If you talk to a layman about American/African black history, they will probably try and parrot the fantasy of a historically unique oppression of blacks that warrants current social politics. So try again.
Since 1989, whites receive on average 36% more callbacks than African Americans, and 24% more callbacks than Latinos. We observe no change in the level of hiring discrimination against African Americans over the past 25 years… Accounting for applicant education, applicant gender, study method, occupational groups, and local labor market conditions does little to alter this result. Contrary to claims of declining discrimination in American society, our estimates suggest that levels of discrimination remain largely unchanged, at least at the point of hire.
http://m.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870.full
The authors responded to more than 1,300 employment ads in the sales, administrative support, clerical, and customer services job categories, sending out nearly 5,000 resumes. The ads covered a large spectrum of job quality, from cashier work at retail establishments and clerical work in a mailroom to office and sales management positions.
The results indicate large racial differences in callback rates to a phone line with a voice mailbox attached and a message recorded by someone of the appropriate race and gender. Job applicants with white names needed to send about 10 resumes to get one callback; those with African-American names needed to send around 15 resumes to get one callback... It indicates that a white name yields as many more callbacks as an additional eight years of experience.
http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
Black-white residential segregation, while on the decline, still persists at high levels in most US metropolitan areas… Recent evidence suggests that household-level socioeconomic and demographic characteristics explain only a small proportion of the racial differences in location choices. Racial processes such as prejudice and housing market discrimination continue to drive black-white segregation patterns.
This article analyzes sentencing outcomes for black and white men in Georgia. The analysis uses sentencing data collected by the Georgia Department of Corrections (GDC). Among first-time offenders, both the race-only models and race and skin color models estimate that, on average, blacks receive sentences that are 4.25 percent higher than those of whites even after controlling for legally-relevant factors such as the type of crime.
Although there exists a large and well-documented “race gap” between whites and blacks in their support for the death penalty, we know relatively little about the nature of these differences and how the races respond to various arguments against the penalty… whites, who are highly resistant to persuasion and, in the case of the racial argument, actually become more supportive of the death penalty upon learning that it discriminates against blacks…
Controlling for a wide array of factors, we found that in cases involving a White victim, the more stereotypically Black a defendant is perceived to be, the more likely that person is to be sentenced to death.
Empirical studies of the death penalty continue to find that the race and gender of homicide victims are associated with the severity of legal responses in homicide cases even after controlling for legally relevant factors… In particular, we empirically test the hypothesis that defendants convicted of killing white females are significantly more likely to receive death sentences than killers of victims with other race-gender characteristics. Findings indicate that homicides with white female victims were more likely to result in death sentences than other victim race-gender dyads.
This paper assesses whether Blacks and Hispanics are disadvantaged at the sentencing phase of the justice system and whether the findings depend on the use of traditional regression-based methods to control for legally relevant variables vs. the use of precision matching methods, which attend to potential sample selection bias that occurs when there are not exact matches for those sentenced to incarceration and non-incarceration. Analysis of the population of Florida offenders from 1994 to 2006 using both methodologies indicates that Black offenders continue to be disproportionately incarcerated compared to White or Hispanic offenders, and that Hispanic offenders were slightly more likely than White offenders to be incarcerated.
Using unique data on misdemeanor marijuana cases, this study examines the impact of defendants’ race on prosecutors’ decisions to make (a) plea offers for a lesser charge and (b) sentence offers for non-custodial punishments. Preliminary findings indicated that black defendants were less likely to receive reduced charge offers, and both black and Latino defendants were more likely to receive custodial sentence offers. However, these disparities were largely explained by legal factors, evidence, arrest circumstances, and court actor characteristics, though black defendants were still more likely to receive custodial sentence offers after including these controls
Recent studies by police departments and researchers confirm that police stop persons of racial and ethnic minority groups more often than whites relative to their proportions in the population… In this article we analyze data from 125,000 pedestrian stops by the New York Police Department over a 15-month period… We find that persons of African and Hispanic descent were stopped more frequently than whites, even after controlling for precinct variability and race-specific estimates of crime participation.
Although Medicare provides beneficiaries with primary access to the health care system, racial/ethnic disparities in health care experiences and preventive care are well documented in the Medicare population… In the absence of major health problems, whites have better overall access to care than other Medicare beneficiaries.
African Americans and Hispanics traditionally have faced many barriers that limit their access to and choice of housing. During summer and fall 2000, local fair housing organizations conducted 4,600 paired tests across 20 major metropolitan areas nationwide. These surveys directly compared real estate or rental offices' treatment of African Americans and Hispanics to that of whites. The study finds that disparate treatment discrimination in rental and owner-occupied housing markets persists...
This paper tests for racial discrimination in the rental housing market using matched-pair audits conducted via e-mail for rental units advertised on-line… Generally, discrimination occurs against African American names… Racial discrimination is more severe in neighborhoods that are near “tipping points” in racial composition, and for units that are part of a larger building.
Rapid actions to persons holding weapons were simulated using desktop virtual reality… Signal detection analyses revealed two race effects that led to Blacks being incorrectly shot at more than Whites: a perceptual sensitivity effect (when held by Blacks guns were less distinguishable from harmless objects) and a response bias effect (objects held by Blacks were more likely to be treated as guns).
Research shows that participants shoot armed Blacks more frequently and quickly than armed Whites, but make don't-shoot responses more frequently and quickly for unarmed Whites than unarmed Blacks. We argue that this bias reflects the perception of threat — specifically, threat associated with Black males.
The current work examined police officers' decisions to shoot Black and White criminal suspects in a computer simulation. Responses to the simulation revealed that upon initial exposure to the program, the officers were more likely to mistakenly shoot unarmed Black compared with unarmed White suspects.
Police officers were compared with community members in terms of the speed and accuracy with which they made simulated decisions to shoot (or not shoot) Black and White targets. Both samples exhibited robust racial bias in response speed
http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2007-07951-004
Participants were exposed to a crime story embedded in a newscast… Afterward, participants were asked the likelihood that the depicted officer and perpetrator were either White or Black. In addition, participants were asked how positively they viewed the officer who was featured in the story. Results revealed that race unidentified perpetrators were rated as having a high likelihood of being Black. In addition, heavy news viewers were more likely than light news viewers to express a high likelihood that the unidentified officer was White. Finally, heavy news viewers were more likely than light news viewers to have positive perceptions of unidentified officers, but not of Black officers featured in a newscast.
We conclude that disparities in military allocations of goods and burdens sometimes disadvantage racial minorities. This conclusion rests on a review of institutional analyses in five arenas to which researchers have paid close attention: racial patterns in enlistment, officer promotion rates, administration of military justice, risk of death in combat, and health care for wounded soldiers. Although not a direct or intended result of military policy and practice, in three of five cases there was evidence of racial bias and institutional racism.
The results show that white respondents who saw an image of an African American voter and poll worker expressed greater support for voter id laws than those in the no image condition, even after controlling for the significant effects of racial resentment and political ideology. Exposure to an image of a white voter and poll worker did not produce a similar effect. The findings provide new evidence that public opinion about voter ID laws is racialized
hrough the use of a unique dataset from the 2006 elections, we analyze the impact that voter identification laws have on immigrant and minority voters in California, New Mexico and Washington... Because our data reflects the identification trends of actual voters, not just adult citizens, the findings go far to suggest that voter identification laws could immediately disenfranchise many Latino, Asian and African American citizens.
Because voter-identification laws discourage voter turnout, particularly among identifiable minority groups, their implementation abridges a fundamental constitutional right. The U.S. Constitution includes a little-known remedy for denying or abridging the right to vote that reduces a state's congressional representation in proportion to the extent of the abridgements
>all these cringe replies
Do any of (you) (the one person replying lol) really believe that Blacks are exactly likes Whites, and Blacks are just as emotionally intelligent, just as smart, and just as capable, and that any time a minority is 'less likely' to get something or more likely to be killed it's because of SECRET INTERNALIZED RACISM? So sad, I feel bad for (you).
