>btfo'd rome so hard that their name is remembered forever
>acted as vikangz but in the medditerean
>bleached north african meddies
>bleached schytian alans
>arian fundamentalists
>persecuted the nicean homosexuals
Name a more based post-roman barbarian kingdom
They got BTFO H24 by the random berber kingdoms there
When the byzantine came, it was so pathetic that they needed only one battle to defeat the vandals
>Instantly falls into irrelevancy after Gaiseric dies
Unironically the most irrelevant North African state in history
No, that would definitelly be the Zirids
>Alans
Fricker those were whiter than Scandinavians at that point
lol, Nafri fantasy think cope
>iranian
>white
Best chase they looked like light skinned levantines or meddies
Alans were from the north side of the caucasus, they looked far whiter than Iranians
Alans were basically Ossetians who are swarthy frickers.
Not Scythians by any means.
Ossetians got raped by pretty much every single asiatic/mongoloid steppes people moving westward in the last 1600 years. They have nothing of Schytian aside the language
Ossetians have probably intermixed alot with neighbouring swarthier peoples during the 1500 year period they have lived in caucasus
Alans are Iranians you stupid frick. Even in the days of the Achaemenid and Medes, the Greeks described the Persians as being rudy and fair skinned, you dumb snowBlack person.
>Even in the days of the Achaemenid and Medes, the Greeks described the Persians as being rudy and fair skinned
Shut the frick up moron sandBlack person
Scythians were infinitely closer to Slavs than they were to Purrrsians
You speak the language of your Aryan conquerors like you speak English. Deal with it.
>Scythians were closer to Slavs then they were Persians
Sup homosexual /misc/ish subhuman
He is right
Nope
Schytians were litterally pale white with light brown, blonde and red hairs. Even ancient sources noticed how pale they were
Thats literally true tho
The premises of the formation of this kingdom were so absurd it's almost like God micromanaged the events to make it happens like some C2K autistic player.
In most timelines, NA would had remained in firm roman hands because, you know, germs usually dont have a fleet and cant into seafaring unless they belong to the Norse branch. So the Empire eventually would had likely moved the capital to the safe Cartaghe.
Now image a medieval roman empire based on Africa, in the former capital of it's most dangerous enemies, trying to safeguard isles and coasts of Europe from the continental barbaric kingdoms. So kino.
God is obviously a world building autist and does whatever tickles his fancy at the moment "hey what if I put greeks in central asia" boom alexander, hey what if I put asians in africa, madagascar and so on and so forth. He likes the rule of cool.
>germs usually don’t have a fleet
Lol, Germanic people are the most seafaring people in the world, even the English themselves derive half of their ancestry from seafaring Vikings and Saxons
>Vikings
I specifically mentioned norse germans as being skilled in seafaring, unlike the other germ branches
>Saxons
Dont know for any seafaring achievements aside building some boats to land in Britain, and then apparently burned them all
English people became master seafarring centuries later, basically in the 16th Century
Saxons buried themselves with their ships, find me one ship burial from a Phoenician, Roman, Greek or Berber site and we'll talk about who's the better seafarer
Please tell me some examples of great naval victories and seafaring achievements done by Anglo-Saxons before the Norman conquest. I will wait.
The anglo saxon jute conquest of roman england
Rometrannies coping itt
better version
>The emperor was determined to restore the province to its former extent and prosperity—indeed, in the words of J.B. Bury, he intended "to wipe out all traces of the Vandal conquest, as if it had never been, and to restore the conditions which had existed before the coming of Geiseric". To this end, the Vandals were barred from holding office or even property, which was returned to its former owners; most Vandal males became slaves, while the victorious Roman soldiers took their wives; and the Chalcedonian Church was restored to its former position while the Arian Church was dispossessed and persecuted. As a result of these measures, the Vandal population was diminished and emasculated. It gradually disappeared entirely, becoming absorbed into the broader provincial population.
Vandalsisters...
