>Lucifer is literally a character invented by John Milton in the 17th century
all religion and occultism is just gay larping, isn't it?
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Lucifer is literally a character invented by John Milton in the 17th century
>Lucifer is literally a character invented by John Milton in the 17th century
all religion and occultism is just gay larping, isn't it?
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Yes. Some claim larping is occultism (chaos magick)
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What the frick are you on about? The term and persona of Lucifer have been around since before time, first of all, but it was written about so many time before the 17th century. You are a moron, sir.
lucy pls
Ok now show context of chapter and non-KJV translation, moron.
meant for
lucifer is a title, as is satan. it stands for something.
>Before time
You sound like a gaymason.
If u are... on a scale of 1 to 10
How Mad?
Sort of. Apparently the ancient shit that even Jesus was referencing was based on the planets, like the "Morning Star" being Venus. but all that knowledge has been lost to time.
Hylic homosexual.
Gnostic halfwit
two gay morons
one gay moron
Nothing wrong with some gay larping, it's fun.
This
I don't care if religion is real anymore, I just really like the stories (and pissing people off)
God is very real.
If God is so real, why won't he fight me?
(This is a picture of me btw)
Isaiah 14:12
“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
book of Isaiah was written sometime around 740-700 b.c
Ah yes, written in English before the English language even existed.
It is in reference to Lucifers fall from heaven
Luke 10:18
18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
it was translated.
הֵילֵ֣ל hebrew
lucifer english
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/heilel_1966.htm
call 555-comeonnow so they can explain it to you better.
>Satan
>fall like lightning
A bunch of fake israelite babble
(LUCIFERIANS. I.E. THOSE FOLLOWING THE COSPLAYING CRIMINAL DRACO CALLING ITSELF LUCIFER OR SATAN OR WHATEVER OTHET MADE UP GOD)
DEATH TO ALL NEGATIVE REPTILES AND MASONS ET AL.
Reptiles hiding amogus
COPE. You are a disinfo agent trying to discredit one of the greatest prophecies that will be fulfilled on this planet. I hope you enjoy the show!
You're a gaymason about to be rounded up.
Cope n seethe, sewer lizard hybrid garbage can.
Kys now.
For those wanting more info, go to the patriots channel on YT called
TORY SMITH
you'll know him when you find it, start from his first upload.
Or read the Bible maybe? Stop trying to feed lies to the people.
Demons and ghosts. Bullshit tales to hide lizards.
Clever as serpent, snake, reptile.
Satan the dragon.
Its Draco.... wake up
Not literal serpents. You are full of shit. Using biblical references to define them and yet denying other biblical references that point to these very same things?
Your research is wrong. Period. Its a dead end designed to distract you. Who the frick wrote the Bible u idiot?
Donaldmarshallrevolution
We will both see who is right in the end. I'm done with this childish dispute with you.
Considering I'm being stalked daily and u are not, u take a guess fricktard.
This is what
is referring to here. Lucifer in Roman mythology was the son of Aurora, goddess of the dawn—but 'lucifer' is also a proper noun referring to Venus in the night sky, the "morning star." The translators of the King James Bible made a translation error with this verse, which is why some modern translations use "Lucifer" as a proper noun/name rather than a common noun—most modern & scholarly translations correct this
lucifer translates to light bearer. it's not a mistake.
>Old English, from Latin, ‘light-bringing, morning star’, from lux, luc- ‘light’ + -fer ‘bearing’. Lucifer (sense 1) is by association with the ‘son of the morning’ (Isa. 14:12), believed by Christian interpreters to be a reference to Satan.
>thinking Christianity has anything to do with planetary associations to false gods
It clearly does since israelites worship Saturn
I have no idea who or what israelites worship nowadays, but Christianity has nothing to do with modern day Judaism.