I distinctly remember my dad telling me that Russia was only large during the USSR and that Russia after the USSR was actually a really small country. I don't know why I have this memory because it seems too moronic for him to say, yet its there. Pic related is how big I remember thinking Russia was, with a memory of a map where Russia was about that size.
Doubtful, I remember it was because we saw a map with the USSR on it and him saying that Russia wasn't that big any more, and that Russia was actually a small country. It's a baffling memory but genuinely influenced my interpretation of Russia as a kid.
Probably, same probably happened when I remember seeing a section in a book about the Crimean war and seeing a helicopter in it and thought the Crimean war was fought with cannons but also helicopters. And this wasn't me mixing it up with 2014 since this was like back in the 90's or early 00's.
You were probably looking at an old map or globe and your father pointed out that Russia is simply smaller than the USSR due to the fact that it had the Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, and Central Asia in it.
I remember a teacher saying that Russia isn't the biggest country in the world anymore after the USSRs collapse and that China was bigger.
That is absolute bullshit, Russia is still by far the biggest country.
Somehow it makes me mad when teachers talk moronic garbage they never fact-checked and believe is true, because a) they're spreading stupidity on the planet and b) they're authority figures and should be even better educated than the average pleb. I'm not a teacher and would never make moronic mistakes like that.
This was back when I was around 5-9.
I thought the RAF in WW2 shows and movies referred to the Russian Air Force.
I thought that the Spanish language must have been something like Chinese.
I thought that the Holy Roman Empire referred to the late Roman Empire.
I had a teacher's assistant insist that Gaza and Giza were the same thing.
Yeah, back when I was 6 or something after learning about the Revolutionary War, talk on the TV about the British royals was confusing to me.
I was like, "aren't they the bad guys, our enemies"?
That's okay, lad. When the Russians invaded Georgia in 2008, I didn't know Georgia was a nation in the Caucasus and I thought they were invading the US state (which I live adjacent to). I started to panic and wonder if my dad would have to fight them.
We teased our truck driver friend about that and he thought he would have to haul his truck down there.
Related. My mom used to say our country Canada was the biggest country in the world now that the USSR broke up. My 10 year old self knew the truth, but didn’t understand my mom could be wrong about something yet.
Imagine accepting the Torah as part of your infallible and unique holy books and still pretending to you aren't israeli, and accusing people who reject the Torah of being israeli
>be israelites >create a religion that results in the KKK >create another religion that results in Hamas
They didn't seem to think it all the way through.
I thought the UN met in the International Space Station and all those photos you see of the UN were in space. I also thought armies only existed to combat terrorism and that countries didn't go to war with each other. As well every country started out as a tribe that just happened to settle there and grew untill it reached it's modern borders.
The roman empire never settled in the territory of modern germany. The barbarians caused the fall of Rome and not their corrupt politicians and in fighting. The eastern roman empire wasn't Rome. Rabbinic judaism is older than christianity. The french revolution was the first and only "real" revolution.
>Rabbinic judaism is older than christianity.
Rabbinic Judaism is slightly older than Christianity as a distinct religion and not a sect of Judaism. Prior to the time of bar kokhba Christians were hoping to become conventional Judaism, not a separate faith.
The "Berlin Wall" only surrounded west berlin. The inner german border was fortifified in the same way but scaled up. Noone outside of germany talks about the inner german border though, since it is apparently not as spectacular
Wait, I just learned the West Berlin was actually located in East Germany.
Why would any West German agree to live there and why even go to the trouble of splitting Berlin in two instead of just giving Berlin to East Germany?
3 years ago
Anonymous
Are you serious? Check up on the yalta conference where the allies carved up post war europe. Each nation got their occupation zones, ofcourse the capital of the defeated enemy will be split the same the whole country was. stalin wanted west berlin so he isolated it, build the wall, etc. The allies stood strong (thankfully) and supplied west berlin by air (look up berlin airlift). But why would west germans leave west berlin, it is literally their home. Furthermore you cant really "decide" where to live anyway, its not like you could just buy a house anywhere in post war germany
3 years ago
Anonymous
>ofcourse the capital of the defeated enemy will be split the same the whole country was
This was actually a terrible idea for everyone involved, there's no "of course" about it.
3 years ago
Anonymous
yea sure, just let 1 nation cuck the other 3 victorious allies for the sake of convenience. That is not how that works
3 years ago
Anonymous
the western allies managing to hold West Berlin in the face of the Soviet blockade against it was a huge propaganda coup and one of the greatest logistical achievements ever accomplished
That Napoleon guillotined the french king during the revolution and that he would guillotine all the kings of the countries he conquered so his rule couldn't be questioned. Also that you had to actually kill others kings to be an 'emperor'
I thought Wales was an island until only a few months ago after a friend and I got into an argument about it. I always thought it was an island off to the left of England and Scotland and between Ireland and Britain
I thought Europe was one big country and that places like France or Italy were like states, same with Africa.
Also believed that Egypt was still like it was in ancient times
he is a murderer and he is still free because some cops were racist even though logically the case of cop racism and murder are 2 completely separate things
and then he was sent to jail on a massively outsized sentence for his armed robbery conviction. That I think was wrong. One failure of the justice system should not be fixed by another failure.
I thought the Civil War was the Silver War. Which sounded pretty cool. Confused the hell out of the school librarian when I asked for help finding a book.
>I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
FOOL! Now this information is in the wrong hands
Similarly, I was under the impression that most of the explorers in North America were English because of the bastardized English names I was taught in school (i.e. John Cabot)
>I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
At last the truth comes out. It was a Polish genocide of the Taino.
>I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
Why drop the -us? You might as well just call him Gołąb if you're trying to highlight the meaning of his name. (and yes, columb-us and golub are cognates with the same meaning, only obscured by the switch of k to g and the fact latin represented nassalisation by adding -m-).
Guilty of this. I took my girlfriend to vatican and badmouthed Christianity in front of St. Peters. Now I just cringe thinking about that. Now I have to explain to her that I am now more enlightened than in past and shit.
Even for your average fedora, that's cringe. Why did you even go to the Vatican if you disliked Christianity? That would be like me going to Israel and talking about how I hate israelites and they deserved the holocaust.
I was 20 and just out of college.
I also went to Campo do Fiori in the same city where there is a statue of Giordino Bruno and put flowers below his statue while giving a loud ass speech about persecution of Science by the church.
I hate myself.
3 years ago
Anonymous
Well at least you're aware of it and grew as a person.
For some reason I got it in my head Athens won the Peloponnesian War. That's why we have democracy today and Sparta is seen as a bad guy. Western civilization would be inconceivably different is Sparta won.
Well I imagine learning about what actually happened must have lessened your fears about the consequences of a Spartan victory.
Especially since they both just got absorbed by Macedon later anyways
That's okay, lad. When the Russians invaded Georgia in 2008, I didn't know Georgia was a nation in the Caucasus and I thought they were invading the US state (which I live adjacent to). I started to panic and wonder if my dad would have to fight them.
i didn't know if we were christians, israelites, protestants or catholics. neither did my low iq mom when i asked her. i guess the school education is the one that failed. we and everyone around us are prots
>i didn't know if we were christians, israelites, protestants or catholics. neither did my low iq mom when i asked her. i guess the school education is the one that failed. we and everyone around us are prots
Lmao....... merimutts.....
I thought the German Empire under Willy II was conservative but socdempilled and generally a benevolent entity that dindunuffin in Belgium, eastern Europe, Africa or elsewhere and if they did it wasn't their fault and they tried to fix it.
