Real normies consider piracy immoral (or they just don't know how to do it), whereas something like this is just a perfectly valid loophole to be exploited
My mom once freaked out when she caught me torrenting anime when I was 15 and told me I was putting our whole family at risk
2 years ago
Anonymous
you did, but torrenting was not the problem here
2 years ago
Anonymous
kek thank you anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Keked
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mentioned to my grandmother that I was banned from Reddit once and she thought it meant the FBI had caught me doing something illegal. I don't know if telling the prostitutes on r/selfie to post breasts counts as illegal, but I'm pretty sure it's not prison-tier harassment
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I mentioned to my grandmother that I was banned from Reddit
This is the most baffling part of this post
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really. Your grandmother could be the age of a standard mother and the person who raised you. You could get banned from reddit a few minutes earlier, go to the kitchen to eat something, and then, grandma asks what you've been up to, to which you respond you've been banned from reddit. Another possibility is that you could have shown your grandma something from reddit after you found something interesting or were asked to see what you were looking at. When you show the thing, you talk about the site, grandma is interested, and that's that, but a few months later, she asks about reddit. It's all pretty normal until you get to the part where you frick your grandma, which is an optional step you don't have to take.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A child who watches anime is always a risk to the family's honor.
Fundamentally a change should have taken place when virtual media became a thing in which the cost of all media spiralled down into cents on the dollar, reflecting the fact that you can mass produce it infinitely and in effect, infinite copies exist, and thus each individual copy is effectively worthless and everyone should be allowed to download it for the pittance that the bandwidth cost.
Unfortunately as with most intellectual property, the creators of the content aren't doing it to create content but so that they can continually milk profit from work done once and sit on their laurels, so you have to convince people that a digital copy of a game or a movie is worth $60 despite no longer even having the five-cent CD ROM, and then have them help enforce that on their friends and family. Simple as.
TL;DR content creators aren't unlike landlords - they want to make a single investment and continually suck money out of other people despite not contributing any continuous work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>in which the cost of all media spiralled down into cents on the dollar
Youtube, instagram, soundcloud, project gutenberg, pornhub.
How is anti-piracy rhetoric and conditioning so effective on normies
imagine being this young and edgy
I remember that article. The complaint was that search algorithms have gotten so fast that the main way zoomers interact with their computer, or at least files on their computer, is to just give it a memorable name and then use a global search to find it every time. As a 'zoomer' myself I can confirm, that's how I do it. My directorys are a mess, I just have a rigorous system of naming files so I can consistently find them later. Obviously I'm not moronic, I know how filesystems work I just find them less convenient, especially since like a lot of people my age I accumulate hundreds of gigs of files.
Despite that, pirating books is easy as shit. Libgen is common knowledge to anybody who has been around a college in the past 5 years. The kind of computer illiteracy endemic in my generation isn't the problem in this case, I really think it's something else. Normies take the rules seriously even when they're patently nonsensical and contradictory — I think that even makes it better for them. Finding a loophole in the rules is a kind of release for these people.
I'd suggest that American college textbooks are a COMPLETELY different thing that a solo author writing fiction.
>piracy immoral (or they just don't know how to do it), whereas something like this is just a perfectly valid loophole
It's amazing we're at a point where piracy is clearly a morally superior option.
I remember that article. The complaint was that search algorithms have gotten so fast that the main way zoomers interact with their computer, or at least files on their computer, is to just give it a memorable name and then use a global search to find it every time. As a 'zoomer' myself I can confirm, that's how I do it. My directorys are a mess, I just have a rigorous system of naming files so I can consistently find them later. Obviously I'm not moronic, I know how filesystems work I just find them less convenient, especially since like a lot of people my age I accumulate hundreds of gigs of files.