Yeah except that's wrong you fricking mong
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"Lucifer" is literally the Latin name for the planet Venus. The verse refers to Venus' transit across the morning sky ("falling like lightning from heaven.") The KJV translators fricked up and translated it as a proper noun, and from that point, contemporary poets and theologians (Dante, Milton) made the connection between "Lucifer" and Satan. There was no "Christian" Lucifer this occured
>in roman folklore
Deuteronomy 4:19
And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.
lol>
Revelation 22:16
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Indo European worship, that’s why he says he is the blood of David
The morning star is talking about indo Europeans giving them language and cattle.
As the Aryans traveled they would teach and praise like you do to kids, the israelites are crazy and that’s why their version of history has the Aryans telling them they are the best and to kill everyone else in a jealous rage
The god of Abraham, this guy with the big wiener, was a traveling indo European tribal leader who left the israelites to go help other people and they have been butt hurt since and want to kill all gods
The idea of a “bright morning star” is a star that outshines all the others, and Jesus is the One who is called “bright.” Satan was a morning star. Jesus, as God incarnate, the Lord of the universe, is the BRIGHT and morning star. Jesus is the most holy and powerful “light” in all the universe. So, while both Jesus and Satan can be described as “morning stars,” in no sense is this equating Jesus and Satan. Satan is a created being. His light only exists to the extent that God created it. Jesus is the light of the world (John 9:5). Only Jesus’ light is “bright” and self-existent. Satan may be a morning star, but he is only a poor imitation of the one true bright morning star, Jesus Christ, the light of the world.
The god of Abraham was a indo European tribal leader
That’s a photo of him drawn by Abrahams elders
Jesus is irrelevant when his father was a man who died thousands of years before rabbi Jesus claimed to be the next aryan god
Planets are dots in the sky
No. The God of Abraham is the Creator of all reality. You can push this filth all you want, but direct experience and supernatural proof goes way farther than this bullshit you are so desperate to push. People have been trying to push these lies on this board since the past couple of years. This is nothing new, and you are entirely wrong about it all.
>Jesus is irrelevant
Jesus Christ is LORD. You have no idea of the things you're talking about. You are just a parrot spreading misinformation, whether you're aware of this or not is beyond me. But you are spreading lies regardless.
No, this is a drawing of him, his wife, his cattle, his wiener, and his bro on a horse
You are so desperate to push this misinformation. I've seen your posts in the recent days and this whole concept of saturn worship and planetary worship is not true, at all. Jesus Christ is alive in Spirit. He is still doing His thing. He still gives His Spirit to certain individuals to do things that no one else is capable of.
The blood of Abrahams god still lives in all white men
If you want to honor YHWH then stop white genocide
Also, none of these verses actually disprove the point that I'm making.
actually proves my point, since it shows the same terminology being applied to Jesus (as
points out too)
Jesus Christ is not Venus. Jesus Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father, the highest rank in Heaven.
Matthew 11:11
11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Y'all really just making this up as you go along huh?
How on earth can I make up biblical scripture when they were written long before I was even alive? Everything I have said in those quotes are in direct reference to Biblical scripture. By all means, look it up.
It's clear that you've read the Bible, and perhaps even "studied" it by reading the English words and thinking about what they mean, but it's also clear that you've never *actually* studied the Bible as a historical document and a piece of literature. If you did, you would know what "Morning Star" meant in the Hebrew language, or the meaning of "Lucifer" in Latin, but you don't—you're literally just making up headcanon about a very ancient document you don't seem to fully understand. It doesn't really matter how many verses you cite if you're ignorant of their historical and linguistic context
I don't need to study it as a historical document or piece of literature when I have literally experienced the Spiritual implications spoken of in that Bible.
Your lies may fool those who don't know any better, but I know better.
The Bible IS a historical document and a piece of literature—it emerges from and is irrevocably joined to the cultural context that gave birth to it. Any "spiritual implications" present in the Bible are filtered through the lenses of the scribes who wrote the texts, the people who transcribed/altered/shared them among ancient cultures, the translators who made the text available to audiences throughout the centuries, and the people translating the text for modern audiences. On top of this, "The Bible" is not even a single monolithic text—it's a compilation of texts that has been altered many, many times over the years, and it wasn't even bound together as "The Bible" until centuries after the death of Christ.