I thought armies would be all coloured red or blue depending on which side they were on like in AoE 2. In all fairness this wasn't entirely wrong with regards to some parts of history.
I thought that Spain was in South America. The idea of colonialism really confused me since I didn't understand why it was such a big deal that Columbus (some Spanish dude to young me) sailed from Spain to the Americas.
Perhaps my dumbest idea was that all human languages evolved from Hebrew, which turned into Greek which turned into Latin. To be fair I was 11 at the time.
I didn't know there was a difference between the 3rd reich and the 3rd world, they were always talked about in a negative context so I just assumed they were the same thing
That, however, raised the question why everyone was so scared of some skinny black kids
My baby boomer middle school history teacher made all the kids with brown hair or eyes stand up and told them that they all would have been executed on sight in Nazi Germany lol
Hearing about the berlin wall + the iron curtain.
I also thought their was a massive heavily fortified wall built by Soviets during the cold war spanning most of the Soviet/Ally split.
Living in America most people just acted like there was only 3 parts to the world. Russian countries, America and friends , mexico and other mexicos.
I thought that the Welsh and the Gauls were the same people due to the way it's written in Spanish ("Galés" and "Galo").
Through that I also thought Caesar's conquest of Gaul was his invasion of Britain, and that the territory of modern day France was already Roman before him.
As a child I thought Diana was a princess of literal Whales like a royally appointed warden of sea life and people respected her for her great works in Ocean conservation...
My image of warfare between nations in the old times was that literally everybody, men, women, children, young and old, of those nations charged at each other, with whatever weapon they had.
I got this idea when we were presented old tools in kindergarten, and some other kid asked if a potato smasher had been used in the Winter War.
When we were kids we got to write to deployed soldiers around the start of Iraqi Freedom and I drew for him a picture of what I thought a battlefield looked like: smiling men and women in helmets, using oversized cartoony weapons like mallets and knives, clambering through an obstacle course made of electrified booby traps. I wonder what the soldier that got the letter thought of my drawing
When I was younger I thought that the pacific theater and the Vietnam war were cause because the US tried to invade Germany through Asia, then link up with the forces of the USSR, however in doing so they passed through asian countries that then declared war on them due to the US presence.
I thought that countries always had their current borders up until like 3 years ago. When I tried to read a medieval Chinese history book I had no idea what the frick was going on. Now imagine how I felt looking at medieval Europe
I thought that battles and wars were just the 2 sides charging at each other and fighting non stop until they basically manage to kill everyone on the opposing side. Also the planes in ww2 didnt ever land, they flew around for the whole war unless they got shot down
>I thought that battles and wars were just the 2 sides charging at each other and fighting non stop until they basically manage to kill everyone on the opposing side.
>Thought King Arthur and the Round Table guys like Sir Lancelot, etc. was real >Thought Alexander the Great was a myth >Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn't, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn't American. >Thought Spain was with the Allies in both world wars >Thought pirates were some of the most fear warriors on the planet because they knew how to use both swords and guns >Thought Christopher Columbus was a pirate >Thought everyone who founded the Virginia colony were pirates >Thought Conquistadors were just Spanish pirates and that was the Spanish word for pirate >Thought vampires were real >Thought Aztec and Mayan priests were all vampires >Thought Dracula, Stalin, Hannibal, and probably a bunch more I'm forgetting were all vampires >Thought Hannibal from Silence of the Lambs was Hannibal from Carthage brought bac to life (My parents let me watch Silence of the Lambs at a very young age, it sort of fricked me up) >Thought Silence of the Lambs was real and Hannibal was out there plotting to eat people and ride elephants
>>Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn't, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn't American.
Mormons disagree.
>>Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn't, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn't American.
Based and Patriotpilled
not strictly historical, but until about 15 I held the belief that sherlock holmes was a real person. my mom actually had to break it to me like santa claus, except I knew about santa claus since I was 9.
In the third grade I had an assignment to write to first responders thanking them for saving people on 9/11 and I thanked the cops for trying to stop the hijackers because I thought the terrorists announced their intentions in their airports and stole a plane that was parked.
>thought that Argentina, Brazil and Chile were italian colonies >thought that the gulf wars were America vs Mexico because back then we learned about the gulf of mexico in school so naturally that had to be the only gulf on the planet >thought that people fled from west Berlin to east Berlin because the Soviets and the western allies flipped their sectors around so that the western part was east to make it fairer or something >thought that Russia was a successor state to Prussia
Kid me just had a very weird perception of time, pretty boring compared to the rest of this thread. I remember being eight years old and hearing that the bubonic plague happened in the 1300s and thinking that such a date was extremely ancient beyond comprehension.
That was pretty much any year before the 1920s, that was anything outside what I had learned in school. I remember learning that Frankenstein was written in 1818 and it seemed so impossibly far away.
I do agree it is far beyond normal comprehension. As much as we likely wouldn’t know how to interact with an ordinary gentleman from the 1700s, someone from further than that in my opinion would share such different values than us nowadays that they’re beyond all speculation. Sometimes they’re closer in sensibility, like the Roman republicans, and sometimes further like the Byzantines, but they’d all be exceedingly strange if not impossible to be able to sit down and converse with normally now even if we could speak their language
I don't remember having any of these types of misconceptions. Anything I didn't know I guess I just didn't think about, my mind didn't try to fill in the gaps of anything. I believed wholeheartedly in santa until I was 11, that's the type of person I am.
i-it's not that bad i just accept whatever authority tells me. i wouldve been a good serf. im comfortable being exploited if it means i get some pats on the head and encouragement...
the second i stopped believing in santa was exactly when i became an atheist too, black and white like that
My parents would get on the roof and stomp around to make think santa just landed, then they made it look like a reindeer had entered our home by putting muddy hoofprints on the carpet with half eaten carrots everywhere. Shit had me convinced for a long time lol.
>That Berlin was in the middle of Germany
It was more or less true back in the days of the empire. Berlin is slightly over 500km away from both Trier and Koenigsberg.
I was raised by extremely religious parents/grandparents and so I totally bought into the Biblical account of history. I believed that Judaism was the first and only true (before Christianity) religion and God created everyone, but some people hated God for trying to make them follow rules, and so they started practicing false religions. Also believed Noah's Ark, Garden of Eden etc. were real events and that creatures like angels, demons, nephilim etc. were real. But then when I was around 8 I watched a cartoon of Noah's Ark and realized it was kinda moronic and that eventually led to me realizing the whole thing was moronic by the time I was around 15, it took me so long because I was afraid my thoughts would send me to hell.
I'm kinda similar to you only not as extreme. I was raised Christian and it baffled me when I found out there were people that weren't Christian. Naturally this made me start to question how I knew my God was the right one out of all of them, and I eventually came to terms that I didn't and it was all bullshit. I feel like I've lost something because of it though because religious communities are very wholesome and friendly unlike the group of unrepentant buttholes I find myself surrounded with these days
That was the first metaphor I ever learned. Growing up after the fall of communism was kinda weird too in the mid 90’sbecause I was 8 years old and had no idea why half the globes and textbooks had the USSR, and half had Russia/independent states.
I thought London and Paris were filled with natives based on old tourist advertisements.
I thought Europe in general was some sort of safe haven in case things didn’t work out here.
I thought British royalty still dressed in red coats and wore wigs like in the history books.
I bought into the idea that we were the “good guys” in all the wars we participated in and the other side was the “bad guys”.
I thought the Middle East was a giant desert filled with people who still dress the way they depict people two thousand years ago in Sunday school.
I thought Israel was in the center of the Middle East.
I thought America was founded by Christians and the God they spoke about was the Christian God.
I thought Anastasia Romanov was still alive.
I saw illustration about early development of robotics and actually thought that first robots looked like this. People had giant robots walking around and fighting in WW1.
