>Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say
This is bullshit, the problem with saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say is obviously that if you say that, you just said something. So the comparably stupid thing to do would be to HIDE that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide, not to ARGUE it.
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You're just saying that because you can't honestly say I'm wrong
fpbp.
OP is moronic
I know metaphor is hard, you'll get it one day champ.
Tell that to Snowden, he's the one whose false analogy I just shot down
This shit is HILARIOUS I trust snowden much more now
https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=11637280$p11637280
>In an online discussion about racism in 2009, Snowden said: ''I went to London just last year it's where all of your muslims live I didn't want to get out of the car. I thought I had gotten off of the plane in the wrong country... it was terrifying.''
>In a January 2009 entry, TheTrueHOOHA exhibited strong support for the U.S. security state apparatus and said leakers of classified information "should be shot in the balls."
>Snowden was also offended by a possible ban on assault weapons, writing "Me and all my lunatic, gun-toting NRA compatriots would be on the steps of Congress before the C-Span feed finished."
fricking lol'd
>the problem with saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say is obviously that if you say that, you just said something
Anon... you aren't REALLY arguing semantics against a statement conveying a metaphor... are you? You know he didn't literally mean "you can never open your mouth"... right?
But what other problem is there with saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say?
Seems sane to me other than that you have to say something to say that
You are dumb, but for a serious answer he does care about free speech which is why he is saying that. The "nothing to say" doesn't mean every word that exits your lips, its meant to imply you have no strong opinions or convictions and thus you have no stake in the free speech debate and therefore have no right to argue against it.
>The "nothing to say" doesn't mean every word that exits your lips, its meant to imply you have no strong opinions or convictions and thus you have no stake in the free speech debate
Ok fair,
>and therefore have no right to argue against it.
why not tho
>why not tho
Because it hardly matters if you have an opinion on something when you have no experience with it, no stake in it, and it doesn't affect you if it exists or not.
But it still matters if you have an opinion on it if YOU can affect IT, doesn't it?
Shut the frick up, then.
this is a bad thread.
you should feel bad.
I feel nothing but burg
Can someone give a good reason as to why it is morally wrong for the government to violate privacy for the greater good? I'm trying to write an essay arguing that it's bad for the government to do so, but I keep sounding like a rambling schizoid.
Government is bad, period. It's not okay for them to exist.
Can someone give a good reason as to why it is morally wrong for the government to exist? I'm trying to write an essay arguing that it's bad for the government to do so, but I keep sounding like a rambling schizoid.
They rob you of your hard-earned money and use paid thugs to extract it from you, while also telling you what you can and can't do arbitrarily. I should be able to do whatever the frick I want and keep every cent I make.
>inb4 so you support murder
Small communities can still have basic rules (natural laws) against heinous crimes, and I do support dueling if both parties agree to it.
>why is it bad for an oligarch authoritarian to know everything about me.
ngmi
This guy already wrote your paper for you.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
people in the government who hate you on a personal level could use their power against you
"the greater good" sounds like some cartoon villain justification
whos to say they truly have good intentions? whos to say they wont ever become corrupt and abuse all the information they gather on people either by using it to manipulate them or attack them on a more personal level if they're someone like snowden, if they're not already corrupt? (they are)
OP, you are gay and moronic.
Sorry my burg is too loud for me to hear you..... it's ok though since i don't care about your speech because i have nothing to say.... shit i just said something
Are you autistic?
that's just how authoritarians communicate.
they want the government to mandate strap-on buttfricking.
>muh buttstrapping
You' havent written conpiler!
Oh no you just said something!
free speech is a voluntary breach of privacy
OP, I know who you are.
lol ya thats me in the pic
How do you feel about
>Not caring about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than not caring about free speech because you have nothing to say.
Makes sense to me!
Why is that bad tho
maybe someday you'll find something to say, but you won't be able to say it because of laws and shit
But if i don't believe i'll ever have anything to say, and don't respect other people who have something to say, why shouldn't i fight free speech?
Well you'd be exercising your right to free expression by expressing your lack of respect for freedom of expression and desire to limit it. So you'd be saying something right there.
But what if i openly concede i'd be a hypocrite to do so, but simply don't think hypocrisy is bad
Based hypocrisy is not like smelly free speech after all....
Then let's imagine you live in a hypocritical society where freedom of speech is an absolute and anyone who disagrees is put to death.
Based.... There would be no free speech in that society.... A utopia
There would be "free speech" unless you're expressing the idea that free speech is bad. For you see we can't have free speech if there are evil people such as yourself who might use free speech to damage free speech.
>There would be "free speech" unless you're expressing the idea that free speech is bad
But that's not free speech
So the evil people still win......
>So the evil people still win
Now you're getting it.
But I am the evil people
In a world where people can't freely criticize free speech i still get what i want
(You)
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic
You don't get to say most of what you've said in this thread. Posts that you made, presumably out of some desire to express yourself.
sounds based
Then why did you say any of it?
because doing things i advocate for myself not being allowed to do is blatantly hypocritical
and hypocrisy is also based
I suppose the right to free expression is in a sense the right to be a hypocrite. You're definitely not the only person who uses it for that.
uh
well that's not most people
you're strange
>But if i don't believe i'll ever have anything to say, and don't respect other people who have something to say, why shouldn't i fight free speech?
Nobody who hates free speech, or any freedom, does anything. They suck air. The most they do is get manipulated by sycophants; they do nothing. Nobody cares what a tool wants. What are you going to do if free men ignore you? Bleed on them?
But i hate freedom and i look like that and i say that
>But i hate freedom
Then get the frick out of this website. You do not belong here.
But how can that be true when in fact i look like these and i say these
If you didn't have the freedom to do things then you wouldn't be posting here in the first place, plus you do not have any common sense and basically fricking moronic and stupid to be here in the first place.
I.... I look like this..... A--And I say this..... And............
Blah Blah Blah Shut the frick up. NOBODY CARES
Oh.... That's a man with a gun.
I don't look like that. I say that though
Go back to >>>IQfy where YOU Belong. I don't Care what your opinions are. Nobody Does, Now Leave.
He is so habdsome
People who care about freedom care because they do things and want to continue doing things. People who don't care about freedom don't care because they don't do things and want to continue not doing things. In this reality, freedom is inevitable because free people will *always* delete slaves.
I don't get it. Can someone explain OP's argument in a more understandable fashion. Thank you.
-Anon
OP thought he just hit an important realization and came here to enlighten us
bad thread
Ok wel priavcy and free spech are still bad
Yes, no one should have either 'till they have something worthy to say, a r9k pumped to the max, A CHAN OF THE TRULY KINO GODDAMIT
on the same tier as:
>murdering men is wrong
>what about women?!?
Oh hey you're the polchud who god mad when i pointed out everyone here is a pedophile lol
keyed and truthful
kys tranipedo
Pretty sure i'm the only non-pedo here
Bet you all like dicky
You're not allowed to make those accusations, you're the animeposter here.
Yeah ok dicky lover, i know you have e-girl body pillows
Meanwhile i am as far from a pedophile as you can get
return to the plane of hell from which you came
Wrong board
Really needed some (You)s today, huh?
You have to be 18 to post here
Wow you really did something