he's right in a way, there's no need for the usual butthurt fight
2 years ago
Anonymous
People who usually say that tend to be the kind who consider that Etruscans, Trojans, Sumerians, Natives Americans, even the damn ANE wuz Turks and that's there exists a whole plot which goal is to hide the fact that Turks actually invented civilization. So that's gonna be 'yikes' for me.
he's right in a way, there's no need for the usual butthurt fight
He's not right in any way. All of R1a in the existence came from IE related groups, be it from Eastern Europe or Central Asia. But still Indo-European related. R1a is not like R1b. - The only R1a is IE in origin.
Turks may cope all they want, they are mostly Anatolian anyway, not even Turkic.
Nah. There are probably some non-IE subclades. In fact, some Euro HGs had them I think.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There are probably some non-IE subclades. In fact, some Euro HGs had them I think.
Yeah, the EHG daddies of IE from Northern Russia lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Probably not, there is very little R1a that isn't under z645.
In pre-eneolithic samples it also tended be localized further west than R1b (Ukraine/Baltics)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R1a/
Turks confirmed for being IE rapebabies
R1a is a Turkic haplogroup
lol
he's right in a way, there's no need for the usual butthurt fight
People who usually say that tend to be the kind who consider that Etruscans, Trojans, Sumerians, Natives Americans, even the damn ANE wuz Turks and that's there exists a whole plot which goal is to hide the fact that Turks actually invented civilization. So that's gonna be 'yikes' for me.
The frick it is.
He's not right in any way. All of R1a in the existence came from IE related groups, be it from Eastern Europe or Central Asia. But still Indo-European related. R1a is not like R1b. - The only R1a is IE in origin.
Turks may cope all they want, they are mostly Anatolian anyway, not even Turkic.
IEs may cope all they want, they are mostly Anatolian anyway, not even Yamnaya.
this is funny cause Yamnaya didn't contribute to anything, let alone europe
Yamnaya created wypipo
maybe in the mind of joomers and golems, but definitely not irl, bell beakers R1b subclade isn't related to yamnaya
Nah. There are probably some non-IE subclades. In fact, some Euro HGs had them I think.
>There are probably some non-IE subclades. In fact, some Euro HGs had them I think.
Yeah, the EHG daddies of IE from Northern Russia lol
Probably not, there is very little R1a that isn't under z645.
In pre-eneolithic samples it also tended be localized further west than R1b (Ukraine/Baltics)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R1a/
You need subclades. It might be something non-IE.
Yup, M73 probably isn't Indo-European, but maybe came from Europe. Some Baltic HGs have ancestral clades, it also shows up in Botai.
>You need subclades.
agreed
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y13200/
This is the M73 R1b.
Sarikolis
Mongols have some R1b PH155 too