Diary of a madman is pure genius, same with the portrait and the overcoat, overcoats like Dickensian schizophrenia, the carriage is just funny, and viy mogs Poe
Poe and Gogol are pretty different and as much as I love Gogol, he doesn’t have the philosophical depth of Poe. It’s a shame how when people think of Poe, they think of stories like The Telltale Heart and not Ligeia
I need to someday remake (improve) this chart. It's clear that the person who made this chart just got entries from surreal goodread recommendations. Many of the books are great, but theirs some weird exclusions.
It is insanely based, though, to put Hearing Trumpet first. It would probably be a personal favorite IQfy book if we didn't have so many incels running around.
What should I read first from this list? I have no frame of reference or knowledge of surreal literature. The covers look cool though and that's usually a good way to judge a book.
Yes. There was a surrealist art movement in the 1920s and 30s, its leader was considered by many to be Andre Breton. It drew heavily from psychoanalysis, so their focus wasn't on weirdness per se, but on manifesting the unconscious mind through art. They took inspiration from dreams and techniques like automatic writing. So I'd guess that most of the writers whose style would be described as surreal or surrealist drew inspiration from said early 1900s movement, including many of the writers on the chart op posted, like Leonora Carrington (although Comte de Lautréamont predated the surrealists and actually influenced them) Then again, nowadays that term is often used synonymously with weird and dreamlike...
To add to this anons post. Surrealism is also very heavily anti-fascist politically. While fascist art was a tradiontlist style and glorification of the state. Surrealism would counteract that sentimentality with individualism and the combined collective over hostile forces that constrain the mind
Stella Maris
Nohow on trilogy
Inland (Murnane's)
Trout fishing in America
Making of Americans
In the Labyrinth by Grillet
Age of wire and string by Ben Marcus
Impressions of Africa
Plus by McElroy
Probably A Book of Tongues by Gemma Files. Gay outlaw preacher with bible magic sacrifices himself and his gay outlaw gunslinger lover to an Aztec goddess for immortality or some shit. I loved it.
>Foreweird by Michael Moorwiener >Introduction by Ann and Jeff VanderMeer >Alfred Kubin, The Other Side (excerpt), 1908 (translation, Austria) >F. Marion Crawford, The Screaming Skull, 1908 >Algernon Blackwood, The Willows, 1907 >Saki, Sredni Vashtar, 1910 >M.R. James, Casting the Runes, 1911 >Lord Dunsany, How Nuth Would Have Practiced his Art, 1912 >Gustav Meyrink, The Man in the Bottle, 1912 (translation, Austria) >Georg Heym, The Dissection, 1913 (new translation, Germany) >Hanns Heinz Ewers, The Spider, 1915 (translation, Germany) >Rabindranath Tagore, The Hungry Stones, 1916 (India) >Luigi Ugolini, The Vegetable Man, 1917 (first translation, Italy) >A. Merritt, The People of the Pit, 1918 >Ryunosuke Akutagawa, The Hell Screen, 1917 (new translation, Japan) >Francis Stevens (Gertrude Barrows Bennett), Unseen—Unfeared, 1919 >Franz Kafka, In the Penal Colony, 1919 (translation, German/Czech) >Stefan Grabinski, The White Weyrak, 1921 (translation, Poland) >H.F. Arnold, The Night Wire, 1926 >H.P. Lovecraft, The Dunwich Horror, 1929 >Margaret Irwin, The Book, 1930 >Jean Ray, The Mainz Psalter, 1930 (translation, Belgium) >Jean Ray, The Shadowy Street, 1931 (translation, Belgium) >Clark Ashton Smith, Genius Loci, 1933 >Hagiwara Sakutaro, The Town of Cats, 1935 (translation, Japan) >Hugh Walpole, The Tarn, 1936 >Bruno Schulz, Sanatorium at the Sign of the Hourglass, 1937 (translation, Poland) >Robert Barbour Johnson, Far Below, 1939 >Fritz Leiber, Smoke Ghost, 1941 >Leonora Carrington, White Rabbits, 1941 >Donald Wollheim, Mimic, 1942 >Ray Bradbury, The Crowd, 1943 >William Sansom, The Long Sheet, 1944 >Jorge Luis Borges, The Aleph, 1945 (translation, Argentina) >Olympe Bhely-Quenum, A Child in the Bush of Ghosts, 1949 (Benin) >Shirley Jackson, The Summer People, 1950 >Margaret St. Clair, The Man Who Sold Rope to the Gnoles, 1951 >Robert Bloch, The Hungry House, 1951 >Augusto Monterroso, Mister Taylor, 1952 (new translation, Guatemala) >Amos Tutuola, The Complete Gentleman, 1952 (Nigeria) >Jerome Bixby, It's a Good Life, 1953 >Julio Cortázar, Axolotl, 1956 (new translation, Argentina) >William Sansom, A Woman Seldom Found, 1956 >Charles Beaumont, The Howling Man, 1959 >Mervyn Peake, Same Time, Same Place, 1963 >Dino Buzzati, The Colomber, 1966 (new translation, Italy) >Michel Bernanos, The Other Side of the Mountain, 1967 (new translation, France) >Merce Rodoreda, The Salamander, 1967 (translation, Catalan) >Claude Seignolle, The Ghoulbird, 1967 (new translation, France) >Gahan Wilson, The Sea Was Wet As Wet Could Be, 1967 >Daphne Du Maurier, Don’t Look Now, 1971 >Robert Aickman, The Hospice, 1975 >Dennis Etchison, It Only Comes Out at Night, 1976
>James Tiptree Jr. (Alice Sheldon), The Psychologist Who Wouldn’t Do Terrible Things to Rats, 1976 >Eric Basso, The Beak Doctor, 1977 >Jamaica Kincaid, Mother, 1978 (Antigua and Barbuda/US) >George R.R. Martin, Sandkings, 1979 >Bob Leman, Window, 1980 >Ramsey Campbell, The Brood, 1980 >Michael Shea, The Autopsy, 1980 >William Gibson / John Shirley, The Belonging Kind, 1981 >M. John Harrison, Egnaro, 1981 >Joanna Russ, The Little Dirty Girl, 1982 >M. John Harrison, The New Rays, 1982 >Premendra Mitra, The Discovery of Telenapota, 1984 (translation, India) >F. Paul Wilson, Soft, 1984 >Octavia Butler, Bloodchild, 1984 >Clive Barker, In the Hills, the Cities, 1984 >Leena Krohn, Tainaron, 1985 (translation, Finland) >Garry Kilworth, Hogfoot Right and Bird-hands, 1987 >Lucius Shepard, Shades, 1987 >Harlan Ellison, The Function of Dream Sleep, 1988 >Ben Okri, Worlds That Flourish, 1988 (Nigeria) >Elizabeth Hand, The Boy in the Tree, 1989 >Joyce Carol Oates, Family, 1989 >Poppy Z Brite, His Mouth Will Taste of Wormwood, 1990 >Michal Ajvaz, The End of the Garden, 1991 (translation, Czech) >Karen Joy Fowler, The Dark, 1991 >Kathe Koja, Angels in Love, 1991 >Haruki Murakami, The Ice Man, 1991 (translation, Japan) >Lisa Tuttle, Replacements, 1992 >Marc Laidlaw, The Diane Arbus Suicide Portfolio, 1993 >Steven Utley, The Country Doctor, 1993 >William Browning Spencer, The Ocean and All Its Devices, 1994 >Jeffrey Ford, The Delicate, 1994 >Martin Simpson, Last Rites and Resurrections, 1994 >Stephen King, The Man in the Black Suit, 1994 >Angela Carter, The Snow Pavilion, 1995 >Craig Padawer, The Meat Garden, 1996 >Stepan Chapman, The Stiff and the Stile, 1997 >Tanith Lee, Yellow and Red, 1998 >Kelly Link, The Specialist’s Hat, 1998 >Caitlin R. Kiernan, A Redress for Andromeda, 2000 >Michael Chabon, The God of Dark Laughter, 2001 >China Miéville, Details, 2002 >Michael Cisco, The Genius of Assassins, 2002 >Neil Gaiman, Feeders and Eaters, 2002 >Jeff VanderMeer, The Cage, 2002 >Jeffrey Ford, The Beautiful Gelreesh, 2003 >Thomas Ligotti, The Town Manager, 2003 >Brian Evenson, The Brotherhood of Mutilation, 2003 >Mark Samuels, The White Hands, 2003 >Daniel Abraham, Flat Diane, 2004 >Margo Lanagan, Singing My Sister Down, 2005 (Australia) >T.M. Wright, The People on the Island, 2005 >Laird Barron, The Forest, 2007 >Liz Williams, The Hide, 2007 >Reza Negarestani, The Dust Enforcer, 2008 (Iran) >Micaela Morrissette, The Familiars, 2009 >Steve Duffy, In the Lion’s Den, 2009 >Stephen Graham Jones, Little Lambs, 2009 >K.J. Bishop, Saving the Gleeful Horse, 2010 (Australia) >Afterweird by China Miéville
