Netbooks were cool and anyone who says otherwise is a homosexual. The closest thing you can get to one nowadays is an 11 inch HP Stream, but you can't upgrade literally anything.
Netbooks were cool and anyone who says otherwise is a faggot.
Netbooks were cool and anyone who says otherwise is a homosexual. The closest thing you can get to one nowadays is an 11 inch HP Stream, but you can't upgrade literally anything.
Whatever homie I'm using my gaming laptop
netbooks were good 15 years ago
nowadays we can have smaller, lighter, better devices with good displays for the same price
This, we just call them subnotebooks
>smaller, lighter, better devices with good displays for the same price
There are no proper 10 inch x86 laptops. The smallest you can get is 13 inch. Atoms and tablets don't count.
What about my 8 inch laptop with 1195G7?
>The smallest you can get is 13 inch. Atoms and tablets don't count.
Lol, you sure about that dude? There's a lot of non-Atom 10 - 12 inch laptops.
Most netbooks used Atoms anyway
literally bought 11" laptop with proper Ryzen 5 last month
Anon with bezel shrinking a modern 13" notebook is the equivlant of a 11" from back in the day, they arn't quite netbook small but the difference is almost negligible.
Asus L210 is 11.6" and lets you upgrade the internal storage (NVMe slot) but that's it.
Sucks that the form factor gets shafted, it'd be cool if there were 11" laptops with anything better than a fricking Celeron in 2022
Buy an iPad
They're built to price, just like netbooks were. They also have extremely limited expandability, just like netbooks did.
The difference is, a netbook offered you a single-core Atom (basically 1000%-overclocked Pentium 1) with 2GB RAM at best. A modern Celeron is, what, 10 times faster again?
>They also have extremely limited expandability, just like netbooks did.
Netbooks had user-replaceable battery, ram, Wlan and storage. Which is the same as every other laptop at that time.
Today there is nothing replaceable or expandable.
> A modern Celeron is, what, 10 times faster again?
Nope, a 4c atom and a modern cellery aren't far apart, and you still only get 2-4GB ram.
>Upgradeble ones are still avaiable.
Oh really. Show us a new, modern, avalible netbook with replacable battery, ram, Wlan and storage.
>1024x576 crap anymore that costs 800 bucks.
Netbooks were $300 when they came out. That was the biggest point of them. And 1366x768 isn't much better.
>Today there is nothing replaceable or expandable.
maybe don't buy cheap consumer shit?
>Netbooks were $300 when they came out.
see
was nobody of you alive back then? I remember waiting for the price to drop but then bought a Lenovo netbook instead
>the first, prototype model
>that was overpriced, underperforming and generally a piece of shit
>and i was stupid enough to buy one and get taken for $200 more than rrp
>is exactly the same as the machines available six months later
>with higher res screens, twice the memory, 10x the disk space, windows xp or 7 instead of some shitty linux distros
>for half the price
Sorry you paid early adopter tax, and then moron tax on top of it - but we didn't.
>Sorry you paid early adopter tax, and then moron tax on top of it - but we didn't.
I didn't, I even said it in my post which you apparently didn't read
Also sure prices dropped in the upcoming years, in 2009 you could get one for 450 bucks already but it was still a underpowered POS, compared to what the same money gets you these days in the same size class, multicore ryzen apu with ssd and 8gb of ram that you can't notice any slowdowns under normal usage compared to a desktop PC
That's great and all, but it wasn't 2022 in 2009, funnily enough.
Now I'm starting to see how you paid $800 for a $600 POS that most people got for $300.
I never claimed they costed 800 USD though and I never paid 600 USD for one, which I even said a few posts ago, but apparently people here can't into reading comprehension
>That's great and all, but it wasn't 2022 in 2009, funnily enough.
that was kinda the point, bigbrain
>>that was overpriced, underperforming and generally a piece of shit
Literally all netbooks from the time were. The technology wasn't there yet.