I used to think that all the millions of deaths attributed to Hitler were caused by him directly: as in he had an AK-47 and he ran around everywhere murdering people and nobody was able to stop him.
I didn't understand the relative power of countries. I am British and was under the impression a country like Italy could attack us at any time. I think this wasn't helped by South Park (Canada successfully invading the US in scenes).
I also thought most of the world was just huge islands like the UK was. I saw that map of the US without Alaska so assumed the US was a big island. I drew war maps as a kid and everything was just islands apart from germany and russia, which were connected by land.
Well, Italy COULD attack you guys at any time, assuming they ever made it through Gibraltar or marched their army across the Alps to take France first in a reverse-Napoleonic maneuvre, but it would be highly highly inadvisable
I thought Serbia and Siberia was the same thing
I thought Turkey was not in Europe
I thought that USA was the greatest country in the world
I thought that history did not matter that much
Went to mosque after school every weekday to learn about Islam as a kid. Used to think that your life ended after you stopped going to mosque (to learn). You would just die. Weird that I use to think this despite the fact that there were plenty of people around who were alive and did not in fact go to the mosque.
I thought Herodotus was born in like the 20th century because for him to be called the father of history, he must have written the history of most of the world.
I also found it weird that a 20th century guy would have a name like Herodotus and no last name.
I thought New Zealand was in the north of Russia (Novaya Zemlya)
I thought Siberia was a tiny island (Novaya Zemlya)
I thought the Berlin Wall was all around the border of East Germany
I thought Rock Balboa was real
I thought Ireland was in the Balkans
I thought one state in my country (Sonora) was the house of tropical music because a lot of groups used the name "Sonora"
Thought California had jungle because it was so green in the map and because of a group translated as "The Toucans of Tijuana"
I thought the climate phenomenons of "the boy" and "the girl" were in honor of some unknown kid that died in a storm or something
I though Prussia was an extension of Russia
I thought everybody was in war with Germany in ww2 because they saw the labour camps and the starving people and they just wanted to be humanitarians and kill Hitler
Like others in this thread, I didnt know what Prussia was. I thought it was a region between Poland and Russia that they called Prussia, you know like a portmanteau of "Poland" and "Russia"
I was really confused when I later learned that Prussians were Germans.
I was utterly convinced Nintendo was an Italian company as a kid because Mario was Italian and Super Mario Sunshine always resembled coastal Italy to me.
I thought a nuclear bomb would destroy half the planet and thought that dropping one out of a Concorde to outrun the explosion to wipe out the terrorists in the middle east was a good idea.
I know it's not history but that's probably the stupidest thing I ever came up with as a kid.
I remember my mum telling me that there was a button called the doomsday button was linked to a nuke in the core of the earth, and that if the world got too shitty they'd press it and blow the planet up.
She also told me the doomsday clock was a clock was a clock that would count down to tell people when the government was going to just randomly nuke cities at various times.
I don't know whether she actually believed this or was just making it up to frick with me.
>Greece in eastern bloc
W-what timeline are you from anon?
Looks like Turkey too. I guess no Truman doctrine in this world
>literal Iron Curtain
A pretty kino one, clearly.
I believed women were equal to men and they were just deliberately held down for all of history lol
this
This but with Black people.
Stop browsing LULZ for a little and talk to real people
If you talk to a layman about American/African black history, they will probably try and parrot the fantasy of a historically unique oppression of blacks that warrants current social politics. So try again.
Since 1989, whites receive on average 36% more callbacks than African Americans, and 24% more callbacks than Latinos. We observe no change in the level of hiring discrimination against African Americans over the past 25 years… Accounting for applicant education, applicant gender, study method, occupational groups, and local labor market conditions does little to alter this result. Contrary to claims of declining discrimination in American society, our estimates suggest that levels of discrimination remain largely unchanged, at least at the point of hire.
http://m.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870.full
The authors responded to more than 1,300 employment ads in the sales, administrative support, clerical, and customer services job categories, sending out nearly 5,000 resumes. The ads covered a large spectrum of job quality, from cashier work at retail establishments and clerical work in a mailroom to office and sales management positions.
The results indicate large racial differences in callback rates to a phone line with a voice mailbox attached and a message recorded by someone of the appropriate race and gender. Job applicants with white names needed to send about 10 resumes to get one callback; those with African-American names needed to send around 15 resumes to get one callback... It indicates that a white name yields as many more callbacks as an additional eight years of experience.
http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
Black-white residential segregation, while on the decline, still persists at high levels in most US metropolitan areas… Recent evidence suggests that household-level socioeconomic and demographic characteristics explain only a small proportion of the racial differences in location choices. Racial processes such as prejudice and housing market discrimination continue to drive black-white segregation patterns.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.0735-2166.2004.00205.x/full
This article analyzes sentencing outcomes for black and white men in Georgia. The analysis uses sentencing data collected by the Georgia Department of Corrections (GDC). Among first-time offenders, both the race-only models and race and skin color models estimate that, on average, blacks receive sentences that are 4.25 percent higher than those of whites even after controlling for legally-relevant factors such as the type of crime.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jels.12077/full
Although there exists a large and well-documented “race gap” between whites and blacks in their support for the death penalty, we know relatively little about the nature of these differences and how the races respond to various arguments against the penalty… whites, who are highly resistant to persuasion and, in the case of the racial argument, actually become more supportive of the death penalty upon learning that it discriminates against blacks…
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1540-5907.2007.00293.x/full
Controlling for a wide array of factors, we found that in cases involving a White victim, the more stereotypically Black a defendant is perceived to be, the more likely that person is to be sentenced to death.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9280.2006.01716.x
Empirical studies of the death penalty continue to find that the race and gender of homicide victims are associated with the severity of legal responses in homicide cases even after controlling for legally relevant factors… In particular, we empirically test the hypothesis that defendants convicted of killing white females are significantly more likely to receive death sentences than killers of victims with other race-gender characteristics. Findings indicate that homicides with white female victims were more likely to result in death sentences than other victim race-gender dyads.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07418820400096021
This paper assesses whether Blacks and Hispanics are disadvantaged at the sentencing phase of the justice system and whether the findings depend on the use of traditional regression-based methods to control for legally relevant variables vs. the use of precision matching methods, which attend to potential sample selection bias that occurs when there are not exact matches for those sentenced to incarceration and non-incarceration. Analysis of the population of Florida offenders from 1994 to 2006 using both methodologies indicates that Black offenders continue to be disproportionately incarcerated compared to White or Hispanic offenders, and that Hispanic offenders were slightly more likely than White offenders to be incarcerated.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07418825.2012.659674?src=recsys
Using unique data on misdemeanor marijuana cases, this study examines the impact of defendants’ race on prosecutors’ decisions to make (a) plea offers for a lesser charge and (b) sentence offers for non-custodial punishments. Preliminary findings indicated that black defendants were less likely to receive reduced charge offers, and both black and Latino defendants were more likely to receive custodial sentence offers. However, these disparities were largely explained by legal factors, evidence, arrest circumstances, and court actor characteristics, though black defendants were still more likely to receive custodial sentence offers after including these controls
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07418825.2014.915340?src=recsys
Recent studies by police departments and researchers confirm that police stop persons of racial and ethnic minority groups more often than whites relative to their proportions in the population… In this article we analyze data from 125,000 pedestrian stops by the New York Police Department over a 15-month period… We find that persons of African and Hispanic descent were stopped more frequently than whites, even after controlling for precinct variability and race-specific estimates of crime participation.
http://amstat.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1198/016214506000001040#.WkATqno7af0
Although Medicare provides beneficiaries with primary access to the health care system, racial/ethnic disparities in health care experiences and preventive care are well documented in the Medicare population… In the absence of major health problems, whites have better overall access to care than other Medicare beneficiaries.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/external_publications/EP50370.html
African Americans and Hispanics traditionally have faced many barriers that limit their access to and choice of housing. During summer and fall 2000, local fair housing organizations conducted 4,600 paired tests across 20 major metropolitan areas nationwide. These surveys directly compared real estate or rental offices' treatment of African Americans and Hispanics to that of whites. The study finds that disparate treatment discrimination in rental and owner-occupied housing markets persists...
https://academic.oup.com/socpro/article-abstract/52/2/152/1659589
This paper tests for racial discrimination in the rental housing market using matched-pair audits conducted via e-mail for rental units advertised on-line… Generally, discrimination occurs against African American names… Racial discrimination is more severe in neighborhoods that are near “tipping points” in racial composition, and for units that are part of a larger building.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094119011000179
Rapid actions to persons holding weapons were simulated using desktop virtual reality… Signal detection analyses revealed two race effects that led to Blacks being incorrectly shot at more than Whites: a perceptual sensitivity effect (when held by Blacks guns were less distinguishable from harmless objects) and a response bias effect (objects held by Blacks were more likely to be treated as guns).
