He didn’t ruin it. The people who listened ruined it. Spengler was 100% right about intellectuals. Look at Marx. He is a nobody without Marxists.
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one might ask who Spengler is without random people appearing in arbitrary threads saying he was right without explaining how.
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Spengler is pretty well-known so I didn’t think I had to. Oswald Spengler. He wrote the Decline of the West, a philosophy on history and morphological analysis of civilizations. In the book, he says that people mistakenly believe that intellectuals play a primary role in events by convincing and in turn guiding actions when in reality intellectuals merely describe in words what is already felt by many. Thus, the importance and influence of Marx, whether on politics, economics, philosophy or whatever, was affected mainly by Marxists and not Marx.
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Anonymous
>Spengler is pretty well-known so I didn’t think I had to
Marx isn't?
>importance and influence of Marx, whether on politics, economics, philosophy or whatever, was affected mainly by Marxists and not Marx.
that sounds like a very boneheaded way of looking at it. what would be the Spengler's influence without Spengler fans like you telling me about it? it's obvious Marx didn't invent shit, you can see socialist ideas in Ancient Greek. the question is would all this leftist take over shit happen if Marx didn't exist. that's how you weigh one's effect.
I hope either I misunderstand, which I don't think is the case from what you wrote, or I hope you are over-simplifying and losing some nuance because if this is what Spengler has discovered he discovered nothing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Spengler was 100% right about intellectuals
What did Spengler say about intellectuals?
5 months ago
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Marx is nothing without Hegel, not Marxists.
>Spengler is pretty well-known so I didn’t think I had to
Marx isn't?
>importance and influence of Marx, whether on politics, economics, philosophy or whatever, was affected mainly by Marxists and not Marx.
that sounds like a very boneheaded way of looking at it. what would be the Spengler's influence without Spengler fans like you telling me about it? it's obvious Marx didn't invent shit, you can see socialist ideas in Ancient Greek. the question is would all this leftist take over shit happen if Marx didn't exist. that's how you weigh one's effect.
I hope either I misunderstand, which I don't think is the case from what you wrote, or I hope you are over-simplifying and losing some nuance because if this is what Spengler has discovered he discovered nothing.
Nicely put, but Marx’s work as a classicist in expounding the socialist ideas of the Greeks, in contrast to Hegel’s politics, is not to be understated.
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> Look at Marx. He's nothing without the Marxists.
Don't larp as if you ever read a single page of Marx. At best, Marx was raped by self proclaimed "Marxists". Morons like Mao, Stalin, Lenin, all of the "orthodox" Marxists, who understood close to nothing about the nature of capital.
5 months ago
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>it wasn't real marxism guise
every time
5 months ago
Anonymous
> Emile or on Education
Read it, it shows you how to raise Uebermensch
5 months ago
Anonymous
Burke was on to something when he said that Rousseau was the philosopher of vanity.
5 months ago
Anonymous
He was objectively correct about how politics works. All later writers were anglo copes
5 months ago
Anonymous
>"Jean-Jacques Rousseau eventually married his lover Thérèse Levasseur, but abandoned all of his five children to foundling homes. This did not stop him writing a treatise, Emile, on the proper upbringing of children."
5 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't it libs who say that a man's theories shall not be judged by his actions?
The hypocrisy of libs...
5 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine giving a shit about this lmao. Meanwhile his opponents who spread this rumor were Godless sodomites like Voltaire
5 months ago
Anonymous
>the society founded on this man's beliefs is pure shit, and he's considered a genius by the shitty society. in his own life he was also a hypocrite, BUT HIS IDEAS MATTER BECAUSE.... UHH
shocking
5 months ago
Anonymous
>There is a false saying: "How can someone who can't save himself save others?" Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>French-Swiss >bad Philosopher
MANY such cases!!!
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think the weirdest thing about him is that he inspired both chuds and turbolibs alike.
Hobbes and Locke did it first.
He didn’t ruin it. The people who listened ruined it. Spengler was 100% right about intellectuals. Look at Marx. He is a nobody without Marxists.
one might ask who Spengler is without random people appearing in arbitrary threads saying he was right without explaining how.
Spengler is pretty well-known so I didn’t think I had to. Oswald Spengler. He wrote the Decline of the West, a philosophy on history and morphological analysis of civilizations. In the book, he says that people mistakenly believe that intellectuals play a primary role in events by convincing and in turn guiding actions when in reality intellectuals merely describe in words what is already felt by many. Thus, the importance and influence of Marx, whether on politics, economics, philosophy or whatever, was affected mainly by Marxists and not Marx.
>Spengler is pretty well-known so I didn’t think I had to
Marx isn't?
>importance and influence of Marx, whether on politics, economics, philosophy or whatever, was affected mainly by Marxists and not Marx.
that sounds like a very boneheaded way of looking at it. what would be the Spengler's influence without Spengler fans like you telling me about it? it's obvious Marx didn't invent shit, you can see socialist ideas in Ancient Greek. the question is would all this leftist take over shit happen if Marx didn't exist. that's how you weigh one's effect.
I hope either I misunderstand, which I don't think is the case from what you wrote, or I hope you are over-simplifying and losing some nuance because if this is what Spengler has discovered he discovered nothing.
>Spengler was 100% right about intellectuals
What did Spengler say about intellectuals?
Marx is nothing without Hegel, not Marxists.
Nicely put, but Marx’s work as a classicist in expounding the socialist ideas of the Greeks, in contrast to Hegel’s politics, is not to be understated.
> Look at Marx. He's nothing without the Marxists.
Don't larp as if you ever read a single page of Marx. At best, Marx was raped by self proclaimed "Marxists". Morons like Mao, Stalin, Lenin, all of the "orthodox" Marxists, who understood close to nothing about the nature of capital.
>it wasn't real marxism guise
every time
> Emile or on Education
Read it, it shows you how to raise Uebermensch
Burke was on to something when he said that Rousseau was the philosopher of vanity.
He was objectively correct about how politics works. All later writers were anglo copes
>"Jean-Jacques Rousseau eventually married his lover Thérèse Levasseur, but abandoned all of his five children to foundling homes. This did not stop him writing a treatise, Emile, on the proper upbringing of children."
Isn't it libs who say that a man's theories shall not be judged by his actions?
The hypocrisy of libs...
Imagine giving a shit about this lmao. Meanwhile his opponents who spread this rumor were Godless sodomites like Voltaire
>the society founded on this man's beliefs is pure shit, and he's considered a genius by the shitty society. in his own life he was also a hypocrite, BUT HIS IDEAS MATTER BECAUSE.... UHH
shocking
>There is a false saying: "How can someone who can't save himself save others?" Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?
>French-Swiss
>bad Philosopher
MANY such cases!!!
I think the weirdest thing about him is that he inspired both chuds and turbolibs alike.