Now that 25 years have passed, how do we rate his first term?

Now that 25 years have passed, how do we rate his first term?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    too simple, sometimes naive

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What's frog man up to these days?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i hate shanghai zoomers so much bros

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Dont worry, Xi’s about to deport them en masse to the countryside any day now

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Clinton administration tries to hold Jiang accountable for Tiananmen
    >Jiang pretends to be moronic
    >"wtf this guy is moronic. it's ok guys, we'll let him be"

    he was a tactical mastermind

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the frog with glasses was merely pretending to be moronic
      sure.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i miss this lil homie like you wouldn't believe

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So does every major city/region in China have a CCP clique or is it just the main ones like Shanghai etc?

    • 2 years ago
      A chang

      Only the biggest, most influential ones like Shanghai and Beijing. Lower-income inland prefectures find it hard to break through into prominence at the higher echelons of power.
      You can see this with the extremely high degree of support from Fujian and Zhejiang officials for Xi, it’s where he largely began his career in the Party and his historical links to Fujian are by and large that province’s only real opportunity for relevance at a federal level.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are there major policy differences between the cliques or is it just a "you get cucked out of any office of significance if your clique isn't in power" kinda thing?

        • 2 years ago
          A chang

          >Are there major policy differences between the cliques
          Only moderate differences, by and large. Things like how to streamline investment between provinces are the biggest arguments. Media is another thing, some smaller cliques are a bit like Southeast Asia in that they’re authoritarian, but too corrupt to actually enforce censorship laws so you can use a VPN watch whatever movies you like without the cops ever harassing you (except if they want to extort a parking ticket’s worth of money out of you.) as you can imagine this makes the rich cliques seethe hard as it makes them look bad

          provincialism/regionalism is still a large thing in china and the country is a lot more decentralized than people think. it's still closer to an empire like russia than a nation state like japan or germany. but that may finally be changing however slowly. xi is the first ccp leader to speak standard mandarin without a heavy accent for example.

          Oh yeah, China is far more fractured than meets the outsider’s eye, but it is absolutely being centralized. There was a wikileaks article a while back where Li Keqiang mentioned that China’s high-speed rail project wasn’t just to help transportation, economic buzzwords, etc etc, but to make any potential separatism harder by interlinking the provinces together even more tightly.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            When I went a bit deeper into Chinese politics I was a bit surprised at how the local governments can exert some level of power over the central government, for instance with regards to debt creation.

            Also the Chongqing Model and Bo Xilai's zealotry was fun to read about and made me realize that Xi is more of a moderate than the western media make him out to be.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks changbro

            Guys, this is a history thread.

            My apologies
            What was Jiang Zemin's haplogroup/Could Jiang Zemin have won WW2 for the Nazis if he was in Hitler's place/What was Jiang Zemin's IQ?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >What was Jiang Zemin's IQ?
            He was an engineer so probably a 125IQ turbotard.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        provincialism/regionalism is still a large thing in china and the country is a lot more decentralized than people think. it's still closer to an empire like russia than a nation state like japan or germany. but that may finally be changing however slowly. xi is the first ccp leader to speak standard mandarin without a heavy accent for example.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jiang Zemin singing Love me Tender and dancing the Cha Cha with Ramos

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Guys, this is a history thread.

  8. 2 years ago
    A chang

    If Jiang had been born in the United States or Canada I think there’s about a 30% chance he’d have been a furry in his teenage years

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Post historical evidence for the existence of North American furries in the 1940s.

      • 2 years ago
        A chang
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Based on the apparent state of development I'd say that's modern day Manitoba.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hard to rate this literal who when most people don't know who he is

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In another world, he would be a diehard libertarian capitalist giving lectures together with Milton Friedman.

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