Despite that, pirating books is easy as shit. Libgen is common knowledge to anybody who has been around a college in the past 5 years. The kind of computer illiteracy endemic in my generation isn't the problem in this case, I really think it's something else. Normies take the rules seriously even when they're patently nonsensical and contradictory — I think that even makes it better for them. Finding a loophole in the rules is a kind of release for these people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Normies take the rules seriously even when they're patently nonsensical and contradictory — I think that even makes it better for them. Finding a loophole in the rules is a kind of release for these people.
Reminds me of where I live, New Zealand. Our culture used to be very macho, but it's been shown to be just a charade - we're purely a strongly peer pressure based society.
Without going full /misc/, I think the sociology behind the adoption of masks here is the perfect example of this. We got rid of covid until omicron, and nobody wore masks at all even while the first wave was eliminated. Government introduced mask rules - and people *slowly* adopted them (the fact it's slow is key - showing that it's an unfamiliarity with society's rule, not out of genuine concern). The laws for where you had to wear one and didn't need to were inconsistent. What did people do - consistently use it where it made logical sense? No, they just followed the rule to the letter.
Now the mandate has been ruled back, but people are acclimatized to that culture now. They still put on their masks as they enter a doorway with nobody on the other side, and take it off when they sit down. When there wasn't a mask mandate in place they wouldn't wear them - even if it was public and crammed. Now the rules over, people still feel dirty not wearing one when they're standing in a line in retail.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Without going full /misc/
homosexual. You wither go all the way or you go to reddit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
/pol/'s gotten worse and dumbed down over the years, and it was already pretty dumb. Sorry you're a moronic newbie 2016 boomer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>As a 'zoomer' myself
This is you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are they snorting drugs? DIY piercings?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Looks like the one guy got kicked in the face
2 years ago
Anonymous
Looks like they're getting rolled.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Looks like Russia. Which means the guy filming is probably telling them to take out their nose rings or he'll beat them up for being gay? That would be my guess.
2 years ago
Anonymous
SOVL
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think libgen is common knowledge at my university. It has been shared in class before, but I swear that I am the only student who pirates books in my classes. I see everyone with physical copies while I have a PDF on my computer.
t. a liberal arts student at a large public university, not a science student where the books are a fortune, but you're probably in the same boat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Obviously I'm not moronic >directorys >filesystems
Stay in school, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I know how filesystems work I just find them less convenient, especially since like a lot of people my age I accumulate hundreds of gigs of files.
Your argument for filesystems being less "convenient" is that you have a vast amount of disorganized files. Are you actually moronic anon?
normalgays are complete morons, they still use websites like fricking 123movies and the like to stream films and any time they find an opportunity to tell somebody else about it they act as if they're in on some grand secret. it's unfathomable but they think they're actually getting something good when they do it
I use 123movies and websites like that. You can find any movie or tv show in 1080p with subtitles available. What's the problem?
Oh no no no. Do you homies know what a BIT RATE is???? Sure if you want to watch "1080p" dogshit at 500kb/s you can stream from websites.
Clearly you lot are plebs if you don't know how to stream your torrents as they download.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a lot of extra work for less convenience
2 years ago
Anonymous
Its the same amount of work really. go to website, start torrent, stream as it downloads from the swarm.
The cool thing about P2P is that with a good swarm it can vastly outperform a single dedicated server for sharing content.
2 years ago
Anonymous
tbh i don't torrent simply because i can't do so over tor. and no, vpns are not anonymous.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at this pussy, it's like you don't want to impress the glowies with your fine taste in film.
My mom once freaked out when she caught me torrenting anime when I was 15 and told me I was putting our whole family at risk
Why not just pirate books like a normal person?
I'm a teacher and one of our book sections has a topic on music piracy.
Stories about poor artists going bankrupt because little Tim downloaded .mp3s instead of buying the album.
Some interview with Beyonce or other shitty mainstream singer crying about debts because bad pirates don't want to buy their shit.
Because it's not like they earn only 1% of album sales and the rest goes to producers etc, it's not like their 99.99% revenue comes from concerts, lmao
Musicians traditionally made their money by touring.
Downloaded music serves as advertising for their live performances.
