The device is from 2015. That's over seven years ago. It'll still get security updates for a while. It's a pretty decent amount of time for updates. Any other Android wouldn't have gotten updates for tuis long.
You can root androids to install newer versions but the problem is the bootloaders are hacked together, there's always a risk of sideloading malware. It is pointless with US carriers like at&t who prevent models that aren't on their approved device list, and they don't care if your phone supports their specific requirements, they'll refuse your hardware access to the network.
So, you can root them, but you shouldn't, so the point still stands that that's pretty good compared to the competition and thus a dumb point to try to twist into "planned obsolescence"
even with custom ROMs, support for that long is quite the exception. Xiaomi Redmi 2X, also released in 2015, got official LineageOS up until this year, I'm not really sure if there were any similarly aged devices in the roster
just use unlock bootloader and flash gsi images, those are universal
for mediatek chinkshit there's mtkclient which can unlock it even when it's not allowed by manufacturer
>and they don't care if your phone supports their specific requirements, they'll refuse your hardware access to the network.
Quick question, can you spoof your phone's model number and identifier to get service in the US with root access?
An identifier is unique, so you'd have to have it from another real device but spoofing something like that is both complicated and will get you in serious trouble. You just have to buy a new phone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>An identifier is unique
I'm talking about the phone model identifier, which isn't unique by design. >spoofing something like that is both complicated
A quick google search tells me it is quite trivial. Simply changing the model identifier etc. in a file and since android 6 it also has to be written to memory using adb. Still not a complex task.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-android-6-0-change-device-model-name-additional-steps-required.3559040/ >will get you in serious trouble
Ah yes like you'll also get in serious trouble for pirating movies and tv shows online. Your isp doesn't give a shit. >You just have to buy a new phone
I don't, i don't live in the US, that's why I'm asking the not completely incompetent burgers here that might have some experience with that if it works or if additional steps are required. Could be some useful knowledge should i visit that place sometime in the future.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is that changing the IMEI or is it just the hostname or serial number. Your carrier identifies you by you IMEI
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was just hostname i admit, but changing the IMEI is also quite possible. Makeup of the IMEI is decently documented, so changing the IMEI to one using same model identifier of a model that's approved by some mobile isp.
No rooting necessary. Just unlock the bootloader. Also I'm assuming you meant the roms are hacked together because you don't actually change the bootloader on your phone.
US carriers don't let you unlock the bootloader as I recall. It's been a long time since I've had a carrier specific phone so idk, maybe it's different now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Idk if that's what you mean but I have a OP9 where I flashed Lineage to it instead of stock and can still use Verizon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did you buy it from Verizon though? Phones sold by the carrier in their stores are locked, not phones that you bring yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah I got it from Amazon so it wasn't carrier locked, so yeah you're correct
Just buy Motorola, pixels, or that one nokia they let you to bootload. I think you're allowed yo do it on some sony models too. But my recommendation is buying the newest motorola phone which works with lineage os with the largest battery. You'll probably get a similar support time. Probably a pixel is your best bet for longevity if you don't run into hardware issues. You get 5 years of support from google, then you'll probably still get support from graphene os for 2/3 years. And if you are lucky, you might be able to get kernel updates on lineage os for another couple of years after grapheme is drops it.
>You get 5 years of support from google
Not really, the Pixel 1 to 3 were dropped after only 3 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Now Google will give you security updates for pixels for 5 years. I think it applies to other android one models too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>just buy our new thing if you want support
every time
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't understand how updates work
why do you even browse here, midwit?
2 years ago
Anonymous
how do they work?
2 years ago
Anonymous
When Mediatek or Qualcomm release a new SoC they provide the phone manufacturers with the respective drivers built for the newest Android version.
Since SoC manufacturers want to keep making money they only update the drivers for a number of years, and when they stop there are no guarantees those drivers will work for the following Android versions.
This is why phones usually get two years of feature updates, because Qualcomm only provides two years of drivers; the security updates on the other hand don't require a kernel upgrade so they can keep providing them for more years.