Nice half made up and half edited quote
You'll fit right in here at IQfy
they got sent to the shadow realm and only remembered as a name for crime.
imagine if we still had a germanic north african kingdom VGH
>be barbarian born in Germania
>conquer your way to Africa
>rape 100 roman women your way
Gets destroyed by the Eastern Romans. Keep in mind Belisarius' army was half the size of the Vandal army. So much about 'muh germanic supremacy'
Thats because they were already beaten/eaten up by berbers when the byzantines arrived
Berbers destroyed the vandals, not the byzantines who they only found a state in ruin when they came
Nafri coper.
Vandals used Berber women as dickwarmers until the Byzantines came.
When the Byzies entered Vandal cities, they found so much fricking loot taken from Africans and had Vandals living in such amazing luxury thst even those from Constantinople were amazed.
Cope snownig. No remaining Germanic Y chromosome haplogroup in that region of the world.
No remaining mongol y haplogroup in 90% of areas thry conquered.
Almost as if haplotism is useless and meaningless autism or something.
Lol dude, the Vandals fricked so many Moors and Berbers that even a lowly officer of a village met by a Roman official in 421 stated him and his troops as each having a harem of Africans
>No remaining Germanic Y chromosome haplogroup in that region of the world
Means absolutely nothing.
Means absolutely everything coping moron.
All male mediated conquests left a big mark on Y haplogroups. J1, R1b, R1a.
The vast majority didn't.
None of the dozen Turkic conquests in Europe did, neither did the conquest of the Magyars, or Scandinavians in Russia.
It doesnt work that way when you go beyong ugga booga level of society
Thats because turkics/mongols let their women marry locals while the males where too busy dying in war
Everywhere they went, they have seemed to left Maternal/Female genes more than males genes wich remains a mystery
Indo Aryans conquered IVC which were definitely way beyond ooga booga.
Also turned Africans into actual comedy:
https://academic.oup.com/book/3616/chapter-abstract/144928577?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Literally none of what you say is in your text
It was berber males with vandal women and you know it
>The native Berbers of North Africa who were kept in line during Gaiseric's rule soon began revolts and invasions against the Vandals following Gaiseric's death and Huneric's strict religious laws. The Vandals started rapidly losing territory in modern-day western Algeria to the Kingdom of Altava, and by the end of Huneric's rule he completely lost control over the Aurès Mountains to king Masties, who established the kingdom of the Aurès in 483–484.[30][31]
>In 510 the Frexenses Berber tribe under king Guenfan seized a portion of territory south of Thugga and established the kingdom of Dorsale, pushing the Vandals further out of inland.[33] Around the 510s, migrating Laguatan berbers under king Cabaon captured Oea (modern Tripoli) and Sabratha and established a kingdom there, and began sacking Vandalic territories and destroyed various Vandalic settlements.[33] Thrasamund attempted to crush him and retake his territory, but the expedition in 523 ended in a disastrous Vandalic defeat.[34]
>When the Vandals and the Berber kingdom of Dorsale came into conflict yet again, Hoamer suffered a decisive defeat by the Berbers led by Guenfan and his son Antalas.[33]
>Literally none of what you say is in your text
It was berber males with vandal women and you know it
I literally post a liberary of sources.
You post made up and edited wikipedia arcticles lol
Nafri boypussy twitching in frustration like his ancestors.
Nobody here is arguing that the Vandals never lost a war you imbecile
Everyone wins and loses wars
They lost all of their wars against the berbers and they needed berbers for their conquest of the roman province + raids on rome
Cope
>It was berber males with vandal women and you know it
moron there weren't much Vandal women to begin with, the migration into Africa was a very heavily male focused population hop.
The women and the Vandals the Byzies took were already mixed mutts created by Vandals and local women.
>Vandals
>based
They got their shit pushed in by the Byzzies so hard they straight up ceased to exist as a distinct people, with all those still alive turned into eunuchs or prostitutes.
Most people of all time ceased to exist after being destroyed/conquered
It is no the point of a people to exist forever, but the point is how exist while existing.
