How widespread has this idea been, >historically speaking?
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"Men shouldn't cry" / "Men shouldn't show their emotions"
How widespread has this idea been, >historically speaking?
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It hasn't been, it's unironically troony shit to try and gaslight men into thinking that if they cry that must make them women.
Showing your emotions is fine, just don't get hysterical or cry like a woman or you will be seen as a sissy homosexual.
incels triggered, nobody asked about your opinion
OP clearly did by posting this thread. Every answer you cited is unironcially correct. You might want to consider if you’re a hysterical b***h and consider fixing it.
No, and it never has been. However the ideal has always been that men shouldn't be hysterical b***hes and people who are themselves hysterical b***hes tend to often confuse these two things.
>Real men don't cr-
If you're a man you won't get the urge to cry nearly as much as women do, due to higher levels of testosterone in your body. Reduced levels of testosterone have been observed to make men more emotional. So I would say that it has been present more or less for the entire human history, as it's a biological feature. I know I haven't cried for like 8 years.
That is not to say that you shouldn't cry if, say, someone close to you died or you lost your job or something.
Crying less often adds weight to the times you do.
Men are supposed to be stoic
Like the modern age. Men during antiquity and the Middle Ages generally didn't hold back on their emotions and went hysteric when they felt like it, there's a lot of writings of them weeping bitterly and it was far more acceptable than it is now.
Why were they crying about? The death of comrades? The death of loved ones? Defeat in battle? Those are all acceptable reasons to cry. Getting broken up with by some random girlfriends is not a reason to cry. The wagie fricking up your Starbucks is not a reason to cry. Someone saying something to hurt your feelings is not a reason to cry.
Yeah pretty much
They also described crying as a result of religious devotion which is respectable
It’s only widespread among women and confused boys raised by single mothers. Men are supposed to control their emotions. You feel them, understand them, but you don’t let them stop you from doing what you have to do as a man. Feel how you feel, but if it’s something small, you don’t cry or overreact. You cry and react as is apportiate.
This question is a perfect filter for trannies, roasties, and feminine """men""".
It's not a matter of muh dignity or looking tough. Men are expected to keep composure and not break down emotionally because if they do so, everyone else will follow. Nothing worse in a bad situation than the most competent and strongest people losing their shit.
The idea has never really been that men shouldn't cry, but that men shouldn't be bothered enough by most things to be driven to tears. There were always times when it was fully appropriate to cry - the death of a friend or family member, for example. However, crying over minor personal failures, insignificant injuries, or material hardship was seen as weakness, as it signified that you would indulge in self-pity (or, worse, get other people to fix things for you) rather than focus your energy on overcoming the problem at hand.
Additionally, because casual contests of masculinity (which occur more-or-less continually between male peers, whether perceived or not) consist essentially of trying to drive the opponent to an outward emotional reaction while appearing unconcerned yourself, crying that your friend called you a poopoo-head lowers your social standing.
This becomes much more of a problem in the modern age of constant interaction and visibility with strangers, as men exist in an essentially perpetual state of perceived social vulnerability, meaning that no emotional expression besides smug laughter feels permissible.
The best remedy for the psychological problems thereby caused is to build a consistent, tight group of male friends with whom you can joke about your struggles. If joking about some stupid mistake one of them (not you) just made leads to their getting laughed *at* rather than *with*, you're not there yet. Keep trying.
Men can have emotions, but having big displays of emotion in public in most contexts is inappropriate because men are supposed to be leaders, be it of a family or something else. If your leader shows weakness, what kind of leader is he? That being said, expressing emotions in a way that isn't in womanish in private or at a funeral or something is fine.
My Japanese theater professor said that in traditional Japanese culture, emotional behavior was seen as childish and therefore effeminate, with stoicism and discipline as masculine to the extent that not just expressing joy, sadness, and fear but even uncontrolled rage was viewed as womanly. Hence why female characters got all the emotion masks including the demon face and heroic men just got the stoic and stern-looking faces. Apparently this a common masculine-feminine dichotomy in many cultures
if u dont think thats true ur a pussy
Its primal simian instinct given reasoning.
men are supposed to pretend that theyre someone else because that helps the general effort