Since Google has now switched to their own SoC they have full control over their drivers so they can keep updating them theough the kernel versions and can support their newest phones (>=Pixel 6) for much longer
Honestly quite staggered that Apple managed to keep the 6S and the SE alive, considering they decided to keep the iPhone 4 alive with iOS 7 which turned out to be a disastrous mess.
>Nearly a decade of official support
And let me guess, you totally audited your unofficial android upgrade to make sure it wasn't pajeetware? I'm sure rajesh has a lot to lose by disseminating a severely compromised ROM, unlike apple!
Listen, I'm pretty rich by IQfy's standards and I use an iphone 8. In one or two years, apple will declare it dead. At that point I will buy an SE, probably a 3rd gen, for less than $200. iPhones are the cheapest, longest lasting, most useful smartphones you can buy. You get every messaging and calling capability of jeetdroid plus imessage and facetime, a shitload of official support (apple is still replacing batteries on those unsupported phones), and they are very cheap to replace. Always have been, because iphones have shit resale. I mean really, iphone 11s and 12s can be bought for $500. I just prefer a smaller device over specs I'll never use. Tinder/bumble's hardware requirements are pretty fricking low.
It has the same internal as the X, so I assume its going to lose support as the same time as iPhone do.
Which is going to happen in 2023 or 2024, maybe 2025.
How is this news exactly? The Pixel 2, Googles own flagship, stopped even getting security updates after 3 years. The iPhone 6 has been out for 6 years and is still going to get security updates for how knows how long still.
How come I haven't seen this thread before?
The device is from 2015. That's over seven years ago. It'll still get security updates for a while. It's a pretty decent amount of time for updates. Any other Android wouldn't have gotten updates for tuis long.
You can root androids to install newer versions but the problem is the bootloaders are hacked together, there's always a risk of sideloading malware. It is pointless with US carriers like at&t who prevent models that aren't on their approved device list, and they don't care if your phone supports their specific requirements, they'll refuse your hardware access to the network.
So, you can root them, but you shouldn't, so the point still stands that that's pretty good compared to the competition and thus a dumb point to try to twist into "planned obsolescence"
even with custom ROMs, support for that long is quite the exception. Xiaomi Redmi 2X, also released in 2015, got official LineageOS up until this year, I'm not really sure if there were any similarly aged devices in the roster
>You can root androids to install newer version
>just find a kernel exploit to get the latest OS!
not root, he meant bootloader unlock, which doesn't require any exploits
just use unlock bootloader and flash gsi images, those are universal
for mediatek chinkshit there's mtkclient which can unlock it even when it's not allowed by manufacturer
Carriers controlling updates and the bootloader is so fricking moronic. I
>I
a-anon...?
AT&T saw what he was saying about them and cut him off. RIP ano-
>and they don't care if your phone supports their specific requirements, they'll refuse your hardware access to the network.
Quick question, can you spoof your phone's model number and identifier to get service in the US with root access?
An identifier is unique, so you'd have to have it from another real device but spoofing something like that is both complicated and will get you in serious trouble. You just have to buy a new phone.
>An identifier is unique
I'm talking about the phone model identifier, which isn't unique by design.
>spoofing something like that is both complicated
A quick google search tells me it is quite trivial. Simply changing the model identifier etc. in a file and since android 6 it also has to be written to memory using adb. Still not a complex task.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-android-6-0-change-device-model-name-additional-steps-required.3559040/
>will get you in serious trouble
Ah yes like you'll also get in serious trouble for pirating movies and tv shows online. Your isp doesn't give a shit.
>You just have to buy a new phone
I don't, i don't live in the US, that's why I'm asking the not completely incompetent burgers here that might have some experience with that if it works or if additional steps are required. Could be some useful knowledge should i visit that place sometime in the future.
Is that changing the IMEI or is it just the hostname or serial number. Your carrier identifies you by you IMEI
That was just hostname i admit, but changing the IMEI is also quite possible. Makeup of the IMEI is decently documented, so changing the IMEI to one using same model identifier of a model that's approved by some mobile isp.
No rooting necessary. Just unlock the bootloader. Also I'm assuming you meant the roms are hacked together because you don't actually change the bootloader on your phone.
