They did not rule themselves between the time they were conquered by the Achaemenids until they gained independence from Britain, that's more than 2000 years
This applies to literally everyone who is much younger too. You just opened a can of worms
Sumerians since amorite takeover
Akkadians since assyrias fall
Greece since roman conquest
Persia since arab conquest
Canaanites since bronze age
Persia soon went back to Iranic and then Turkic rule under Muslim dynasties. Arabs ruled it for roughly 300 years between the 630s and 930s.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Does iranic = persian?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Does iranic = persian?
It included all types of Iranic dynasties. Cyrus himself was half Median (who founded the Persian Empire), and the Parthians were a separate ethnicity altogether.
Pars/Fars/Persia proper is a region in southern Iran, where Cyrus and his father were Kings of Pars/Persia. Cyrus' mother was the daughter of the Medes Emperor, whom Cyrus ended up conquering to become Emperor himself. Often times its Iranic people that speak Persian that make them Persian, the north in actually isn't originally Persian.
To answer your question, Tajik Persian dynasties did rule Iran. They can be considered both as Persian or as Tajik. Although many will contend that Tajik is synonymous with Persian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He was paternally persian, maternal is irrelevant as rulers across time married women from other groups
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He was paternally persian, maternal is irrelevant as rulers across time married women from other groups
That depends on the rules and norms of the ethnicity itself. Rabbinic israelites follow matrilineal descent.
Cyrus' government incorporated both Median and Persian nobility. As a subject of Media, the Persians were by extension Median to most outsiders until enough time had passed where it was other the ethnic groups now being referred to as Persian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Does iranic = persian?
>Does iranic = persian?
It included all types of Iranic dynasties. Cyrus himself was half Median (who founded the Persian Empire), and the Parthians were a separate ethnicity altogether.
Pars/Fars/Persia proper is a region in southern Iran, where Cyrus and his father were Kings of Pars/Persia. Cyrus' mother was the daughter of the Medes Emperor, whom Cyrus ended up conquering to become Emperor himself. Often times its Iranic people that speak Persian that make them Persian, the north in actually isn't originally Persian.
To answer your question, Tajik Persian dynasties did rule Iran. They can be considered both as Persian or as Tajik. Although many will contend that Tajik is synonymous with Persian.
>Turkic rule
They never ruled as Turkics.
Also learn to spell Iranian, you illiterate homosexual. Imagine being a 50 IQ subhuman getting brainwashed by Wikipedia.
>yeah bro a few thousand beduins replaced millions of native egyptians without a single genocide or displacement event
2 years ago
Anonymous
MENA moment
2 years ago
Anonymous
>low iq deformed kyphotic chinlet responding to the lowest effort baits
>He was paternally persian, maternal is irrelevant as rulers across time married women from other groups
That depends on the rules and norms of the ethnicity itself. Rabbinic israelites follow matrilineal descent.
Cyrus' government incorporated both Median and Persian nobility. As a subject of Media, the Persians were by extension Median to most outsiders until enough time had passed where it was other the ethnic groups now being referred to as Persian.
Generally it's paternal that matters no one cares about maternal
Its not that we are ruled by outisders by force its more that for the majority of history we didnt care
For most of history the number one value an egyptian had was his religion, why should he care that a persian rules him so long as he submits to the gods? Why should he care that his caliph or sultan is an arab or a turk so long as he is prince of believers and a good muslim? Native pharaohs were not any less brutal or authoritarian than the foreign ones (with few exceptions)
Its only recently like a hundred years ago with the nationalist movement that we started to care about that
>Why should he care that his caliph or sultan is an arab or a turk so long as he is prince of believers and a good muslim?
You left out Circassian rulers and Albanian rulers....
Hosni Mubarak never recognized Kosovo, it was finally the Morsi admin that recognized it, a month before being couped. El-Sisi then informally recognizes the Armenian genocide, despite never once speaking on the Circassian Genocide despite Egypt's history being intertwined them; nor spoken about the genocide or mass-killing of Algerians under French colonialism despite it being their own neighbors and ethnic kin.
Why are Egyptians like this??
Mamluks were mercenary thugs who took over many countries and there are other ottoman breakaway officers who established dynasties in other countries
And who cares about genocides ?
>what are countless revolts under foreign rule >what is the only satrapy to gain independence
You are a deformed subhuman Black person and a chinlet. I doubt you know much about history.
