Probably, he wrote the first drafts and did the research for M&D and ATD as well as a 4th yet released book at the same time as GR, so probably not sleeping much and probably using something so he wouldn't need to sleep much.
I've seen anon speculate about a 4th unreleased book in other TRP threads. Is there a source for this? Something in the trove of papers his estate sold last year?
Was it possible to access any of the donated notes? I thought they went straight to a museum and would access would require some sort of permit for a thesis.
I don't know if anyone's had access to them yet, looking back the Huntington Library said access would be managed after "processing," estimated to take ~1 year. So I don't know if anybody has had a chance to look at them, but I'd guess it's like you say, that it would require some special application/permitting process. I only ask because this 4th unreleased book thing feels plausible but also feels like it could just be schizo dot connecting.
Personally I think it is pretty much done but he decided he would just fiddle with it until he dies and let it get released when he is in the ground. There is no proof or anything, nothing has been leaked, we just have a very strong chance that the 4th book is still sitting in his office waiting to see daylight and time is running out.
So he wrote Against the Day for what? 5 decades?
He wrote Vineland and M&D during that same 5 decades and we have to knock at least a decade off since he didn't really write for over a decade after GR due to crippling writer's block. About halfway through ATD and it is insanely complex, probably going to take a few reads to sort out.
Ok, makes sense about the 4th book. I have the same sneaking suspicion that there's another book in there somewhere but my fantasy is that it's an autobiography or memoir or some other return to nonfiction.
According to Max Lawton (yeah, yeah) it deals with the civil war, though he was quick to point out that it was just a rumor. I don't know how close he is to the Pynchon-adjacent publishing world, so make of it what you will.
Civil War does not really make sense with the way the series explores technology and how that interacts with society/politics/conspiracy, at least not in any way that I can see. Suspect that rumor is just based off of looking at the largest gap in the time line of the series.
M&D >technology first starts have a real effect on the average person in an abstract way, boundaries become imaginary, time becomes less vague, etc
ATD >technology becomes a part of everyday life the things it promises reaches everyone
GR >technology defines life to the point it can not be separated from the human
The gap is between ATD and GR, technology becomes a consumer good and will probably in the interwar period. A bit more complex than my simple summaries but phone posting right now so not going into massive depth. The series follows technological epochs in respect to society's relation to technology and over all gives a very interesting and unique history of the US that is surprisingly human when you step back and look at it in its whole.
It's set in Mexico during the revolution and California during the oil boom.
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I could see that and it works in many way with the overall series, but I think there would be a bit too much overlap with ATD as far as the society angle is concerned. Would probably the great though, ripe for a Pynchon novel.
Writing is easy when you're drugged up and sleep deprived. Editing is what makes a novel; which is a process that has to be undergone sober and clear of mind.
I've been coffee'd up and sleep deprived before, and subject to fits of uncommon inspiration through the midst of it all. Though I hated going through them I remember exam weeks (when all the final papers fell due as well) with a certain degree of fondness. Though I no longer procrastinate, the lifestyle did have its perqs.
I just had 4 shots of rye whiskey at a Mardis Gras get-together but am back home now ready to coffee down and read for the next 4+ hours
So, if you'll excuse me, I'm off
Probably, he wrote the first drafts and did the research for M&D and ATD as well as a 4th yet released book at the same time as GR, so probably not sleeping much and probably using something so he wouldn't need to sleep much.
I've seen anon speculate about a 4th unreleased book in other TRP threads. Is there a source for this? Something in the trove of papers his estate sold last year?
Was it possible to access any of the donated notes? I thought they went straight to a museum and would access would require some sort of permit for a thesis.
I don't know if anyone's had access to them yet, looking back the Huntington Library said access would be managed after "processing," estimated to take ~1 year. So I don't know if anybody has had a chance to look at them, but I'd guess it's like you say, that it would require some special application/permitting process. I only ask because this 4th unreleased book thing feels plausible but also feels like it could just be schizo dot connecting.
Personally I think it is pretty much done but he decided he would just fiddle with it until he dies and let it get released when he is in the ground. There is no proof or anything, nothing has been leaked, we just have a very strong chance that the 4th book is still sitting in his office waiting to see daylight and time is running out.
He wrote Vineland and M&D during that same 5 decades and we have to knock at least a decade off since he didn't really write for over a decade after GR due to crippling writer's block. About halfway through ATD and it is insanely complex, probably going to take a few reads to sort out.
Ok, makes sense about the 4th book. I have the same sneaking suspicion that there's another book in there somewhere but my fantasy is that it's an autobiography or memoir or some other return to nonfiction.
According to Max Lawton (yeah, yeah) it deals with the civil war, though he was quick to point out that it was just a rumor. I don't know how close he is to the Pynchon-adjacent publishing world, so make of it what you will.
Pynchon is 86. Will he ever release it? Going out with Bleeding Edge would be lame.
Civil War does not really make sense with the way the series explores technology and how that interacts with society/politics/conspiracy, at least not in any way that I can see. Suspect that rumor is just based off of looking at the largest gap in the time line of the series.
M&D
>technology first starts have a real effect on the average person in an abstract way, boundaries become imaginary, time becomes less vague, etc
ATD
>technology becomes a part of everyday life the things it promises reaches everyone
GR
>technology defines life to the point it can not be separated from the human
The gap is between ATD and GR, technology becomes a consumer good and will probably in the interwar period. A bit more complex than my simple summaries but phone posting right now so not going into massive depth. The series follows technological epochs in respect to society's relation to technology and over all gives a very interesting and unique history of the US that is surprisingly human when you step back and look at it in its whole.
It's set in Mexico during the revolution and California during the oil boom.
I could see that and it works in many way with the overall series, but I think there would be a bit too much overlap with ATD as far as the society angle is concerned. Would probably the great though, ripe for a Pynchon novel.
So he wrote Against the Day for what? 5 decades?
And it shows!
Writing is easy when you're drugged up and sleep deprived. Editing is what makes a novel; which is a process that has to be undergone sober and clear of mind.
I've been coffee'd up and sleep deprived before, and subject to fits of uncommon inspiration through the midst of it all. Though I hated going through them I remember exam weeks (when all the final papers fell due as well) with a certain degree of fondness. Though I no longer procrastinate, the lifestyle did have its perqs.
This is normal for magical operations
So there's a nonverbally specific working-up process? If so, less 'marginally' plausible than I had supposed. Cite an instance?
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Aren't we all drunk and drugged up here?
I just had 4 shots of rye whiskey at a Mardis Gras get-together but am back home now ready to coffee down and read for the next 4+ hours
So, if you'll excuse me, I'm off
>I just had 4 shots of rye whiskey at a Mardis Gras get-together
Sounds fun!