US carriers don't let you unlock the bootloader as I recall. It's been a long time since I've had a carrier specific phone so idk, maybe it's different now.
Idk if that's what you mean but I have a OP9 where I flashed Lineage to it instead of stock and can still use Verizon
Did you buy it from Verizon though? Phones sold by the carrier in their stores are locked, not phones that you bring yourself.
Nah I got it from Amazon so it wasn't carrier locked, so yeah you're correct
Just buy Motorola, pixels, or that one nokia they let you to bootload. I think you're allowed yo do it on some sony models too. But my recommendation is buying the newest motorola phone which works with lineage os with the largest battery. You'll probably get a similar support time. Probably a pixel is your best bet for longevity if you don't run into hardware issues. You get 5 years of support from google, then you'll probably still get support from graphene os for 2/3 years. And if you are lucky, you might be able to get kernel updates on lineage os for another couple of years after grapheme is drops it.
>You get 5 years of support from google
Not really, the Pixel 1 to 3 were dropped after only 3 years.
Now Google will give you security updates for pixels for 5 years. I think it applies to other android one models too.
>just buy our new thing if you want support
every time
>I don't understand how updates work
why do you even browse here, midwit?
how do they work?
When Mediatek or Qualcomm release a new SoC they provide the phone manufacturers with the respective drivers built for the newest Android version.
Since SoC manufacturers want to keep making money they only update the drivers for a number of years, and when they stop there are no guarantees those drivers will work for the following Android versions.
This is why phones usually get two years of feature updates, because Qualcomm only provides two years of drivers; the security updates on the other hand don't require a kernel upgrade so they can keep providing them for more years.
Since Google has now switched to their own SoC they have full control over their drivers so they can keep updating them theough the kernel versions and can support their newest phones (>=Pixel 6) for much longer
I'd rather just get a new one at that point, most phone contacts are only 3yr anyway and moors law is still a thing
guys my 8 year old car didn't come with carplay and an electric motor who do i talk to about suing for planned obsolesce
guys they dont make parts for my 80 year old car ;_; planned obsolescence! the israelites did this!
Honestly quite staggered that Apple managed to keep the 6S and the SE alive, considering they decided to keep the iPhone 4 alive with iOS 7 which turned out to be a disastrous mess.
Android phones gets dropped from content updates after like 3-4 years.
Apple supporting phones for 6+ years is impressive.
>Nearly a decade of official support
And let me guess, you totally audited your unofficial android upgrade to make sure it wasn't pajeetware? I'm sure rajesh has a lot to lose by disseminating a severely compromised ROM, unlike apple!
Listen, I'm pretty rich by IQfy's standards and I use an iphone 8. In one or two years, apple will declare it dead. At that point I will buy an SE, probably a 3rd gen, for less than $200. iPhones are the cheapest, longest lasting, most useful smartphones you can buy. You get every messaging and calling capability of jeetdroid plus imessage and facetime, a shitload of official support (apple is still replacing batteries on those unsupported phones), and they are very cheap to replace. Always have been, because iphones have shit resale. I mean really, iphone 11s and 12s can be bought for $500. I just prefer a smaller device over specs I'll never use. Tinder/bumble's hardware requirements are pretty fricking low.
>over 5 years of software support
>planned obsolescence
do droidgays really?
iPhone8chads.. we survive
Good morning sir
It has the same internal as the X, so I assume its going to lose support as the same time as iPhone do.
Which is going to happen in 2023 or 2024, maybe 2025.
>6 year old phones not getting updates
LOOOOOL BTFO IM GOING TO ANDROID NOW HAHAHHAA
How is this news exactly? The Pixel 2, Googles own flagship, stopped even getting security updates after 3 years. The iPhone 6 has been out for 6 years and is still going to get security updates for how knows how long still.
meanwhile pajeetdroid gays switched phone like 3 times due to no support after 2 years (or less)
>tfw bought Pixel 3 new in Jan 2019
>it got its last security update at the start of this year
three fricking years. thanks google.
it's only half as long as iphone! cool!
Most manufacturers that produce Android devices are far, far worse.