>ut apparently people here can't into reading comprehension
I'm not surprised if people here think Lenovo made eeePC's, this place is full of tech illiterate morons.
>Literally all netbooks from the time were. The technology wasn't there yet.
Netbooks, sure but there were already subnotebooks the same size that had far better specs.
You get what you pay for though.
Something like
came out years before netbooks even and had better specs than most netbooks did for years after release.
I have a recent small 3:2 Matebook and battery, WLAN and storage are user replaceable, only thing soldered is RAM.
Netbooks didn't go anywhere. Upgradeble ones are still avaiable.
I have no idea where this meme comes from that they are gone.
They are better and cheaper than ever, it's not single core Atom with 1024x576 crap anymore that costs 800 bucks.
The two netbooks I bought in 2009 and 2011 were $399 and $429 respectively. If you paid anything like $800 for them, maybe consider not wearing that "I am a fricking moron, rip me off please" headband.
Check eeePC launch price, it was 600 USD. Remember what piece of shit it also was?
>netbook
>not a UMPC
ngmi
Imagine typing on that thing
Yeah it's ass but I'd still love to have had one when it came out.
the gpd win 3 is similar if you want a modern machine with the same form factor
Yeah, true. Eventually I want a modern UMPC again.
ARM netbooks were cool. Intel ones are garbage.
*leaves a third degree burn on you*
No, they were mobile phones with keyboards.
They couldn't run Windows either - the fact that ultra-cheap netbooks came with Linux resulted in 50% return rates.
>ARM netbooks were cool
they still are
ARM netbooks were pure shit by any objective metric, stop being a zoomer contrarian.
Nope, cope and rope.
lmao
>3 usb ports
>ethernet port
>vga out
>hdmi out
>audio jack
>can fit two 80char wide terminals side by side
my favorite netbook ever. maximum overcomf.
i got one of those from my uni, and man that thing sucked
impossible to program with that shit keyboard and sub 720p resolution
The resolution is good enough if you use 1337 bitmap fonts
i can confirm. i posted the image and i could get 2 xterms side by side on the fricker using xmonad.
i had this thing for a while in 2009, it only had 8gb of storage and came with Windows XP and i needed some program called flashfire just to make it run faster because load times were dogshit
1024x600, 32 bit Intel Atom, 1 GB RAM, I was lucky to get the 120GB HDD version.
I daily drove Xubuntu on it and it got me through college.
I took my MSI Wind U100 with me everywhere I went to for 8+ years and now I'm still using it for my home server. The battery is shot, I replaced the HDD with an SSD and I had to lubricate the fan but other than that it's still working fine. Easily the best $300 I've ever spent on tech.
I miss cheap but durable laptops.
I did exactly this too. Alas, it's long gone - the lack of Gigabit and USB 3 became a serious bottleneck quite a few years ago now.
gpd.hk
Did picrel kill the netbook?
no, tablets did
nobody ever used picrel
>tfw had Vista on a laptop and it ran perfectly
For the longest time I didn't understand why people hated Vista, until I found out it was because it required high specs.
The hate never made much sense. The same morons who hate vista love 7 even though it's basically the same thing
Same is true for morons who love Win98 SE but hate ME and 98
I didn't though, it required below average PC to run well when it was released.
The problem was drivers for older hardware and the fact that half of the market was literally 5+ year old computers still at that point.
XP got the same hate because people tried to run it on their 120MHz 64MB RAM Pentium MMX machines and slow hard drives, etc, etc.
You are wrong and the world not only disagrees with you but proves it.
Nope, live thru both eras.
I literally have a laptop with a 120MHz PMMX chip in it right here.
There was never a 120mhz MMX chip.
Netbooks became a thing after Vista in fact many netbooks came with XP preinstalled and manufacturers just straight up skipped Vista and released drivers for 7.
I own a 900HA which came with XP and later upgraded to 7.
