The side with more cavalry or artillery wins every battle. It's irrefutable. Find an exception. You can't.
The side with more cavalry or artillery wins every battle. It's irrefutable. Find an exception. You can't.
The side with more cavalry or artillery wins every battle. It's irrefutable. Find an exception. You can't.
And?
What if one side has more cavalry and the other side has more artillery
Artillery wins. Light brigade
orbital nukes blocks and blocs
How do you measure artillery and cavalry? Must it be effectively engaged in the battle? Napoleon would disprove your claim in a number of cases anyway.
Napoleon was fighting subsidized forces that were just there to die. Every war outside Napoleon follows the rule even at the most pathetic level using wikipedia counts of cavalry and artillery.
Ok how about this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Entzheim
It was inconclusive.
Trust me, his has thrown tons of effort at this and can't find a exception.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rocroi
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lens
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fleurus_(1690)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blenheim
I could have included Rossbach but you would have probably said it was a form of ambush and shouldn’t count.
France has 2 billion tons iron reserves while Spain has 6 million. When iron reserves vary by a thousand the side with more iron wins.
so why hasn't australia conquered the world yet
also if one side has 20 artillery and 5000 cavalry while another has 40 artillery and 3000 cavalry, which side wins
Austalia won basically every war. It's not conquest it's just whether you win wars. America lost the gulf war for example.
Artillery will defeat huge swathes easily, the only exception is Beersheba where human waves defeated a tiny artillery force at huge cost.
Sweden was the only country that mattered in ww2 and Nazis collapsed immediately when iron export stopped.
what about oil, manpower, rubber, coal and other resources
>what about oil
Tank brigades are physically impossible. Most equipment consumes too much oil for it to matter. The entire world hangs on to a tiny amount of oil created in ghawar and 90% of oil in the world is fake. Cars are 20% efficient and 80% filler.
>manpower,
Virtually irrelevant except in extreme human wave scenarios like I mentioned
>rubber,
Virtually irrelevant. Slavery was never profitable and the cost of the food slaves eat is double anything they produce.
>coal and other resources
Coal is a way to apply labor to boost population, it's not a useful resource by itself and even coal steel is useless. All the real iron production was dead by 1850 and anything after is a36 or useless grades. Peak anthracite was 1929 and modern coal is of pitiful quality.
Slaves grew tobacco and sugar which were highly profitable.
>Tank brigades are physically impossible.
explain this, desert storm, military exercises
>The entire world hangs on to a tiny amount of oil created in ghawar
https://thecountriesof.com/top-10-oil-producing-countries-in-the-world-2013-2014/
Saudi Arabia only produces around 13% of the world's oil
>Cars are 20% efficient and 80% filler.
what do you mean by "efficient" and "filler", where do all the cars, trucks and airliners get their energy from if not from oil
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>Virtually irrelevant
in ww2 they had to have mass conscription, why did they bother if manpower was "virtually irrelevant"
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>Virtually irrelevant. Slavery was never profitable
we're talking about the rubber itself, not how it was procured
>the cost of the food slaves eat is double anything they produce
if this were true plantations would go out of business and the slaves would starve since they often grew their own food
>Coal is a way to apply labor to boost population
how does it do this? do people eat coal? does it raise fertility?
>it's not a useful resource by itself and even coal steel is useless
steam engines ran on coal in the industrial revolution and it is still a significant proportion of electricity production
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-sustainability-a-comprehensive-foundation/chapter/fossil-fuels-coal-and-gas/
America lost the gulf war. The rest of your objections are incoherent.
>real iron production was dead by 1850
>Peak anthracite was 1929
we now produce far more iron than we did in 1850, globally we produce far more coal than in 1929, including anthracite coal, coal quality doesn't matter much for energy production
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Johannes-Morfeldt/publication/317345083/figure/fig7/AS:501812610297861@1496652857812/World-crude-steel-production-1900-2016-Source-World-Steel-Association-2017.png
Your stats are obviously fake jidf. If iron was produced then the amount of steel objects in the world would increase.
Pikes. You didn't read.
Archers are artillery. You didn't read.
An idiotic example.
Pikes are neither artillery nor cavalry.
They used wagenburg
>anon BTFOs OP with one example
>"OK well outside of that example I'm still right!"
Ok, what about 1941 Barbarossa? USSR had many more tanks and artillery than Germany and still lost every initial battle
in b4
>OK well outside of those 2 examples I'm still right!!!
Barabarossa is not a battle, the battle was Moscow and they won.
that is a bad example,a Soviet BT would do well in an assault,however they were shit at being mobile bunkers,ironically enough the german tanks were significantly better at this throught the war despite the fact that they were the aggressor
Also it was the Matildas and german horse carts which stopped the germans at moscow
Stalin would've had to shot himself in 1941 or be shot by the NKVD if the germans had better logistics,Germans were demolishing soviet armies left and right until 1942
Also, excluding Napoleon, try to justify this:
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille_d%27Auerstaedt
Done.
Verifiably wrong. Overmechanization can be disastrous.
Look at the war in Ukraine. Russia has double the tanks, double the artillery, but half the infantry.
Lack of infantry means they can't HOLD the land that they take. Infantry is required for urban warfare.