You can SAY you don't need to study it as a historical document, but the reality is that that will only hurt you in the long run, as you won't be able to completely understand The Bible without doing so. If you're a true believer and not just LARPing, you owe it to yourself (and your faith) to study these subjects
You can read it as a historical document and piece of literature, that I don't deny at all. But there's other ways to read and interpret it. Nothing you are saying is new to me. Regardless of their alterations, the main purpose of the message it is meant to relay is still intact and there. Whether one has the eyes to see it or not, is beyond me. But I know what it's about and I have experienced first hand that the God spoken of in that Bible is real. I have experienced first hand that that very same God in that Bible is above all worldly and heavenly powers. I'll take personal divine experience over whatever you have to say about it.
>there's other ways to read and interpret it
Yes, I never said there wasn't—and you should do all of them if you want to actually understand the Bible in its entirety. Your current method of interpretation is highly subjective and fallible, and ignores the context behind the texts. Until you DO begin researching the Bible as a historical document, you won't really understand it—nor will you understand the history of Judaism, the history of Christianity, or what these texts actually meant to the audiences they were actually written for. Try to learn a some Hebrew, Greek, Latin, etc, and read the original documents. Or get an interlinear Bible and learn the original words as you go along
Once more, I'll take personal experience over anything you say. Good day!
Enjoy your continuing ignorance then lol
You will see in the afterlife that it was all real. It's only a matter of time.
I am literally a Christian but okay
>you're literally just making up headcanon about a very ancient document you don't seem to fully understand.
No, I'm not. My understanding comes from other observations made by credible sources. Do your own research. There is more at play than physical beings or literal interpretations.
The Foolishness of Nature Worship
13 Anyone who does not know God is simply foolish. Such people look at the good things around them and still fail to see the living God. They have studied the things he made, but they have not recognized the one who made them. 2 Instead, they suppose that the gods who rule the world are fire or wind or storm or the circling stars or rushing water or the heavenly bodies. 3 People were so delighted with the beauty of these things that they thought they must be gods, but they should have realized that these things have a master and that he is much greater than all of them, for he is the creator of beauty, and he created them. 4 Since people are amazed at the power of these things, and how they behave, they ought to learn from them that their maker is far more powerful. 5 When we realize how vast and beautiful the creation is, we are learning about the Creator at the same time.
6 But maybe we are too harsh with these people. After all, they may have really wanted to find God, but couldn't. 7 Surrounded by God's works, they keep on looking at them, until they are finally convinced that because the things they see are so beautiful, they must be gods. 8 But still, these people really have no excuse. 9 If they had enough intelligence to speculate about the nature of the universe, why did they never find the Lord of all things?
At least nature is real and actually provides. I'd say its foolish to follow a bronze age desert cult who's fake deity gets invoked in more heinous acts throughout history than any other.
Also, kindly stop spamming your bullshit. If anyone needs a gullible moron to repeat some verses then someone will let you know.
https://thebiblemadeplain.com/was-satan-really-called-lucifer/
https://www.franknelte.net/article.php?article_id=218
Basically Lucifer as modern occultists know it is a complete fabrication/LARP lol. It’s a mistranslation of the OT and only every used to refer to Jesus/good in the NT.
Luke 10:18 and Revelation 12:7-9 says differently though.
I said Lucifer NOT Satan. In the Latin Vulgate the term used in the passages you listed are draco/Satanas/Satanan. We get the term Lucifer (which would be Phosphorus in Greek) from the Latin Vulgate and it only refers to Jesus/Spirit/Good in the NT.
This wasnt referring to Satan. It was referring to a king of Babylon who called himself that. Satan is never called Luficer.
And the word in Hebrew could also be interpreted as “boaster” or “howling one”. The translation to Lucifer is based on the Latin Vulgate keeping a mistranslation from the Septuagint
Most of the mythology of Lucifer comes from Revelation. Revelation portrays the Dragon as "the Ancient Serpent that deceives the whole world," and his war in Heaven that causes him and 1/3rd of stars to fall along with him losing his own place in Heaven. The Ancient Serpent line ties him to the snake in Eden, the losing his place in Heaven ties him to the relevant passages in Isaiah and Ezekiel about the Morning Star and the fallen Cherubim.