2 years ago
Anonymous
With current gas, vehicle rental, food, and lodging prices, alot of musicians, even well-established ones, are losing money on tours right now. And this is on top of being ripped off by streaming
2 years ago
Anonymous
>traditionally
no. there was fair money for the artists in records during vynil times. then came a row of scams including advances (loans to invest for the artist), streaming (no income for the artist), 360 deals (payment cuts on every kind of income). this is why you may find more and more indie music and selfproduced local bands/singers/rappers. expect more indie art to come.
So, it's better for a musician to go the indie/self-produced route...
They shouldn't be publishing on amazon in the first place. You need to be a fricking moron if you publish your shit on amazon. It means that you're not good enough for normal traditional publishing. Self publishing is only worth if you're popular and it'll make you more money.
99.90% self published authors are just morons who couldn't make it but still want to be le writers
a well-written novel isn't sold on amazon by debut writers
a well-written novel is sent to an actual publishing house
...but if a writer does that, it's cringe?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s better for a writer financially to self publish but the standards are lower so a lot of self published books are dog shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
>traditionally
no. there was fair money for the artists in records during vynil times. then came a row of scams including advances (loans to invest for the artist), streaming (no income for the artist), 360 deals (payment cuts on every kind of income). this is why you may find more and more indie music and selfproduced local bands/singers/rappers. expect more indie art to come.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Advances are almost as old as recorded music. If you read about the rockstars of the 60s and 70s, they were mostly living in borrowed money in their early years. The difference is that back in the day people would have to buy the record, so it was easier to recoup the advance
What about me buying only used records? They get zero money from that too, but it's not 'piracy'.
I only support my local musicians anyway, I get season passes to the local orchestra and the opera house. That and my modest used record collection is all I need.
>Why not just pirate books
Because even though I don't have much money I want to support writers.
If you insist on being a selfish and immoral degenerate, that's on you.
If you're going to steal, don't steal from poor creative people.
This.
Last time I had a job I bought everything I pirated.
Also what the hell are they returning it for? It's not like normies are doing anything with the money. They're not investing.
not a day goes by without fuelling my rage for zoomers and this zoomer world. zoomer this, zoomer that. you would think that by now Millenials were in charge of things and making the earth less of a boomerfest, but absolutly fricking not. the market peddles to the zoomer's demand, the industry follows the zoomer's fetish. zoomers reign the world as a demographic solely via their adapted zoomer behavior in this disgusting zoomer world. zoomers could be here right now and it fricking disturbs me.
The entitlement of musicians and writers is unbelievable. Unless you're drake, Beyonce, rupi Kaur, jk Rowling Stephen King, etc. NOBODY CARES. very few people in the world are curious about the arts. selling books or ebooks was always a terrible business model when compared to Coca Cola or something.
If you truly cared about the medium you wouldn't be b***hing about money
>wanting to sell your product for more than literal 0$ is entitlement and b***hing
try taking their perspective for once. a well-written novel requires about 500+ work hours.
They shouldn't be publishing on amazon in the first place. You need to be a fricking moron if you publish your shit on amazon. It means that you're not good enough for normal traditional publishing. Self publishing is only worth if you're popular and it'll make you more money.
99.90% self published authors are just morons who couldn't make it but still want to be le writers
>normal traditional publishing
With the steaming piles of shit that you can find for sale in book stores nowadays I wouldn't really consider the publishers as capable judges of quality
you'd sooner find a good debut book on shelves after being accepted and professionally edited than a good debut book on amazon, almost all of them is random shit written by a no name 20 yo Julie who doesn't even read books
2 years ago
Anonymous
don't argue in bad faith, anon. it's easy to filter the trash on amazon and dig for gold. I've found a dozen good indie books.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Name them then
2 years ago
Anonymous
another time, anon, in a thread which will reek less of boiled blood
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alright, you got me there, I agree. I'm just saying that those same professional publishers are also green-lighting books that are at the same level as your average amazon self-publishers
>even if you manage to pass the gatekeepers who you should see with your own two eyes.