From the actual netbook period, many were "Designed for XP - Vista compatible" stickered POS
no, but normies, tablets and smartphones did
Netbooks were mostly Windows 7 era. I think it's more that Windows 10 and the modern, bloated web killed them.
>modern, bloated web killed them.
Ad Black folk are to blame for 99% of web bloat.
For a while you couldn't even go to WebMD without your computer reaching 100% CPU usage if you didn't use an adblocker, and that's before even loading anything like the symptom checker.
You go to the site and suddenly your computer (8 cores btw) is using all of its resources. Doing what?
Loading ad after ad after ad in an endless loop.
I actually miss the days when ads were simply a GIF banner or two at the top of a site and on one side. Ad Black folk have gone TOO FAR in the modern era it is fricking ridiculous. The environmentalists should go after them for wasting electricity.
>I actually miss the days when ads were simply a GIF banner or two at the top of a site and on one side.
That must've been the very early days of the commecial web because I remember Flash ads as the cancer of pre-2008 Internet.
Netbooks never died. There was also the T100TA. Its just sluggish and the older models have only 2 GB RAM. The main drawback is it using eMMC.
netbooks were a moronic form factor. these days tablets make them obsolete
They are not obsolete though, they are very much still on the market and if they weren't profitable (aka they were obsolete), nobody would make them since nobody would buy them, but alas.
What was cool about them exactly? Kinda sounds to me like it's just the flavor of the month contrarian take.
>flavor of the month contrarian take.
oh boy
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/netbook%20/type/op/
They were cheap and you could buy them on a whim which meant you could treat them like you didn't care and that's what made them great.
And of course you could install your favorite GNU/Linux distribution on them.
Yeah? Are you aware cheap laptops didn't go anywhere?
*Cheap 10" laptops with a replaceable battery/storage/RAM and built to last
So it's actually the combination of their size and serviceability? Shoulda said that from the start.
I personally have no idea why anyone would want a tiny laptop, but they exist, so some people must like them.
I have a 12.5" 25W CPU Thinkpad sitting on my chest right now and i sure as frick wish it were a 10" 4W CPU
I have a 11.6 incher with a 15W Ryzen APU
Beautiful, perfect size and literally days of battery with performance to back it up
model? the 11 inchers i see either have celerys or pentiums, a ryzen notebook would be pretty cool beyond the novelty of owning a smol laptop
a pentium n5030 is honestly not that slow, it's about 3/4ths the processing power of a dual-core 15w i3.
the last decent entry was the GPD WIN P2 MAX but that wasn't directly replaced.
particularly business machines, which come in 14", 15.6" or frick you.
nevermind, they updated this for 2022.
might buy one actually lol
This 13 inch laptop I have has roughly the same footprint as my old 10 inch netbook
>off center keyboard
are these people moronic
btw look how much space the keyboard is taking, if they made the space smaller then they could fit there all the keys that "required" them to make keyboard off center
nta but i have picrel, which is similar, and i never even noticed it while using it. most keyboards are """off center""" to some degree and it's way nicer having dedicated home/end/pgup/pgdn keys for their inherent and overloadable utility than to have to Fn or chord them onto the arrow keys or some other stupid shit other laptops do.
I think modern netbooks are cool but the first gen Eee PC 701 (which introduced the trend) was a nearly unusable piece of garbage made to scam idiots out of their money. A colleague of mine purchased one back in the day to use for light work (basically field tool for network troubleshooting and maybe browse the web to look for answers in the field and download drivers). He installed Windows XP on it and used it for less than a month before shoving it in the back of his drawer and never using it again.
no you're right i wish there were midrange small laptops theyre all 14" minimum so you're left with a tablet/chromebook or a 1500$+ laptop
Do you people never browse tech? Not only is there netbooks in the 8-10 inch range, actually quite a lot of options, but also subnotebooks in the 11.6 to 13 inch range. Everything to well known Thinkpads and Matebooks to lesser know GPD ones, but something in every size and price range.
non-upgradable soldered in ram and eMMC 11 inch laptops are fine if you get them refurbished or new for under $100, they're not worth much more than that unless they're Celeron N4020 based, which is merely passable for web browsing and youtube playback these day, it's what they put in new low end Chromebooks these days.