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103103000209
Research shows that participants shoot armed Blacks more frequently and quickly than armed Whites, but make don't-shoot responses more frequently and quickly for unarmed Whites than unarmed Blacks. We argue that this bias reflects the perception of threat — specifically, threat associated with Black males.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103110002040
The current work examined police officers' decisions to shoot Black and White criminal suspects in a computer simulation. Responses to the simulation revealed that upon initial exposure to the program, the officers were more likely to mistakenly shoot unarmed Black compared with unarmed White suspects.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0956-7976.2005.00800.x
Police officers were compared with community members in terms of the speed and accuracy with which they made simulated decisions to shoot (or not shoot) Black and White targets. Both samples exhibited robust racial bias in response speed
http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2007-07951-004
Participants were exposed to a crime story embedded in a newscast… Afterward, participants were asked the likelihood that the depicted officer and perpetrator were either White or Black. In addition, participants were asked how positively they viewed the officer who was featured in the story. Results revealed that race unidentified perpetrators were rated as having a high likelihood of being Black. In addition, heavy news viewers were more likely than light news viewers to express a high likelihood that the unidentified officer was White. Finally, heavy news viewers were more likely than light news viewers to have positive perceptions of unidentified officers, but not of Black officers featured in a newscast.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15213260701375660?src=recsys
We conclude that disparities in military allocations of goods and burdens sometimes disadvantage racial minorities. This conclusion rests on a review of institutional analyses in five arenas to which researchers have paid close attention: racial patterns in enlistment, officer promotion rates, administration of military justice, risk of death in combat, and health care for wounded soldiers. Although not a direct or intended result of military policy and practice, in three of five cases there was evidence of racial bias and institutional racism.
http://www.annualreviews.org/abs/doi/10.1146/annurev-soc-071811-145501
The results show that white respondents who saw an image of an African American voter and poll worker expressed greater support for voter id laws than those in the no image condition, even after controlling for the significant effects of racial resentment and political ideology. Exposure to an image of a white voter and poll worker did not produce a similar effect. The findings provide new evidence that public opinion about voter ID laws is racialized
hrough the use of a unique dataset from the 2006 elections, we analyze the impact that voter identification laws have on immigrant and minority voters in California, New Mexico and Washington... Because our data reflects the identification trends of actual voters, not just adult citizens, the findings go far to suggest that voter identification laws could immediately disenfranchise many Latino, Asian and African American citizens.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c910/559899789100536c71b2e577026ba0ea8d66.pdf
Because voter-identification laws discourage voter turnout, particularly among identifiable minority groups, their implementation abridges a fundamental constitutional right. The U.S. Constitution includes a little-known remedy for denying or abridging the right to vote that reduces a state's congressional representation in proportion to the extent of the abridgements
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/voterid-laws-discourage-participation-particularly-among-minorities-and-trigger-a-constitutional-remedy-in-lost-representation/B68D9AA0153594843D09002D28909AF5
>all these cringe replies
Do any of (you) (the one person replying lol) really believe that Blacks are exactly likes Whites, and Blacks are just as emotionally intelligent, just as smart, and just as capable, and that any time a minority is 'less likely' to get something or more likely to be killed it's because of SECRET INTERNALIZED RACISM? So sad, I feel bad for (you).
talking about these things outsid eof LULZ will sne doyu to jail in some countries.
Same
I thought Richard Nixon was a military dictator and ruled from the Pentagon for some reason
Boomers taught you that
Can a POTUS rule from the Pentagon? It would be kino as hell ngl
h..how old are you?
Nixon left office almost 50 years ago, anon
That every war was about good vs evil.
I thought the world was actually black and white like in those old movies and photos and Someone just invented color.
That’s pretty stupid anon, I won’t lie to you
t. Calvin
I distinctly remember my dad telling me that Russia was only large during the USSR and that Russia after the USSR was actually a really small country. I don't know why I have this memory because it seems too moronic for him to say, yet its there. Pic related is how big I remember thinking Russia was, with a memory of a map where Russia was about that size.
perhaps your father was referring to the principality of muscovy?
Doubtful, I remember it was because we saw a map with the USSR on it and him saying that Russia wasn't that big any more, and that Russia was actually a small country. It's a baffling memory but genuinely influenced my interpretation of Russia as a kid.
You thought Kaliningrad was whole Russia.
the principality of Moscovy united Russia
Could be he talked about Russia not being as large as it had formerly been. Your brain might have just taken that to mean small and ran with it.
Probably, same probably happened when I remember seeing a section in a book about the Crimean war and seeing a helicopter in it and thought the Crimean war was fought with cannons but also helicopters. And this wasn't me mixing it up with 2014 since this was like back in the 90's or early 00's.
You were probably looking at an old map or globe and your father pointed out that Russia is simply smaller than the USSR due to the fact that it had the Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, and Central Asia in it.
I remember a teacher saying that Russia isn't the biggest country in the world anymore after the USSRs collapse and that China was bigger.
That is absolute bullshit, Russia is still by far the biggest country.
Somehow it makes me mad when teachers talk moronic garbage they never fact-checked and believe is true, because a) they're spreading stupidity on the planet and b) they're authority figures and should be even better educated than the average pleb. I'm not a teacher and would never make moronic mistakes like that.
This was back when I was around 5-9.
I thought the RAF in WW2 shows and movies referred to the Russian Air Force.
I thought that the Spanish language must have been something like Chinese.
I thought that the Holy Roman Empire referred to the late Roman Empire.
I had a teacher's assistant insist that Gaza and Giza were the same thing.
Yeah, back when I was 6 or something after learning about the Revolutionary War, talk on the TV about the British royals was confusing to me.
I was like, "aren't they the bad guys, our enemies"?
We teased our truck driver friend about that and he thought he would have to haul his truck down there.
Related, altough not really a historical belief, but as a kid I tought that russia was just the kaliningrad oblast
Related. My mom used to say our country Canada was the biggest country in the world now that the USSR broke up. My 10 year old self knew the truth, but didn’t understand my mom could be wrong about something yet.
Didn't you just mistake it for Kaliningrad? I remember also wondering why there are two Russias
I trought islam was just a branch of judaism
You weren't wrong. Islam and Protestantism are both israeli psyops.
based
Imagine accepting the Torah as part of your infallible and unique holy books and still pretending to you aren't israeli, and accusing people who reject the Torah of being israeli
>be israelites
>create a religion that results in the KKK
>create another religion that results in Hamas
They didn't seem to think it all the way through.
Jews unironically have funded and supported every ideology you can ever possibly believe in
I thought the UN met in the International Space Station and all those photos you see of the UN were in space. I also thought armies only existed to combat terrorism and that countries didn't go to war with each other. As well every country started out as a tribe that just happened to settle there and grew untill it reached it's modern borders.