I wouldn't recommend it but if you're into liberal feminist israelite women then feast your eyes
These are unironcally the people in the american publishing industry who rejected your manuscript
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kek, could you imagine Marcus Aurelius or the likes being alive nowadays, writing their book and then try to publish them? I bet these homosexuals would reject their writings.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine Dostoevsky. kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tolstoy and Dostoevsky would both be rejected by all these women
2 years ago
Anonymous
His notes from underground would get BTFOd immediately lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
He was the emperor of the western world. Look at Obama’s book sales and compare the quality of the work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Almost every point is entirely subjective. Where is the diversity and representation in literary agents?
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is depressing. Is there any hope, aside from selfpublishing?
Anons, what are your plans?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>anon, what are your plans?
Getting my masters in English so I can get into the publishing industry and have the connections to get my stuff published. Playing the long game
2 years ago
Anonymous
>15:27 >problematic representation in the manuscript
Almost all of them mentioned representation and diversity
Almost every point is entirely subjective. Where is the diversity and representation in literary agents?
>Where is the diversity and representation in literary agents
Oy vey goyim stop noticing, rules for thee but not for me
This is depressing. Is there any hope, aside from selfpublishing?
Anons, what are your plans?
>Anons, what are your plans?
Write under a female pen name and just have your sister or mom or wife handle the public figure stuff.
Alternatively you can submit a manuscript with a facade of liberal propaganda which is what they want to hear but then the underlying message and morals have nothing to do with it.
It always baffled me. If I had a choice to have the same readership as Stephen King but make zero money, or have a small readership and make some money, I'd pick the bigger audience over bigger sales.
This. >even though i'm a midwit who pinches off literary goyslop every 3 months for a cheap get rich quick scheme and has nothing interesting to say and barely spellchecked it, i deserve instant millions and to be able to quit my job and live in a mansion in paris eating lobster the rest of my life, because i showed up
even good authors had to work day jobs and these prostitutes think they deserve to make a living writing low effort chick-lit and /sffg/
These fricking tiktok homosexuals are going to force Amazon to close the return book mechanism that I've used to get hundreds of books. Little c**ts. Why can't people just keep things to themselves? Zoomers and their need for attention...
I pirate because libraries don't carry much anymore.
Piracy is the new library.
If I like something, I'll buy a copy.
If I really like something, I'll buy a new copy.
Lmao I literally “invented” this loophole and now a bunch of illiterate moron zoomers are going to frick it up for everyone by fricking over their lame self published YA writers.
>n00oooo i am le hecking starving artist
so am i but at least i admit i deserve to be poor because i cant get a real job because all i have is "creativity"
Information wants to be, in both senses of the word
The internet is being privatized, corporations are putting up paywalls to block off content.
Frick gatekeepers, censorship is undemocratic and tyrannical.
Do your part and fight back by torrenting my fellow pirates >>>/t/
Why not just pirate books like a normal person?
Real normies consider piracy immoral (or they just don't know how to do it), whereas something like this is just a perfectly valid loophole to be exploited
How is anti-piracy rhetoric and conditioning so effective on normies
My mom once freaked out when she caught me torrenting anime when I was 15 and told me I was putting our whole family at risk
you did, but torrenting was not the problem here
kek thank you anon
Keked
I mentioned to my grandmother that I was banned from Reddit once and she thought it meant the FBI had caught me doing something illegal. I don't know if telling the prostitutes on r/selfie to post breasts counts as illegal, but I'm pretty sure it's not prison-tier harassment
>I mentioned to my grandmother that I was banned from Reddit
This is the most baffling part of this post
Not really. Your grandmother could be the age of a standard mother and the person who raised you. You could get banned from reddit a few minutes earlier, go to the kitchen to eat something, and then, grandma asks what you've been up to, to which you respond you've been banned from reddit. Another possibility is that you could have shown your grandma something from reddit after you found something interesting or were asked to see what you were looking at. When you show the thing, you talk about the site, grandma is interested, and that's that, but a few months later, she asks about reddit. It's all pretty normal until you get to the part where you frick your grandma, which is an optional step you don't have to take.