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/162253845/#162256011
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/168564326/#168564474
>what are countless revolts under foreign rule >what is the only satrapy to gain independence
You are a deformed subhuman Black person and a chinlet. I doubt you know much about history.
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/162253845/#162256011
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/168564326/#168564474
Fricking beta subhuman
I'm going through your posting history and i have never seen such a subhuman in my life
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/68135502/#68135502
https://desuarchive.org/LULZ/thread/69808205/#69832744
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/XKQFedCAZjvled4AVvNifg/
All aDNA samples prove otherwise
Meanwhile nubians: >Therefore, we adopted a model competition approach, taking pairs of fitting models and adding the source population in one of the fitting models into the reference population set for the other fitting model and evaluating whether it continued to fit. If the model fails, this provides evidence that the source population moved to the reference population set shares genetic drift with the Kulubnarti individuals not present in the other source population, and thus the source moved to the reference set is in some sense genetically closer34,40. Of the three plausible sources determined with the O9 reference set (Levant_BAIA, Anatolia_EBA, and Egypt_published), all models with Levant_BAIA and Anatolia_EBA as the West Eurasian-related source fail when Egypt_published is included in the reference set (p<6.3E−06), and we obtain a fit only when Egypt_published is used as the West Eurasian-related proxy (p=0.87). With this model, we estimate that 60.4±0.5% ancestry in the Kulubnarti Nubians is ancient Egyptian-related.
Ah, Northern Nubians. No shit they'd be more Egyptian than their fellow countrymen to the south, it's like how Southern Egyptians have higher amounts of black African ancestry.
He's kinda right but still managed to get it wrong.
The Black guy in that second row looks distinctly West African, whereas the Black pharaohs who ruled Egypt for a period were Nubian and so looked slightly different. If they were instead Nilotic then it would be an accurate representation.
He's kinda right but still managed to get it wrong.
The Black guy in that second row looks distinctly West African, whereas the Black pharaohs who ruled Egypt for a period were Nubian and so looked slightly different. If they were instead Nilotic then it would be an accurate representation.
nubian n nilotes can look west african, ppl dont realize nubian n nilotes migrate to west africa a lot
Haplogroup e is from the horn not Nubians Cushitic people lived in Sudan and most of East Africa before Nilotics and Bantus came both Nilotics and Bantus probably came from west Africa the original Haplogroup for African Blacks is a and b
2 years ago
Anonymous
not all nubian look cushitic, there are no same nubian look. in sudan they intermarry with nilotes a lot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nilotes came from west Africa
Lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Double lol when you find out that West Africans themselves are descended from a genetically divergent homosexual sapiens population that fused with people from East Africa thousands of years ago (which is why West Africans do not usually have A or B as a haplogroup).
>state that existed for 3000+ years got conquered several times
wow crazy
They did not rule themselves between the time they were conquered by the Achaemenids until they gained independence from Britain, that's more than 2000 years
This applies to literally everyone who is much younger too. You just opened a can of worms
Sumerians since amorite takeover
Akkadians since assyrias fall
Greece since roman conquest
Persia since arab conquest
Canaanites since bronze age
Persia soon went back to Iranic and then Turkic rule under Muslim dynasties. Arabs ruled it for roughly 300 years between the 630s and 930s.
Does iranic = persian?
>Does iranic = persian?
It included all types of Iranic dynasties. Cyrus himself was half Median (who founded the Persian Empire), and the Parthians were a separate ethnicity altogether.
Pars/Fars/Persia proper is a region in southern Iran, where Cyrus and his father were Kings of Pars/Persia. Cyrus' mother was the daughter of the Medes Emperor, whom Cyrus ended up conquering to become Emperor himself. Often times its Iranic people that speak Persian that make them Persian, the north in actually isn't originally Persian.
To answer your question, Tajik Persian dynasties did rule Iran. They can be considered both as Persian or as Tajik. Although many will contend that Tajik is synonymous with Persian.
He was paternally persian, maternal is irrelevant as rulers across time married women from other groups
>He was paternally persian, maternal is irrelevant as rulers across time married women from other groups
That depends on the rules and norms of the ethnicity itself. Rabbinic israelites follow matrilineal descent.
Cyrus' government incorporated both Median and Persian nobility. As a subject of Media, the Persians were by extension Median to most outsiders until enough time had passed where it was other the ethnic groups now being referred to as Persian.
>Turkic rule
They never ruled as Turkics.