>every country started out as a tribe that just happened to settle there and grew untill it reached it's modern borders.
Civ logic kek
The roman empire never settled in the territory of modern germany. The barbarians caused the fall of Rome and not their corrupt politicians and in fighting. The eastern roman empire wasn't Rome. Rabbinic judaism is older than christianity. The french revolution was the first and only "real" revolution.
>Rabbinic judaism is older than christianity.
Rabbinic Judaism is slightly older than Christianity as a distinct religion and not a sect of Judaism. Prior to the time of bar kokhba Christians were hoping to become conventional Judaism, not a separate faith.
Why are Greece and turkey eastern bloc?
That the Berlin wall split the whole of East and West Germany, and not just Berlin.
Me too. I thought the border was the location of the wall. One time I wondered why the Berlin Wall was nowhere near Berlin.
Wait, it didn't?
The "Berlin Wall" only surrounded west berlin. The inner german border was fortifified in the same way but scaled up. Noone outside of germany talks about the inner german border though, since it is apparently not as spectacular
Wait, I just learned the West Berlin was actually located in East Germany.
Why would any West German agree to live there and why even go to the trouble of splitting Berlin in two instead of just giving Berlin to East Germany?
Are you serious? Check up on the yalta conference where the allies carved up post war europe. Each nation got their occupation zones, ofcourse the capital of the defeated enemy will be split the same the whole country was. stalin wanted west berlin so he isolated it, build the wall, etc. The allies stood strong (thankfully) and supplied west berlin by air (look up berlin airlift). But why would west germans leave west berlin, it is literally their home. Furthermore you cant really "decide" where to live anyway, its not like you could just buy a house anywhere in post war germany
>ofcourse the capital of the defeated enemy will be split the same the whole country was
This was actually a terrible idea for everyone involved, there's no "of course" about it.
yea sure, just let 1 nation cuck the other 3 victorious allies for the sake of convenience. That is not how that works
the western allies managing to hold West Berlin in the face of the Soviet blockade against it was a huge propaganda coup and one of the greatest logistical achievements ever accomplished
Same
That Napoleon guillotined the french king during the revolution and that he would guillotine all the kings of the countries he conquered so his rule couldn't be questioned. Also that you had to actually kill others kings to be an 'emperor'
that would have been ultra based lol
I thought Wales was an island until only a few months ago after a friend and I got into an argument about it. I always thought it was an island off to the left of England and Scotland and between Ireland and Britain
I thought Europe was one big country and that places like France or Italy were like states, same with Africa.
Also believed that Egypt was still like it was in ancient times
I think you were thinking of Isle of Mann
guilty
I wish lol, fricking anglos/rapeugees
he is a murderer and he is still free because some cops were racist even though logically the case of cop racism and murder are 2 completely separate things
and then he was sent to jail on a massively outsized sentence for his armed robbery conviction. That I think was wrong. One failure of the justice system should not be fixed by another failure.
right, murderers should be let go free instead. in the name of democracy etc.
You were thinking of the Isle of Sodor
Or maybe he was thinking about the Isle of Man
>pittbul
That dude never quits being a n****r, does he!
I used to believe the entirety of WW2 was about the United States liberating France from the Germans.
burger education, everyone
that was the just the most signifigant part.
I thought Red Alert 1 was an accurate depiction of an alternate history where nazi germany never existed.
At least you didn't believe Battlezone was an accurate depiction of the cold war like I did
I thought the romans invented pizza.
I thought the Civil War was the Silver War. Which sounded pretty cool. Confused the hell out of the school librarian when I asked for help finding a book.
I was afraid to take a shower for a week after I discovered gas chambers
After watching Braveheart, I tought it was king's duty to lick all newly-wed women.
I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
>I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
This is what they don't want the world to know
>I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
FOOL! Now this information is in the wrong hands
Similarly, I was under the impression that most of the explorers in North America were English because of the bastardized English names I was taught in school (i.e. John Cabot)
>John Cabot isnt english
What the frick?!?
His real name was Giovanni Caboto, he was born in Italy
>After watching Braveheart, I tought it was king's duty to lick all newly-wed women
>I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
At last the truth comes out. It was a Polish genocide of the Taino.
>I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
Why drop the -us? You might as well just call him Gołąb if you're trying to highlight the meaning of his name. (and yes, columb-us and golub are cognates with the same meaning, only obscured by the switch of k to g and the fact latin represented nassalisation by adding -m-).
based polish linguist
There's an actual theory that Columbus was the son of a Polish king that got exiled, I shit you not
WE
Hold your horses, said King was from Lithuanian-Ruthenian stock.
I thought all wars were decided by a single decisive battle, fought on one big open plain.
Almost this, I thought all battles were agreed upon beforehand and that real world strategy was comparable to chess
I thought Serbia and Syria were the same thing.
I thought Prussia was a cool and peaceful Disneyland-like country with castles, hills and shit.
I thought Prussia was just some Eastern European country that existed then didn’t exist at some point. I imagined it as like Russia-lite.
Pre-Russia? Kek
>I thought Serbia and Syria were the same thing.
They are
Rome was a massive empire until barbarians sacked Rome and it all collapsed once and Rome was completely deserted for decades
At one point in my life I believed christianity destroyed scientific progress in the Middle Ages.
Guilty of this. I took my girlfriend to vatican and badmouthed Christianity in front of St. Peters. Now I just cringe thinking about that. Now I have to explain to her that I am now more enlightened than in past and shit.
Even for your average fedora, that's cringe. Why did you even go to the Vatican if you disliked Christianity? That would be like me going to Israel and talking about how I hate israelites and they deserved the holocaust.
I was 20 and just out of college.
I also went to Campo do Fiori in the same city where there is a statue of Giordino Bruno and put flowers below his statue while giving a loud ass speech about persecution of Science by the church.
I hate myself.
Well at least you're aware of it and grew as a person.
>That would be like me going to Israel and talking about how I hate israelites and they deserved the holocaust.
That would be based tbh
For some reason I got it in my head Athens won the Peloponnesian War. That's why we have democracy today and Sparta is seen as a bad guy. Western civilization would be inconceivably different is Sparta won.
Well I imagine learning about what actually happened must have lessened your fears about the consequences of a Spartan victory.
Especially since they both just got absorbed by Macedon later anyways
I thought that 9/11 happened in Chicago
How?
Because I saw on the news that America was attacked and America to me meant the place that I lived in which was Chicago
That's okay, lad. When the Russians invaded Georgia in 2008, I didn't know Georgia was a nation in the Caucasus and I thought they were invading the US state (which I live adjacent to). I started to panic and wonder if my dad would have to fight them.
King Arthur defended Britain from Garibaldi and his horde of Italians.
i didn't know if we were christians, israelites, protestants or catholics. neither did my low iq mom when i asked her. i guess the school education is the one that failed. we and everyone around us are prots
>i didn't know if we were christians, israelites, protestants or catholics. neither did my low iq mom when i asked her. i guess the school education is the one that failed. we and everyone around us are prots
Lmao....... merimutts.....
Back to your containment board
Ya best start believin' in containment boards.. yer in one..
>I thought the iron curtain was a giant metal wall across Europe
So did I.
I also believed that Hitler was the bad guy.
I was a dumb kid.
I thought the German Empire under Willy II was conservative but socdempilled and generally a benevolent entity that dindunuffin in Belgium, eastern Europe, Africa or elsewhere and if they did it wasn't their fault and they tried to fix it.
correct
this is true
I thought Prussia was a shortened version of Polish Russia
I thought armies would be all coloured red or blue depending on which side they were on like in AoE 2. In all fairness this wasn't entirely wrong with regards to some parts of history.
I thought germany was divided right down the middle and Berlin was in the dead center of Germany.
I thought Vietnam and Vermont were the same place.