A child who watches anime is always a risk to the family's honor.
>How is anti-piracy rhetoric and conditioning so effective on normies
They have a moral compass?
i have one of those and it points to my dick
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
If they had, they would pirate. Artificially creating scarcity is evil.
How are creators supposed to benefit then?
People would rather listen to corporations on how to act rather than themselves
But it's not? Plenty of normies share passwords for streaming services.
They don't think that counts
That's just another legal loophole
Fundamentally a change should have taken place when virtual media became a thing in which the cost of all media spiralled down into cents on the dollar, reflecting the fact that you can mass produce it infinitely and in effect, infinite copies exist, and thus each individual copy is effectively worthless and everyone should be allowed to download it for the pittance that the bandwidth cost.
Unfortunately as with most intellectual property, the creators of the content aren't doing it to create content but so that they can continually milk profit from work done once and sit on their laurels, so you have to convince people that a digital copy of a game or a movie is worth $60 despite no longer even having the five-cent CD ROM, and then have them help enforce that on their friends and family. Simple as.
TL;DR content creators aren't unlike landlords - they want to make a single investment and continually suck money out of other people despite not contributing any continuous work.
>in which the cost of all media spiralled down into cents on the dollar
Youtube, instagram, soundcloud, project gutenberg, pornhub.
>normies
You answered yourself.
imagine being this young and edgy
I'd suggest that American college textbooks are a COMPLETELY different thing that a solo author writing fiction.
piracy is a moral obligation
>piracy immoral (or they just don't know how to do it), whereas something like this is just a perfectly valid loophole
It's amazing we're at a point where piracy is clearly a morally superior option.
not everything (esp. self-pubbed shit) is available
Most zoomers don't know how to pirate and they have no intention of learning since they have no familiarity with computers.
There was an article complaining that zoomers can't understand file directories because they mostly use smartphones
I remember that article. The complaint was that search algorithms have gotten so fast that the main way zoomers interact with their computer, or at least files on their computer, is to just give it a memorable name and then use a global search to find it every time. As a 'zoomer' myself I can confirm, that's how I do it. My directorys are a mess, I just have a rigorous system of naming files so I can consistently find them later. Obviously I'm not moronic, I know how filesystems work I just find them less convenient, especially since like a lot of people my age I accumulate hundreds of gigs of files.
Despite that, pirating books is easy as shit. Libgen is common knowledge to anybody who has been around a college in the past 5 years. The kind of computer illiteracy endemic in my generation isn't the problem in this case, I really think it's something else. Normies take the rules seriously even when they're patently nonsensical and contradictory — I think that even makes it better for them. Finding a loophole in the rules is a kind of release for these people.
>Normies take the rules seriously even when they're patently nonsensical and contradictory — I think that even makes it better for them. Finding a loophole in the rules is a kind of release for these people.
Reminds me of where I live, New Zealand. Our culture used to be very macho, but it's been shown to be just a charade - we're purely a strongly peer pressure based society.
Without going full /misc/, I think the sociology behind the adoption of masks here is the perfect example of this. We got rid of covid until omicron, and nobody wore masks at all even while the first wave was eliminated. Government introduced mask rules - and people *slowly* adopted them (the fact it's slow is key - showing that it's an unfamiliarity with society's rule, not out of genuine concern). The laws for where you had to wear one and didn't need to were inconsistent. What did people do - consistently use it where it made logical sense? No, they just followed the rule to the letter.
Now the mandate has been ruled back, but people are acclimatized to that culture now. They still put on their masks as they enter a doorway with nobody on the other side, and take it off when they sit down. When there wasn't a mask mandate in place they wouldn't wear them - even if it was public and crammed. Now the rules over, people still feel dirty not wearing one when they're standing in a line in retail.