Russia won in Ukraine. It gained territory. How did it lose?
but they can already HOLD the land the took? they even organizing fricking referendums ffs.
Chart of iron reserves for reference, note England depleted.
germany has fewer iron reserves than france, how did it defeat france in ww2
Note that even the reserves have inconsistent definitions (quality, iron content, methodology) but there is still a obvious difference between countries.
Post 19th century British gave everyone iron and it changed the picture.
You wot m8
okay, gaugamela
Greeks had archers. Archers are artillery. Ballistae are what artillery came from.
Because wikipedia doesnt record this there are no numbers but greeks obviously had more artillery than persians.
>Archers are artillery.
This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read anywhere.
They are the same thing. Ranged weapons.
So modern infantry is artillery?
No because the definition of ranged weapons increased.
Next shit take plz
>a few
They don't even give real numbers.
There's no significant battle of any kind there the side with more artillery or cavalry loses, the exceptions you're finding are mostly obscure battles that prove the point anyway.
How the actual frick can you fricking morons not just immediately recognize GDP = tourism schizo at this point? This is so fricking obviously a GDP = tourism schizo thread and yet here you morons are, replying away.
honestly its just part of a bigger problem were even when gays realize its a troll/schizo thread they will still reply anyway, the only time this somewhat worked is when one giga autist btfo'd gdp schizo so hard over his iphone take he actually had to drop it
Qrd or link, usually he just stops posting and lets the thread die or posts "well done jidf"
can't really link it since from what I remember it was through a series of threads were he just grinded him into submission along with it being like two years ago, I do remember his claim was something along the lines of how you can produce an iphone in your home or some shit like that if that helps
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/11319524/#11320506
Jidf got destroyed.
I am honestly intrigued by GDPschizo's theories. I think he may be at least partially right, he's just horrible at presenting it convincingly. How do we actually methodically debunk him?
Why? He's the equivalent of that ancient meme about the absence of pirates causing global warming with his shitty excel regressions and "yeah ok my theory doesn't work but uh well done jidf", at least that schizo rambling about how the Alamo is the Fourth Temple is somewhat entertaining
If there is at the very least a proven significant correlation between the things he talks about, we have to consider it, no?
Why would you waste time considering it? Even he doesn't believe his own bullshit, if he did he wouldn't be gloating about how we're all going to die of peak oil as he posts from his crack den in Las Vegas
Idk about peak oil, but I'll be meditating on this iron thing.
Dude he said we'd all die of peak oil in 6 months like two years ago now and is now saying we'll all die next month and even contradicted himself in another thread by saying that the Battle of Stalingrad had no references before 2000 and then posted a graph showing references dating back to the 1940s. He's just a schizo.
iron is having a port for tourism
Battle of Sudomer, Hussites stood against superior noble troops. Cavalry wasn't able to break through the defence and failed to encircle bohemians because of getting stuck in the mud.
Agincourt
Vietnam
Basically all the objections are moron tier. People thinking america won the gulf war.
There is no response because you didn't read the thread. Because you are mentally moronic, jidf, and did not speak up when the topic was mentioned there is no point in replying to you.
If I explain further, do you promise to commit suicide?
And I am only insulting jidf, not the other people who have good replies.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kutn%C3%A1_Hora
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_V%C3%ADtkov_Hill
cavalry and artillery and pikes all job to Amish.
Nobody cares about sieges.
Still, nobody has found an exception to op.
Those aren’t sieges
They are exceptions to op
They are sieges jidf. They even say it in the article you linked jidf.
There's only a few thousand battles on Wikipedia so you've pretty much tapped everything.
>use wagons as fortifications
>this makes it a siege
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Golden_Spurs
>less pikes
>less artillery
>less cav
>still wins
Also
Acentejo where Stone Age Men BTFO pike cav and artillery
That is clearly more pikes winning, it's the ultimate example of pike warfare.
Of the 6,000 or so battles on Wikipedia, about half of them have information, half of them would win through chance, then half of them have a large numerical disparity and half of those are in a contrary direction.
So that's 300 battles jidf could even find. Then of those half are in the modern period where artillery obviously dominates. So 100 battles where you could even look for exceptions.
Then 50 are sieges and 20 are colonial bullshit so jidf has already in these 70 replies used every attempt at counter example it can find.
Pharsalus
Still insane that Caesar managed to win that
>Actually productive thread on the East African Federation that had legitimate takes and insight got deleted
>This shitposting thread by a literal schizo who's already been banned at least twice is still up
Gdp=tourism schizo is range banned but he purchased a shit ton of vpns and ips just to keep posting
No I'm still just a phone poster.
Stop using T-mobile.
Even if I did buy a vpn it would be for stack exchange and other sites with effective van systems. IQfy bans take no effort to bypass.
Switch to Verizon.
That makes sense but society is collapsing too fast for it to matter.
this is the most amount of sincere engagement with gdp=tourism schizo I've seen yet
he's getting better
Militarygays are easily baited. Its why /k/ is easily trollable.
Jidf is easily baited. That's why his is easily trollable.
Jidf tried to slide this thread. It failed as always.
Is the GDP schizo the same one that spammed that black crime=density shit? Feels similar.
yes