I thought America and Australia were the same place
took me a while until i realized the holocaust was a hoax
I used to think there was a clear good and clear evil in every war
I thought Russia invaded Georgia because of a Eurovision Song called "Put In".
It's actually caled "We Don't Wanna Put In"
its a bit sexual haha
I thought that Spain was in South America. The idea of colonialism really confused me since I didn't understand why it was such a big deal that Columbus (some Spanish dude to young me) sailed from Spain to the Americas.
I thought all the Diadochi states around the Mediterranean were Arab
I used to think israelites were the bad guys
I used to think israelites were not exterminated and replaced by ethnic Germans.
i used to think israelites were good
Perhaps my dumbest idea was that all human languages evolved from Hebrew, which turned into Greek which turned into Latin. To be fair I was 11 at the time.
Before Leibniz everyone thought that way.
I thought that the cold war referred to the portuguese colonial wars
I mean every square is a rectangle
I believed racism was just an an irrational hatred of people based solely on skin colour.
I also believed all cultures were equal.
I thought the Persian Empire was Muslim
There were a lot of Persian empires and most of them were Muslim. Do you mean the Sassanids?
Maybe he means the Achaemenids?
maybe he's just moronic
I used to think the cold war was a real war that started right after WW2
I thought Canadians were all eskimos, lived in igloos huffing gasoline and played curling while drinking Labatts all day.
I got North Korea and North Dakota mixed up and thought their was an insane tyrannical US governor trying to get nukes for some reason.
This would actually be a pretty based premise for a movie
>Dumb historical beliefs you had as a kid
That this guy was as bad as we were told.
"Hitler wanted to take over the world" is a common one
Hitler wanted to take over the world and exterminate everyone who didn't have blue eyes and blonde hair.
My CNN-addicted mother still believes this.
He turned out to be even worse than we were taught, unironically
I didn't know there was a difference between the 3rd reich and the 3rd world, they were always talked about in a negative context so I just assumed they were the same thing
That, however, raised the question why everyone was so scared of some skinny black kids
My baby boomer middle school history teacher made all the kids with brown hair or eyes stand up and told them that they all would have been executed on sight in Nazi Germany lol
Hearing about the berlin wall + the iron curtain.
I also thought their was a massive heavily fortified wall built by Soviets during the cold war spanning most of the Soviet/Ally split.
Living in America most people just acted like there was only 3 parts to the world. Russian countries, America and friends , mexico and other mexicos.
I thought Harvard was somewhere in the Midwest for some reason, and even now I have to remind myself it's in Boston
That jetfuel could melt steel beams.
I thought that the Welsh and the Gauls were the same people due to the way it's written in Spanish ("Galés" and "Galo").
Through that I also thought Caesar's conquest of Gaul was his invasion of Britain, and that the territory of modern day France was already Roman before him.
Back in like 1st grade my concept of time was so fricked that I thought Benjamin Franklin and America was like only 50 years old
I thought the Gulf War was fought in the gulf of mexico.
ESL here. I thought it was about golf and wondered why the frick people were looking for oil in a golf course.
Based weekend hacker
As a child I thought Diana was a princess of literal Whales like a royally appointed warden of sea life and people respected her for her great works in Ocean conservation...
It was mostly reinforced concrete or metal fencing, so yes, it was an 'iron' curtain.
I thought Hitler was Australian and that he sailed to Germany to fight in WW1.
best alternate timeline right there
>Lets SMASH SOME VB AND BRITS c**tS!
My image of warfare between nations in the old times was that literally everybody, men, women, children, young and old, of those nations charged at each other, with whatever weapon they had.
I got this idea when we were presented old tools in kindergarten, and some other kid asked if a potato smasher had been used in the Winter War.
But potato mashers were used in the war as weapons.
I literally thought the same.
When we were kids we got to write to deployed soldiers around the start of Iraqi Freedom and I drew for him a picture of what I thought a battlefield looked like: smiling men and women in helmets, using oversized cartoony weapons like mallets and knives, clambering through an obstacle course made of electrified booby traps. I wonder what the soldier that got the letter thought of my drawing
When I was younger I thought that the pacific theater and the Vietnam war were cause because the US tried to invade Germany through Asia, then link up with the forces of the USSR, however in doing so they passed through asian countries that then declared war on them due to the US presence.
Probably thought you were some communist dick suck
I thought that countries always had their current borders up until like 3 years ago. When I tried to read a medieval Chinese history book I had no idea what the frick was going on. Now imagine how I felt looking at medieval Europe
How old are you
I thought that battles and wars were just the 2 sides charging at each other and fighting non stop until they basically manage to kill everyone on the opposing side. Also the planes in ww2 didnt ever land, they flew around for the whole war unless they got shot down
>I thought that battles and wars were just the 2 sides charging at each other and fighting non stop until they basically manage to kill everyone on the opposing side.
You can thank Hollywood for that
I sometimes wish humanity was that brutal, we did come pretty close in the world wars to that
I thought Mexico and Peru were direct continuations of the Inca and Aztec empires.
This but with Italy and the Roman Empire.
based and mussolinipilled
>Thought King Arthur and the Round Table guys like Sir Lancelot, etc. was real
>Thought Alexander the Great was a myth
>Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn't, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn't American.
>Thought Spain was with the Allies in both world wars
>Thought pirates were some of the most fear warriors on the planet because they knew how to use both swords and guns
>Thought Christopher Columbus was a pirate
>Thought everyone who founded the Virginia colony were pirates
>Thought Conquistadors were just Spanish pirates and that was the Spanish word for pirate
>Thought vampires were real
>Thought Aztec and Mayan priests were all vampires
>Thought Dracula, Stalin, Hannibal, and probably a bunch more I'm forgetting were all vampires
>Thought Hannibal from Silence of the Lambs was Hannibal from Carthage brought bac to life (My parents let me watch Silence of the Lambs at a very young age, it sort of fricked me up)
>Thought Silence of the Lambs was real and Hannibal was out there plotting to eat people and ride elephants
I wasn't a smart kid.
that's some real moronic shit anon. hope you turned out fine tho
you are priceless
>Thought Silence of the Lambs was real and Hannibal was out there plotting to eat people and ride elephants
This is true though?
Holy shit; you win.
>Thought pirates were some of the most fear warriors on the planet because they knew how to use both swords and guns
That's actually cute
>Spanish conquistadors were pirates
They were.
>>Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn't, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn't American.
Mormons disagree.
>Thought Dracula was a vampire
Anon... I..
Vampires aren't real
AYAYAYAY
>>Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn't, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn't American.
Based and Patriotpilled
These are all based though
>Thought Aztec and Mayan priests were all vampires
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!!
Ah the classic stalin vampire theory
not strictly historical, but until about 15 I held the belief that sherlock holmes was a real person. my mom actually had to break it to me like santa claus, except I knew about santa claus since I was 9.
I use to believe that Russia was founded by Swedes
it was tho
moron
he's right tho
How? Rurik was a finn
>who is rurik
In the third grade I had an assignment to write to first responders thanking them for saving people on 9/11 and I thanked the cops for trying to stop the hijackers because I thought the terrorists announced their intentions in their airports and stole a plane that was parked.
>thought that Argentina, Brazil and Chile were italian colonies
>thought that the gulf wars were America vs Mexico because back then we learned about the gulf of mexico in school so naturally that had to be the only gulf on the planet
>thought that people fled from west Berlin to east Berlin because the Soviets and the western allies flipped their sectors around so that the western part was east to make it fairer or something
>thought that Russia was a successor state to Prussia
That hitler killed his own parents
I got surprised when it turned out that Poland's 1939 and present day borders were way different
I thought that Judaism was older than Hinduism
Kid me just had a very weird perception of time, pretty boring compared to the rest of this thread. I remember being eight years old and hearing that the bubonic plague happened in the 1300s and thinking that such a date was extremely ancient beyond comprehension.
