Is it pseudo science or true science?
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If it's about habit reinforcement it's true science.
true pseudo science
What makes it pseudo-science?
It's good as are the other books like it. We need more productivity talk here.
What other books do you recommend?
Since there seems to be actually interesting, Getting Things Done is a good one. I'm actually trying to get started on a plan myself so I'd love some other anons on board
I'm not OP but Zero to One and The Tools of Titans
Based. /sfg/ Self Help General when?
*/shg/
pseudo-science
It’s a good book, but don’t fall into the “self help trap.”
Much better to focus your effort on learning specific things. Like whatever your job is, buy ten+ books that are catered to your job/industry instead of generic self-help books.
But if you're starting, you should start with the fundamentals, which will be useful for everything.
Yes, agreed. Like maybe pick 1 self-help book for every book you read that’s more targeted.
Also in your sentence the dot goes after the quote.
All self-help books are scams if you're not already a specific personality
>All self-help books are scams if you're not already a specific personality
And you know this how?
Basically you can give full account of all self help books in a 20 minutes ted talk
I've heard it's too theoretical and doesn't really teach to put things into practice. I'm currently reading Atomic Habits and it draws a lot from that an many other books. I recommend it so far. But like other anons say, only read this if you're struggling with habits right now. Don't waste time reading self help, most of it is crap.
Read this book but not this post, most of it is ACTUALLY crap
Do spirituality books count as self-help crap?
Well self-help books are not all crap. Certain spiritual books can be but it really just depends.
No, they are even better, because most self-help books are dumbed down derivatives of teachings from spiritual leaders and classical philosophers.
Christies here actually unironically buy into this. They don't want to admit it though
I think my problem is being a braindead zoomer addicted to technology, with the solution being avoiding it. If I manage to do so is a whole other thing.
I'm seconding what a lot of people say. Read Ellul and other philosophers. Understanding technology is a step in the right direct. At least you admit to being a braindead zoomer addict. It's ok you surely aren't the only on here. We've got your back anon.
Thanks for the rec. I know about about Adorno (tried reading Dialect of Enlightenment but found it too confusing), Guy Debord's Society of Spectacle, Thoreau's Walden, Uncle Ted's Manifesto etc. but have never heard of this Ellul guy. Is his subject matter different from these other guys?
And by "know about" I mean have heard of, didn't read any of their stuff.
Other anons might be able to help you better on some of these philosophers. You might try Adrono's The Culture Industry. Ellul writes on technology but also has works on faith and religion which people say are meant to be paired together. You can take what you want from Elull though honestly. I'm just glad to see a bit of a self-help thread starting to take off here.
>read ted, has never heard of Ellul
It's not surprising actually if you stop to think about it.
Many such cases.
Marie Kondo's books/
Some anon recommended me a book called Learned Optimism many years ago and it changed my life. Despite the corny title, it’s actually about a guy who studied a gazillion people in high stress fields and tried to determine the mechanisms behind optimistic/pessimistic ways of thought and how they come to be.
The author himself refuses to call it self help, since he isn’t offering any magical cure, just helping you identify negative thought cycles and minimize/stop them.
>Learned Optimism
Thanks Martin Seligman looks interesting
>since he isn’t offering any magical cure, just helping you identify negative thought cycles and minimize/stop them.
i never heard of that book but i also trying to change my pessimistic outlook on life since i´ve read a book on how to get a gf and one of the things the author said that being whinny and negative is a chick repellent so that made me change my mindset, still it´s a work in progress of course
and also, i´m forcing myself to have a good outlook of myself, specially when i feel small
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and his work on flow
Seems organization is a problem amongst a lot of anons here.
I assume we all have dirty rooms and memories like elephants so we see little point in keeping shit tidy when you know where everything is
Nah my room isn't that bad and it helps a lot
>read Deep Work
>"We live in such a shallow world, maybe try deep work."
>"Did you know that [big figure] really likes deep work?"
>"Distractions are bad, that's why you need deep work."
>"With deep work, you can reach deeper into things."
>"Did I mention distractions? Read the story of this boomer who got overwhelmed by e-mails."
>"It is better to go deep into things because going deep allows you to deepen your knowledge."
>"Jobs do not value deep work, you should value deep work."
>"Deep work is deeper than non-deep work. Working deeply deepens the work."
Thanks for the summary anon.
It's actually a lot deeper of a book than anon lets on!
>>"Did I mention distractions? Read the story of this boomer who got overwhelmed by e-mails."
kekked out loud
>>read Deep Work
>>"We live in such a shallow world, maybe try deep work."
>>"Did you know that [big figure] really likes deep work?"
>>"Distractions are bad, that's why you need deep work."
>>"With deep work, you can reach deeper into things."
>>"Did I mention distractions? Read the story of this boomer who got overwhelmed by e-mails."
>>"It is better to go deep into things because going deep allows you to deepen your knowledge."
>>"Jobs do not value deep work, you should value deep work."
>>"Deep work is deeper than non-deep work. Working deeply deepens the work."
A shallow book on deep work lmao. I don't get why people write, sell, and buy these books. I've read a few of these "NYT best sellers" and they're all complete shit. I think you can condense them in 1 paragraph each.
It's not hard science, nor do it need to be bugman.
Read this one and dropped it half way through. Author just says shit everybody knows:
>gotta focus
>organize your phone
>remove notifications
>wear a flower crown on your head so people know now to bother you
>10 minute rule, if you wanna pick up your phone wait 10 minutes and see if you still wanna do it
>arrange meetings with people twice a month to discuss a random topic and call it kibbutz
Most "productivity" shit, I feel, is just stuff that everybody already knows but can't put into practice. I found it interesting when he told that if you give an iPod to someone and say he can only listen to his music while on the gym then he'll go to the gym.
Interesting. I think you just proved how distractable you are and how much you actually need to finish the book though.
I mean I dropped it because it was telling me shit I already know I have to do, not because I was distracted.
It's okay. The first thing to do in this thread is to admit you have a problem anon.
No problem with admitting that, though.
It was probably the stupidest book on focusing/productivity that I ever read, and I've read a lot of them.
>I've read a lot of them.
lmao
How do you fix this without a father in the household?
Having a sit down talk with him over the divorce and his issues would be a good start.
Not having good parents really does fricking suck.
Could you rec a better one? I started reading it because it was mentioned on another book, Hell Yeah or No, which is not good, either, and which I've started reading because the author posted on Hacker News.
never read that book but all you need to know is habit creates discipline and discipline will get you places
I'm graduating with an engineering degree from a good uni next year with an almost 100k starting salary at a company I interned for and have never read one of these books in my life.
If you need this kind of shit just to be productive and act like a normal human being who people don't think is a freak then you are already far beyond what any number of those books can do for you.
Oh look a bugman, or at least someone LARPing as one. How sad. They make boards for you though.
low IQ stemlord bugman
and I say this as a fellow ITgay, but at least I'm not a bugman. I'm racist, anti-semitic and anti-bugmanhood
this
Yeah it's so hard to have a good thread anymore without someone coming in and screeching.
> heuristics
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read in the worst tone possible, god what a shit boring book, could learn all you need from a paragraph, but nooo, need disjointed boring stories
you just described 99% of books
especially self-help shit