society of the spectacle

So I've read the book and i get it for the most part but there are 2 parts that confuse me. Firstly I got kinda lost during the chapter about culture and modern art can someone dumb that down for me? Secondly what exactly are the solutions that are proposed in this book

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Secondly what exactly are the solutions that are proposed in this book
    You tell us, haven't you read the damn book after all?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      He criticizes neoliberalism capitalism stalinism fascism' orthodox marxism trocskysm anarchism in all forms leninism even unions. And I can't disagree with him on the critiques but the solutions were far and few between and the ones he does give like worker coops could easily fall into the same traps as the unions. I guess his take near the end about schizophremia and ideologies is a very fair point mow that I've actually sat and thought about it I made this post as soon as I read the book

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This one is just some outdated 60's communist drivel, read his "comments on the society of the spectacle".

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks I'll read that next. Also is the movie worth checking out?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >comments on the society of the spectacle
      comments are indeed way better, and easier to read. Society of Spectacle is written in such a pseud intellectual way, it's so annoying. Also, since it's a marxist claiming for revolution text, it would make more sense to be written in a easy way, so workers could read and understand.
      >Searle translates Foucault’s admission to him this way: “In France, you gotta have ten percent incomprehensible, otherwise people won’t think it’s deep–they won’t think you’re a profound thinker.”

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >claiming for revolution
        wasnt the point that successful revolutionaries dissolve into the spectacle?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are correct but I don't really agree. Tbh Camus, Foscault abd Sartre are p easy to understand at least front what I've read from them. French cinena at the time tho now that was pure pseud shit but I can't help but love it

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        filtered like a bird against the window.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are none, he was a suicidal hylic

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did the transgender community just discover the word hylic?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The hylic is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a normie, commoner, provincial, materialist, pagan, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a hylic and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Try to get some more meme speak in there next time and maybe it will be funny

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Shit. I thought it was just me. I was about to go button hole some kid to tell me what the frick that guy just said.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Shit. I thought it was just me. I was about to go button hole some kid to tell me what the frick that guy just said.

            You unread fools.

            The hylic is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a normie, commoner, provincial, materialist, pagan, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a hylic and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"

            is a famous, hundred year old quote, except for one word. Go read a book.

            In this case, Mein Kampf.

            I’m a biological dude with a goatee butthole

            It's pretty funny how he felt the need to clarify that he's a man with a goatee and not, in fact, trans.

            He meant a goatse butthole. There are limits to degeneracy after all.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m a biological dude with a goatee butthole

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's pretty funny how he felt the need to clarify that he's a man with a goatee and not, in fact, trans.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hylic
      > The basest type of man
      Yeah im thinking hes based

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Debord wasn’t a hylic, he actually had many of the same correct intuitions about modern society as Lasch, Ellul, Guenon, Evola, but he framed them in the Marxist thought that he was immersed in.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i find weird the way this guy writes. writing a whole book in topics is kinda odd.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was def written is a pseud ga way but I found it charming. Idk why I find french postmodernism charming in general even tho it's either pseud shit, degen shit or so simple anyone could have written it but maybe that's what makes it more human for a lack of a better term in a way. At least to me

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    First half is trash, it's the sections on Art that are interesting. Read Ellul for proper exposition. Also that translation is trash; find the one online sanctioned by the author himself.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Debord and the situationists in general don't translate well at all.

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