Also learn to spell Iranian, you illiterate homosexual. Imagine being a 50 IQ subhuman getting brainwashed by Wikipedia.
>whataboutisim
pathatic
>they gained independence from Britain
>implying modern egyptians aren't just arab invaders
Anon...
>yeah bro a few thousand beduins replaced millions of native egyptians without a single genocide or displacement event
MENA moment
>low iq deformed kyphotic chinlet responding to the lowest effort baits
Generally it's paternal that matters no one cares about maternal
meanwhile britain has been ruled by foreigners since roman times
Its not that we are ruled by outisders by force its more that for the majority of history we didnt care
For most of history the number one value an egyptian had was his religion, why should he care that a persian rules him so long as he submits to the gods? Why should he care that his caliph or sultan is an arab or a turk so long as he is prince of believers and a good muslim? Native pharaohs were not any less brutal or authoritarian than the foreign ones (with few exceptions)
Its only recently like a hundred years ago with the nationalist movement that we started to care about that
>Why should he care that his caliph or sultan is an arab or a turk so long as he is prince of believers and a good muslim?
You left out Circassian rulers and Albanian rulers....
Hosni Mubarak never recognized Kosovo, it was finally the Morsi admin that recognized it, a month before being couped. El-Sisi then informally recognizes the Armenian genocide, despite never once speaking on the Circassian Genocide despite Egypt's history being intertwined them; nor spoken about the genocide or mass-killing of Algerians under French colonialism despite it being their own neighbors and ethnic kin.
Why are Egyptians like this??
Mamluks were mercenary thugs who took over many countries and there are other ottoman breakaway officers who established dynasties in other countries
And who cares about genocides ?
>what are countless revolts under foreign rule
>what is the only satrapy to gain independence
You are a deformed subhuman Black person and a chinlet. I doubt you know much about history.
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/162253845/#162256011
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/168564326/#168564474
Fricking beta subhuman
I'm going through your posting history and i have never seen such a subhuman in my life
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/68135502/#68135502
https://desuarchive.org/LULZ/thread/69808205/#69832744
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/XKQFedCAZjvled4AVvNifg/
>majority of history we didnt care
People still don't care unless people are staving in the streets and dying don't expect most people to revolt in ANY country.
they were pretty mixed as well
All aDNA samples prove otherwise
Meanwhile nubians:
>Therefore, we adopted a model competition approach, taking pairs of fitting models and adding the source population in one of the fitting models into the reference population set for the other fitting model and evaluating whether it continued to fit. If the model fails, this provides evidence that the source population moved to the reference population set shares genetic drift with the Kulubnarti individuals not present in the other source population, and thus the source moved to the reference set is in some sense genetically closer34,40. Of the three plausible sources determined with the O9 reference set (Levant_BAIA, Anatolia_EBA, and Egypt_published), all models with Levant_BAIA and Anatolia_EBA as the West Eurasian-related source fail when Egypt_published is included in the reference set (p<6.3E−06), and we obtain a fit only when Egypt_published is used as the West Eurasian-related proxy (p=0.87). With this model, we estimate that 60.4±0.5% ancestry in the Kulubnarti Nubians is ancient Egyptian-related.
>Kulubnarti
Ah, Northern Nubians. No shit they'd be more Egyptian than their fellow countrymen to the south, it's like how Southern Egyptians have higher amounts of black African ancestry.
False
Kulubnarti is geographically upper/southern nubia (kush)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Nubia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulubnarti#Geography
He's kinda right but still managed to get it wrong.
The Black guy in that second row looks distinctly West African, whereas the Black pharaohs who ruled Egypt for a period were Nubian and so looked slightly different. If they were instead Nilotic then it would be an accurate representation.
nubian n nilotes can look west african, ppl dont realize nubian n nilotes migrate to west africa a lot
forgot the pic
Haplogroup e is from the horn not Nubians Cushitic people lived in Sudan and most of East Africa before Nilotics and Bantus came both Nilotics and Bantus probably came from west Africa the original Haplogroup for African Blacks is a and b
not all nubian look cushitic, there are no same nubian look. in sudan they intermarry with nilotes a lot.
>Nilotes came from west Africa
Lol
Double lol when you find out that West Africans themselves are descended from a genetically divergent homosexual sapiens population that fused with people from East Africa thousands of years ago (which is why West Africans do not usually have A or B as a haplogroup).
>distinctly West African
What is distinctly "West African?" Full lips and short, broad noses are not distinctly West African if that's what you are thinking.