>Without going full /misc/
homosexual. You wither go all the way or you go to reddit.
/pol/'s gotten worse and dumbed down over the years, and it was already pretty dumb. Sorry you're a moronic newbie 2016 boomer.
>As a 'zoomer' myself
This is you.
Are they snorting drugs? DIY piercings?
Looks like the one guy got kicked in the face
Looks like they're getting rolled.
Looks like Russia. Which means the guy filming is probably telling them to take out their nose rings or he'll beat them up for being gay? That would be my guess.
SOVL
I don't think libgen is common knowledge at my university. It has been shared in class before, but I swear that I am the only student who pirates books in my classes. I see everyone with physical copies while I have a PDF on my computer.
t. a liberal arts student at a large public university, not a science student where the books are a fortune, but you're probably in the same boat.
>Obviously I'm not moronic
>directorys
>filesystems
Stay in school, moron.
>I know how filesystems work I just find them less convenient, especially since like a lot of people my age I accumulate hundreds of gigs of files.
Your argument for filesystems being less "convenient" is that you have a vast amount of disorganized files. Are you actually moronic anon?
the boomer has come home to roost
I'm a broke zoomer and I figured out how to pirate on 2010 YouTube
this. technology use is at an all time high and the masses can't do anything more complicated than clicking links
normalgays are complete morons, they still use websites like fricking 123movies and the like to stream films and any time they find an opportunity to tell somebody else about it they act as if they're in on some grand secret. it's unfathomable but they think they're actually getting something good when they do it
What's wrong with 123movies? Torrenting takes to long for movie's I don't want to keep
>virgin 123movies
>chad fmovies
Oh no no no. Do you homies know what a BIT RATE is???? Sure if you want to watch "1080p" dogshit at 500kb/s you can stream from websites.
Clearly you lot are plebs if you don't know how to stream your torrents as they download.
Sounds like a lot of extra work for less convenience
Its the same amount of work really. go to website, start torrent, stream as it downloads from the swarm.
The cool thing about P2P is that with a good swarm it can vastly outperform a single dedicated server for sharing content.
tbh i don't torrent simply because i can't do so over tor. and no, vpns are not anonymous.
Look at this pussy, it's like you don't want to impress the glowies with your fine taste in film.
I use 123movies and websites like that. You can find any movie or tv show in 1080p with subtitles available. What's the problem?
I'm a teacher and one of our book sections has a topic on music piracy.
Stories about poor artists going bankrupt because little Tim downloaded .mp3s instead of buying the album.
Some interview with Beyonce or other shitty mainstream singer crying about debts because bad pirates don't want to buy their shit.
Because it's not like they earn only 1% of album sales and the rest goes to producers etc, it's not like their 99.99% revenue comes from concerts, lmao
Musicians traditionally made their money by touring.
Downloaded music serves as advertising for their live performances.
With current gas, vehicle rental, food, and lodging prices, alot of musicians, even well-established ones, are losing money on tours right now. And this is on top of being ripped off by streaming
So, it's better for a musician to go the indie/self-produced route...
...but if a writer does that, it's cringe?
It’s better for a writer financially to self publish but the standards are lower so a lot of self published books are dog shit
>traditionally
no. there was fair money for the artists in records during vynil times. then came a row of scams including advances (loans to invest for the artist), streaming (no income for the artist), 360 deals (payment cuts on every kind of income). this is why you may find more and more indie music and selfproduced local bands/singers/rappers. expect more indie art to come.
Advances are almost as old as recorded music. If you read about the rockstars of the 60s and 70s, they were mostly living in borrowed money in their early years. The difference is that back in the day people would have to buy the record, so it was easier to recoup the advance
What about me buying only used records? They get zero money from that too, but it's not 'piracy'.
I only support my local musicians anyway, I get season passes to the local orchestra and the opera house. That and my modest used record collection is all I need.