You can't beat that 8-12 hour battery life and passively cooled design, you should get a desktop if you literally need more.
made for tiny little girls and queers to do math on with their tiny fingers and hands. and brains.
yes, and? we all know you want to hold that tiny hands after they finish on their programming
ill hold your hand anon. ill hold your tiny little notebook using hands <3
projection
My asus netbook came with Win 7 starter. Haven't used it in 5 years since the charger died.
Notebook were glorified e-waste nothing more.
Okay troony
Buy an original 11" Pinebook, you'll go nuts.
> >>>IQfy now likes netbooks
Old Good
New Bad
>now
funny when the threads to back to literally when netbooks became a thing
Except they suck for productivity, and tasks you'd use a netbook for are better done on a phone these days.
you can't use a phone while comfily putting it on your lap though, and the keyboard is a lot worse, not to mention the screen size. also the productivity on a netbook is fine, text editors and the internet works
>nnnooo but i sneed moar
If you care about the keyboard, or screen size, or being productive, you use a > 13" laptop and above.
Anything else is for a phone. It's extremely fricking simple.
Netbooks serve no purpose.
I don't, since I can get all my work done on the subnotebook and it literally fits in my jacket pocket.
I'd say the opposite, phones are only good for quick and easy tasks, subnotebooks are nice and portable and still give you a full PC.
I can use office tools on a subnotebook when on the move or shitpost with a proper keyboard, try that with a phone for long term.
take the 2in1 pill
>cell phone ARM cpu
>ultra portable
>passive cooling
>infinite battery life
>tablet mode engaged
what is this? i can't identify the model from this pic
I wouldn't want ARM unless its some basic Android tablet. The Xiaomi for 200 € looked good but I know what hell it is to unlock its bootloader to make it usable.
I got this instead, its only drawback is the battery lifetime (I need a powerbank anyway). It can run all x86 software including games. Though its not powerful, the dual core i7 is still better than 99 % of low end CPUs. My T102HA would explode after 10 tabs, now I can browse, write and surf like on my desktop PC. The internal fan stays off unless you run something demanding.
Its a good time to live in, you can get such devices used for 2-300 €. I've seen so many Haswell-Skylake era ultrabooks. They are still good. I would have considered the Surface Pro 4 but they want at least twice the money, especially for a 16 GB RAM device. RAM is soldered and I wouldn't get 4 GB anymore.
>but I know what hell it is to unlock its bootloader
Like everything Xiaomi, it only had a cooldown time and then you can use adb to unlock it. I don't see how it's a problem?
Xiaomi is one of the few OEMs who actually supports unlocking officially. They even support warranty with community ROMs.
Lenovo 11M836
what's wrong with ARM? I'm not a fan of detachable keyboards, however I have considered a tablet like that with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse but I've grown to like gesture enabled multipoint trackpad and keyboard paired to a touchscreen 2in1 clamshell more than a tablet. laptop-tablet > tablet-laptop.
Now with wanting Android, why? ChromeOS > Android, ChromeOS even has Android in it and with an ARM cpu, it runs the container natively with no need for an emulation translation layer. A large problem with running Android in a tablet is that you get a phone sized interface in many apps that didn't scale their interface properly, at least with chromeOS you get the option to run the Android or Linux version of the app and if available, the chrome webapp version too.
My 2in1 is just really slow and it's slow ARM so I want to upgrade soon, it's not unusably slow however so the form factor advantage is still worth being my daily driver IMO
I love how you zoomers summarize everything that isn't gaymes as "productivity". Because you barely do anything productive.
every computers is the sames shit and u has opinions cuz u mentally ill
bump
I would say some arm based windows notebooks are getting dangerously close to a reimagined netbook. They'll never make the leap to true netbook though, it's too white, too based to ever exist again.