What Milton did was to contextualize all of these associations into one coherent narrative, using the model of the epic hero. He by no means invented the character. I genuinely do not understand why that myth is so persistent, when even basic familiarity with the text would show that it's wrong.
Dragon... Serpent...
Enough hocus pocus nonsense.
They are ALIENS.
Specifically reptiles.
Period.
Also huge trash and they are anti human and should be treated like trash.
Aliens imply foreigners, but they are anything but. Demons, fallen angels is what they truly are. The Bible is the ultimate truth.
Wtf is a demon? Stop talking nonsense. You are falling into gaymason trap.
Technology we don't understand seems like magic to the laymen. Think.
A demon is a fallen angel. A spiritual being that has rebelled against the creator of all of this.
>implying the freemasons were the first to speak of demons
>confusing spiritual reality to technology
oh my God, catch up! You are falling for disinfo!
I openly detest the freemasons. To the point where they have attempted to harass me in public and on here. I'm not going to bother wasting my time proving myself to you.
gaymadons are hiding theizards. I'm being gangstalked in my home by them since April 2020.
Read the book The Devil Inside.
Dig deeper. Thats freemason lies. They hide the Vril.
Power of the coming race, Hitler was obsessed. Its lizards.
Kill em all.
I've been on their watchlist since 2012. You know nothing!
You're ignorant.
Enjoy chasing ghouls and ghosts morons.
Shir a 15 year old buy
People like you are being watched by certain beings that do not like the spreading of misinformation. Just know that people like you will be dealt with harshly and severely. The truth will be revealed.
You are smoking some nice crack. Delusions of grandeur.
Ghosts n ghouls what a fricking dunce. I'm outta, go frick yourself clownboy.
said the person who believes in literal reptile people! nice projection there lmao. good luck in the after life. you'll see just how real demons are.
A fricktard who believes in ghosts but not other life in the vast universe.
A waste of breath.
Ever hear of Dinosaurs?
Saurians
Know how deep some caverns go? On and on.
Frick you .
They are Draco cosplaying as "gods"
The two draco acting as satan/lucifer were arrested in 2015 and brought to a prison planet called Aaron.
Good riddance. Trump came in after, this is the remaining lizard/freemason cleanup were seeing now.
Sorry Aeron...autocorrect...
The divine comedy has lucifer though
watch out for the glows, they're desperate and they know they can't prevent the truth from being revealed, so they heavily rely on misinformation to keep you all from seeing things for the truth. they can't stop the one who is speaking out against them, so they are trying to discredit the information being spoken of. they will all get what is coming to them, and all those who support their deceptive ways and abide by them themselves.
Ideas are eternal. A rose by any other name.
So how long until the board meta-revolt is over and post ID's are implemented?
>2AG2P
I mean, can't we just try them out for a week? A few days even?
No
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-a-strange-drawing-could-undermine-our-entire-idea-of-judaism-1.5973328
None of you have any clue, huh? The God spoken of in the Bible is real, everything spoken of in the Bible is legitimate. The final prophecy to be fulfilled will prove that.
See
https://www.ancientpages.com/2021/02/12/ancient-yahweh-asherah-inscriptions-kuntillet-ajrud-remain-unsolved-biblical-mystery/
Traveling indo Europeans
That's not actually the case but even if it were it wouldn't matter. If enough people believe something exists than it will manifest in the Jungian collective unconscious.
Not necesarly look at the word Nachash its the hebrew word for the serpent used in Gensis it has 3 meaning snake, shining, snake like. Its also used as a smili anon is a snake the grass dont trust him.
>smili
A what?
Ment its a perjorative used as a smilie or a metaphor
For got to add this the book of gensis was written before the 17th century, and who knows maybe this is an eye wittness acount we are just dismissing it as meh Larp, but think magic is real and 46 sexes are real.
occult real but religion ya
I married his daughter.
I love her very much and she is an excellent wife.