I only use 123movies when I want to watch comfy kino on my phone on bed.
Because I'm not a poorgay.
Libgen mustard race, also based mega
I dont read on a screen lol
>Why not just pirate books
Because even though I don't have much money I want to support writers.
If you insist on being a selfish and immoral degenerate, that's on you.
If you're going to steal, don't steal from poor creative people.
There's no such thing as ethical consumption under globohomo. Just send the author some monero if you actually care that much.
So little people give a shit about these authors you can't even find their epubs online
did you try searching for .pbuhs
Underrated
This.
Last time I had a job I bought everything I pirated.
Also what the hell are they returning it for? It's not like normies are doing anything with the money. They're not investing.
Nothing that isn't in the public domain already is worth reading anyway.
Doing this to BAP so he goes bankrupt
You’re doing god’s work anon
that's a good idea. We should all do it to that Alligator guy too. You know the one.
Why can you return an e book that’s moronic. Like what does it arrive damaged when you download it?
Jump into the welfare program and you can write 24/7.
already in one
also wanted to say I have a bandcamp with my own music yet I pirate off bandcamp constantly
If you don't give them an option to read your book for free, this is what happens.
not a day goes by without fuelling my rage for zoomers and this zoomer world. zoomer this, zoomer that. you would think that by now Millenials were in charge of things and making the earth less of a boomerfest, but absolutly fricking not. the market peddles to the zoomer's demand, the industry follows the zoomer's fetish. zoomers reign the world as a demographic solely via their adapted zoomer behavior in this disgusting zoomer world. zoomers could be here right now and it fricking disturbs me.
Zoomers are cringe, but millenials are likely the worst generation to ever walk the earth, so it's good they were skipped.
The entitlement of musicians and writers is unbelievable. Unless you're drake, Beyonce, rupi Kaur, jk Rowling Stephen King, etc. NOBODY CARES. very few people in the world are curious about the arts. selling books or ebooks was always a terrible business model when compared to Coca Cola or something.
If you truly cared about the medium you wouldn't be b***hing about money
Most people need to pay rent and gas and electricity and, well, food. It used to easier because you didn't need to pay 1000 bucks for one room.
Work
>wanting to sell your product for more than literal 0$ is entitlement and b***hing
try taking their perspective for once. a well-written novel requires about 500+ work hours.
a well-written novel isn't sold on amazon by debut writers
a well-written novel is sent to an actual publishing house
>absolutism
This is how you know you're a IQfy pseud.
They shouldn't be publishing on amazon in the first place. You need to be a fricking moron if you publish your shit on amazon. It means that you're not good enough for normal traditional publishing. Self publishing is only worth if you're popular and it'll make you more money.
99.90% self published authors are just morons who couldn't make it but still want to be le writers
>normal traditional publishing
With the steaming piles of shit that you can find for sale in book stores nowadays I wouldn't really consider the publishers as capable judges of quality
you'd sooner find a good debut book on shelves after being accepted and professionally edited than a good debut book on amazon, almost all of them is random shit written by a no name 20 yo Julie who doesn't even read books
don't argue in bad faith, anon. it's easy to filter the trash on amazon and dig for gold. I've found a dozen good indie books.
Name them then
another time, anon, in a thread which will reek less of boiled blood
Alright, you got me there, I agree. I'm just saying that those same professional publishers are also green-lighting books that are at the same level as your average amazon self-publishers
going tradpub has many downsides, even if you manage to pass the gatekeepers who you should see with your own two eyes.
>even if you manage to pass the gatekeepers who you should see with your own two eyes.
I wouldn't recommend it but if you're into liberal feminist israelite women then feast your eyes
These are unironcally the people in the american publishing industry who rejected your manuscript
Kek, could you imagine Marcus Aurelius or the likes being alive nowadays, writing their book and then try to publish them? I bet these homosexuals would reject their writings.