That was pretty much any year before the 1920s, that was anything outside what I had learned in school. I remember learning that Frankenstein was written in 1818 and it seemed so impossibly far away.
I do agree it is far beyond normal comprehension. As much as we likely wouldn’t know how to interact with an ordinary gentleman from the 1700s, someone from further than that in my opinion would share such different values than us nowadays that they’re beyond all speculation. Sometimes they’re closer in sensibility, like the Roman republicans, and sometimes further like the Byzantines, but they’d all be exceedingly strange if not impossible to be able to sit down and converse with normally now even if we could speak their language
I thought that Cod 4 : Modern Warfare's plot was historical, meaning that a nuclear bomb was dropped on Afghanistan ... my brother made a fool of me
I don't remember having any of these types of misconceptions. Anything I didn't know I guess I just didn't think about, my mind didn't try to fill in the gaps of anything. I believed wholeheartedly in santa until I was 11, that's the type of person I am.
Yikes!
i-it's not that bad i just accept whatever authority tells me. i wouldve been a good serf. im comfortable being exploited if it means i get some pats on the head and encouragement...
the second i stopped believing in santa was exactly when i became an atheist too, black and white like that
My parents would get on the roof and stomp around to make think santa just landed, then they made it look like a reindeer had entered our home by putting muddy hoofprints on the carpet with half eaten carrots everywhere. Shit had me convinced for a long time lol.
That Berlin was in the middle of Germany and the Berlin wall was a huge wall diving the country in half.
>That Berlin was in the middle of Germany
It was more or less true back in the days of the empire. Berlin is slightly over 500km away from both Trier and Koenigsberg.
I was raised by extremely religious parents/grandparents and so I totally bought into the Biblical account of history. I believed that Judaism was the first and only true (before Christianity) religion and God created everyone, but some people hated God for trying to make them follow rules, and so they started practicing false religions. Also believed Noah's Ark, Garden of Eden etc. were real events and that creatures like angels, demons, nephilim etc. were real. But then when I was around 8 I watched a cartoon of Noah's Ark and realized it was kinda moronic and that eventually led to me realizing the whole thing was moronic by the time I was around 15, it took me so long because I was afraid my thoughts would send me to hell.
I'm kinda similar to you only not as extreme. I was raised Christian and it baffled me when I found out there were people that weren't Christian. Naturally this made me start to question how I knew my God was the right one out of all of them, and I eventually came to terms that I didn't and it was all bullshit. I feel like I've lost something because of it though because religious communities are very wholesome and friendly unlike the group of unrepentant buttholes I find myself surrounded with these days
i thought the british represented civilisation and common decency
I thought Hungary and Turkey were related somehow because they were both named after food
That was the first metaphor I ever learned. Growing up after the fall of communism was kinda weird too in the mid 90’sbecause I was 8 years old and had no idea why half the globes and textbooks had the USSR, and half had Russia/independent states.
I believed in the holohoax
I thought London and Paris were filled with natives based on old tourist advertisements.
I thought Europe in general was some sort of safe haven in case things didn’t work out here.
I thought British royalty still dressed in red coats and wore wigs like in the history books.
I bought into the idea that we were the “good guys” in all the wars we participated in and the other side was the “bad guys”.
I thought the Middle East was a giant desert filled with people who still dress the way they depict people two thousand years ago in Sunday school.
I thought Israel was in the center of the Middle East.
I thought America was founded by Christians and the God they spoke about was the Christian God.
I thought Anastasia Romanov was still alive.
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I thought African never had an empire and everyone lived it huts prior to Western colonization in the 19th century
I thought everyone practiced black magic before 19th century
I thought Religion was an innate idea. You're either born a Christian or Muslim
i thought that berlin was where the main west-east germany border was located, and that the berlin wall covered that whole area.
I saw illustration about early development of robotics and actually thought that first robots looked like this. People had giant robots walking around and fighting in WW1.
I got memed into believing the boilerplate was real, so it could be worse
I used to think that all the millions of deaths attributed to Hitler were caused by him directly: as in he had an AK-47 and he ran around everywhere murdering people and nobody was able to stop him.
Washington D.C. was in the state of Washington.
I thought WW2 wasn't a battle between three israeli ideologies
I didn't understand the relative power of countries. I am British and was under the impression a country like Italy could attack us at any time. I think this wasn't helped by South Park (Canada successfully invading the US in scenes).
I also thought most of the world was just huge islands like the UK was. I saw that map of the US without Alaska so assumed the US was a big island. I drew war maps as a kid and everything was just islands apart from germany and russia, which were connected by land.
Well, Italy COULD attack you guys at any time, assuming they ever made it through Gibraltar or marched their army across the Alps to take France first in a reverse-Napoleonic maneuvre, but it would be highly highly inadvisable
I thought Serbia and Siberia was the same thing
I thought Turkey was not in Europe
I thought that USA was the greatest country in the world
I thought that history did not matter that much
>I thought Turkey was not in Europe
>I thought that USA was the greatest country in the world
Which one is the greatest?
Went to mosque after school every weekday to learn about Islam as a kid. Used to think that your life ended after you stopped going to mosque (to learn). You would just die. Weird that I use to think this despite the fact that there were plenty of people around who were alive and did not in fact go to the mosque.
I thought Herodotus was born in like the 20th century because for him to be called the father of history, he must have written the history of most of the world.
I also found it weird that a 20th century guy would have a name like Herodotus and no last name.
I thought New Zealand was in the north of Russia (Novaya Zemlya)
I thought Siberia was a tiny island (Novaya Zemlya)
I thought the Berlin Wall was all around the border of East Germany
I thought Rock Balboa was real
I thought Ireland was in the Balkans
I thought one state in my country (Sonora) was the house of tropical music because a lot of groups used the name "Sonora"
Thought California had jungle because it was so green in the map and because of a group translated as "The Toucans of Tijuana"
I thought the climate phenomenons of "the boy" and "the girl" were in honor of some unknown kid that died in a storm or something
I though Prussia was an extension of Russia
I thought everybody was in war with Germany in ww2 because they saw the labour camps and the starving people and they just wanted to be humanitarians and kill Hitler
>I thought the iron curtain was a giant metal wall across Europe
I pictured a giant iron curtain in the literal sense.
I thought that Greenland was green and Iceland was actually a shithole
Literally falling for medieval Norse propaganda.
I thought Prussia was a Russian colony or something
i thought new york was in hawaii because it sounds asian
Like others in this thread, I didnt know what Prussia was. I thought it was a region between Poland and Russia that they called Prussia, you know like a portmanteau of "Poland" and "Russia"
I was really confused when I later learned that Prussians were Germans.
Columbus discovered that the Earth was round.
I was positive that we had already had ww3, and when my brother told me otherwise I thought he was fricking with me
I believed the current world order to be a fixed state of affairs forever
I believed the moon was made of cheese
I believed that the ‘holocaust’ happened.
Not my fault as it’s the most propagandised fiction in history.
The amount of human effort that has gone into maintaining this lie basically proves that satan is real.
I was utterly convinced Nintendo was an Italian company as a kid because Mario was Italian and Super Mario Sunshine always resembled coastal Italy to me.
I thought a nuclear bomb would destroy half the planet and thought that dropping one out of a Concorde to outrun the explosion to wipe out the terrorists in the middle east was a good idea.
I know it's not history but that's probably the stupidest thing I ever came up with as a kid.
I remember my mum telling me that there was a button called the doomsday button was linked to a nuke in the core of the earth, and that if the world got too shitty they'd press it and blow the planet up.
She also told me the doomsday clock was a clock was a clock that would count down to tell people when the government was going to just randomly nuke cities at various times.
I don't know whether she actually believed this or was just making it up to frick with me.