Jesus is Not present in the New Mass (Novus Ordo)
Myth: Use of Latin is the only difference between the Tridentine Mass (Traditional Latin Mass) and the Novus Ordo.
Fact: When celebrating the Novus Ordo, the priest turns his back on Jesus Christ.
Fact: Novus Ordo altars do not have relics.
Fact: The laity are not properly trained how to handle the body of our lord Jesus Christ. Anyone who allows the divine presence to be desiccated, even by accident, incurs the wrath of God.
Fact: In 1570, Pope Pius V issued a papal bull stating that anyone who changes the Tridentine Missal "should know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul."
>When celebrating the Novus Ordo, the priest turns his back on Jesus Christ.
Only in a literal sense.
>Fact: Novus Ordo altars do not have relics.
So?
>The laity are not properly trained how to handle the body of our lord Jesus Christ. Anyone who allows the divine presence to be desiccated, even by accident, incurs the wrath of God.
What does dryness have to do with anything?
Fact: the stated conclusion does not follow from any of these allegations
So pope A has the authority to make a decree about the mass but pope B for some reason doesn't?
Correct. No pope has the authority to deny the divinity of Christ or the assumption of Mary for example
but papal bulls aren't ex cathedra
Yes they are
ok prove it
The liturgy is not a matter of faith and morals.
The issue is addressed and explained here:
Correct. Only I have the authority.
Catholic threads are getting increasingly comfy.
None of this matters. Give up your traditions of man and come to Christ.
shaitan!
Ok, which of these is the church established by Christ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
>Ok, which of these is the church established by Christ?
Justin Martyr's. Wherever that is on the list.
Wait the pope said that? This is game changing. Thank you.
Catholic Answers doesn't want you to know this, but there were popes who existed and defined things before the 19th century
>Fact: In 1570, Pope Pius V issued a papal bull stating that anyone who changes the Tridentine Missal "should know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul."
1) Actually, the Wikipedia article on Quo Primum has a good introduction to the subject. OP anon, you should read it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quo_primum
2) Please watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROJGXqgk86Y
He explains the whole matter very clearly.
3) Pic related.
>Fact: Novus Ordo altars do not have relics.
False. See: https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/relics-in-the-altar-4946
>Fact: When celebrating the Novus Ordo, the priest turns his back on Jesus Christ.
Ad orientem is permitted in celebrating the Novus Ordo Mass. The former pastor of my parish celebrated it ad orientem once a week.
See also: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-apocalypse-facing-the-people
>Fact: The laity are not properly trained how to handle the body of our lord Jesus Christ.
This probably varies by parish. We received reasonable training in my parish, although perhaps it could have been improved.
>Jesus is Not present in the New Mass (Novus Ordo)
False. See:
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/is-the-new-mass-illegitimate
Y’all know the Vatican puts everyone who goes exclusively to Latin mass on a list right?