Imagine Dostoevsky. kek
Tolstoy and Dostoevsky would both be rejected by all these women
His notes from underground would get BTFOd immediately lmao
He was the emperor of the western world. Look at Obama’s book sales and compare the quality of the work.
Almost every point is entirely subjective. Where is the diversity and representation in literary agents?
This is depressing. Is there any hope, aside from selfpublishing?
Anons, what are your plans?
>anon, what are your plans?
Getting my masters in English so I can get into the publishing industry and have the connections to get my stuff published. Playing the long game
>15:27
>problematic representation in the manuscript
Almost all of them mentioned representation and diversity
>Where is the diversity and representation in literary agents
Oy vey goyim stop noticing, rules for thee but not for me
>Anons, what are your plans?
Write under a female pen name and just have your sister or mom or wife handle the public figure stuff.
Alternatively you can submit a manuscript with a facade of liberal propaganda which is what they want to hear but then the underlying message and morals have nothing to do with it.
You're a fricking moron. Traditional publishing is one of the biggest scams out there.
>traditional writing is a scam
>self-published authors literally lose money on their books
blackpiled again
Self-publishing shit like
and losing a few dollars is nothing.
It always baffled me. If I had a choice to have the same readership as Stephen King but make zero money, or have a small readership and make some money, I'd pick the bigger audience over bigger sales.
This, if I ever wrote somethingI would be happy about people reading it, if you want money work a real job.
it's very easy for you to show the kind of butthole you are on here. that is your only contribution to the arts
This.
>even though i'm a midwit who pinches off literary goyslop every 3 months for a cheap get rich quick scheme and has nothing interesting to say and barely spellchecked it, i deserve instant millions and to be able to quit my job and live in a mansion in paris eating lobster the rest of my life, because i showed up
even good authors had to work day jobs and these prostitutes think they deserve to make a living writing low effort chick-lit and /sffg/
IQfy is fascinating to me because in general the posters are stuck in a time warp yet insist they have their fingers on the pulse of online society.
>do you even know what the hep cats on tiktok are doing
No, now get in the chamber
Yeah man that IQfy guy sure has it all figured out. LOL man that guy sure does make good jokes!
We don't insist that at all. We're very open about being out of touch and yearning for the halcyon days of 10-20 years ago
These fricking tiktok homosexuals are going to force Amazon to close the return book mechanism that I've used to get hundreds of books. Little c**ts. Why can't people just keep things to themselves? Zoomers and their need for attention...
It's literally this frogpost but real
Prophetic post lmao
shows that im getting old. i didnt know anti-piracy was a thing among normies now
I fricking remember when everybody at school used limewire. Wtf.
>tfw copyisraelites won
I pirate because I’m a Marxist and frick crapitalism
I pirate because libraries don't carry much anymore.
Piracy is the new library.
If I like something, I'll buy a copy.
If I really like something, I'll buy a new copy.
I feel kind of sorry for her. Makes me want to get one of her books.
And return it right?
Actively losing money on a self-published novel is probably a sign that you don't have what it takes.
>write and publish shitty books
>get charged for it
based. server space isn't free, prostitute.
don't return ebooks you've read. which one of you guys is doing this
I legitimately do not even know how to purchase e-books because I have simply always pirated.
Lmao I literally “invented” this loophole and now a bunch of illiterate moron zoomers are going to frick it up for everyone by fricking over their lame self published YA writers.
>n00oooo i am le hecking starving artist
so am i but at least i admit i deserve to be poor because i cant get a real job because all i have is "creativity"
Imagine selling your book on Amazon.
There, there. I'm sure you'll sell a copy someday.
Probably not bruv, I ain't giving Bezos my sheckles.
At least they write, unlike IQfy.
the books in question
I don't know why I expected any different
who would pay for this? Ao3 and Wattpad are already free
Information wants to be, in both senses of the word
The internet is being privatized, corporations are putting up paywalls to block off content.
Frick gatekeepers, censorship is undemocratic and tyrannical.
Do your part and fight back by torrenting my fellow pirates
>>>/t/