are so stupid. You're a mongolian. When you're an host, you are the servitors of your guests, it works like that. So you finally realize you've been living in a mongolian culture since the beginning of your life?
>When you're an host, you are the servitors of your guests
maybe in your Black and mutt cultures
You have no culture barbarian
>You have no culture barbarian
or maybe we invented it
?t=294
>epiphameus of salamis states...
>source: his ass
kek
Even today, the Rhine shows a distinction between civilization and barbarics Germans
thats common in Spain, but its never a full on dish. Mostly a bottle of wine or something you can snack on before the actual meal. And it is absolutely not obligatory, just a sign of good will on the guest's part. You wont be ostracized if you bring nothing.
In Northern Europe when a guest comes over I'm usually not eating and they usually aren't either, if I'm having dinner and a guest comes over of course I'll offer them food. If you visit a Southern European, they are usually in the middle of 3rd breakfast/5th lunch/20th siesta and bust scoffing down food from a trough so its customary to join them eating.
Yeah we don't tolerate social parasites
It's mostly just when your kid's friend visit unanounced that they don't get food, and it's mostly out of reapect for the other kids parents since the hosts parents assumes that the other kids family is cooking a meal for him at home
The courteous thing is to not serve food if it isn't specifically an occasion for a meal.
How many times have you been forced to stomach some italian friend's godawful 'cooking' because you happened to step into their house and they won't shut the frick up unless you eat something?
If I didn't specifically invite you over for a meal, rest assured I will not force you to have one.
Its unbelievable that having lived in civilization for almost a milennia thats germanics and nordics still do not understand it. They then go on to make threads laughing at subsaharans when, socially, theyre on the same level.
I thought this map was a meme but reading some of these butthurt posters trying to defend it has really opened my eyes.
>bad hosts
unless explicitly invited over for food, the guests would be bad for expecting it as a default.
kek, the same norwegian over and over again!
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T EXPECT ME TO GIVE YOU SOME DOLLARS OF FOOOOD
>MY MONEY = MY FOOD
?t=26
>NOOOOOOO GERMANS ARE NOT STINGY AND SELFISH
what in the frick are you talking about
In Ireland youll get thea and biscuits at all times, drinks in the evening and obviously dinner.
Didnt know about Germans being like that, always thought them hospitable.
The US is dominated by Protestantism and the host providing food for a guest is a widespread expectation. It might just be nordic autism. I doubt the accuracy of that map though