The flame that shines the brightest lasts the shortests.
That is why white people age so badly.
Imagin how much more beautiful Byzantine history would be if they died in 718, 1100 or 1204 instead of being a miserable battered pussy finnaly fricked in a whimper
moronic
>Arbitrary favourite
Ostrogoths, I like their kingdom in Italy and how much resistance they put up against the Byzantines compared to the shitty Vandals, plus they achieved some victories against the Franks.
>True best
Franks. Drove the Visigoths out of southern Gaul and generally dominated them, comquered the Alemanni, Saxons, and Lombards and more or less helped to create France and the Holy Roman Empire, and the most successful armies throughout most of the middle ages were French or French influenced (eg. the Normans).
I think people just like the Vandals as some moronic Carthaginian revenge thing or Neo-Punic Empire, which is true only in geographic terms.
Francia
They were bottom of the barrel tier among germs who lucked out by being ruled by a 400 IQ genius gigachad (Gaiseric) for well over half a century that lead them to overperform, as well as all the absurds setups that allowed this otherwise impossible conquest
The moment Gaiseric died they started being beat up by pretty much everyone, including random proto-tuaregs
>proto tuaregs
It was berbers who BTFOed the vandals
Not muffled matriarchal mulattos cucks and they were far southern than even today
The main issue was the lack of manpower, what both the nafri frickface and the snowBlack person on this thread do not know obviously, is that the Vandals basically merged with the native African civilian population near immediatelly by marrying their women, which was done largely in friendly terms, not some coomer fantasy.
So by the time Geiseric died the Vandals had a major shortage of actual warriors, because most of their population was already mixed and civilian after the initial generation of warrior chads died out of old age
The vandals got exiled into anatolia and persian borders as foedaratis
They left no genes in nafrica
>Gaiseric
He used Berber tribes for his wars
Fricking hell the nafri pussyfrick does not stop lol
How much of a pathetic seether do you have to be?
Also, the wars you speak off, where Moors defeated Vandals, have you read the sources? Have you read who they then plundered and enslaved?
Oh no, not the Vandals safe in their walled cities, but other native Africans under Vandal rule.
Every time even Procopius mentions Moorish plundering, he states that they are plundering and raping Libyans, not Vandals.
Also, you glorify the Romans deatroying the Vandals, but I guess you havent read what the Romans did to the Moorish armies and peoples after that lol
Wrong pic
The Romans warred and chased the Moors all the way to the Atlantic, killing and enslaving nearly all tribes they met
Moors killed three roman generals and were a constant threat to roman power
win wars, lose wars such is life
Imagine fighting the Vandals for 100 years, then just as they are destroyed and you think you are finally on your feet, another faction marches through your lands and absolutely ass rape everything....
And then that settles down only for another horde to sweep through and turn your bread basket into a desert
Yea outright oppressing the native catholic roman majority with their insane racial chaste system and arian fundamentalism pretty much torpedo'ed the hopes of long survival of the vandalic kingdom,
Impressive that despite being an excellent ruler, the ONE bad decison of Gaiseric (his arian fundamentalist) dismantle all the good he did to create a strong kingdom
>catholic roman majority
Idiot
fundamentalists
'Helios-Christus-Thor is son of Jupiter-Wotan but inferior to him' - Arian vandal, probably
the vandals didn't leave any genetic trace in north africa, they were too little in numbers
i'm sure some vandal chieftains had harems of north african women like any chieftain, but they were too little in number to really have any impact anyway
Correct Among extimated 1 tirllion of 400 AD you only have 128 genetic ancestors
I even doubt the harem thing since their troops were berbers, this is the best thing to make your troops angry
Most human populations throughout history didn't think in ethnic terms of "muh women".
If the women were of a different tribe and not their sisters/daughters, why would the troops have cared?
There is a huge chances those women were of their family since the majority of the vandal army were berbers
Literally the worst most Black personish barr kingdom what are you talking about?
Most based would be the Franks