>The introduction notes that certain stories were not included because of problems with obtaining the reproduction rights, but that the editors considered these stories as an extension of the anthology: Philip K. Dick's The Preserving Machine, J. G. Ballard's The Drowned Giant, Gabriel García Márquez's A Very Old Man with Enormous Wings and Otsuichi's The White House in the Cold Forest.
Pretty funny how the creator of this chart admitted to only reading three of the books on the chart and conceded he had never heard of the surrealist literary movement. Fricking morons
Anybody else read this while gooning to sissy hypno? Marx would be so proud.
have you actually read it?
I have. And it's dumb.
but I'd bet the moon you havent.
If you look at that image for 4 seconds you will go blind.
The Trial. Felt like a fever dream, very funny read, would recommend
The Employees by Olga Ravn
a spaceship meant for research but the crew members keep huffing eggs
they huffing braps?
Good to see this insane manlet made the chart.
holy frick I haven't seen this guy in a minute. there used to be at least one Alfred Janny thread every day
where can i download his translated works?
>No Nikolai Gogol
Diary of a madman is pure genius, same with the portrait and the overcoat, overcoats like Dickensian schizophrenia, the carriage is just funny, and viy mogs Poe
Poe and Gogol are pretty different and as much as I love Gogol, he doesn’t have the philosophical depth of Poe. It’s a shame how when people think of Poe, they think of stories like The Telltale Heart and not Ligeia
ANYTHING By Juan Emar. Shit is so deep you can get lost reading into the interpretations.
I need to someday remake (improve) this chart. It's clear that the person who made this chart just got entries from surreal goodread recommendations. Many of the books are great, but theirs some weird exclusions.
It is insanely based, though, to put Hearing Trumpet first. It would probably be a personal favorite IQfy book if we didn't have so many incels running around.
My contributions.
Try to get 100 hundred books on it but also try to do only 1 book per author.
Also, add Naked Lunch by Burroughs.
I'll add it. Also, yeah, 100 authors is a good idea, but I'm totally adding Calvino more than once since I'm a hack
What should I read first from this list? I have no frame of reference or knowledge of surreal literature. The covers look cool though and that's usually a good way to judge a book.
Kafka
Paged through a user manual for a scam "bioenergie" machine from a German cult that somehow ended up at my local used book store.
Is there actual definition to “surrealist” other than just “weird and dream-like”?
How authors in that chart would reject the word surrealist?
Yes. There was a surrealist art movement in the 1920s and 30s, its leader was considered by many to be Andre Breton. It drew heavily from psychoanalysis, so their focus wasn't on weirdness per se, but on manifesting the unconscious mind through art. They took inspiration from dreams and techniques like automatic writing. So I'd guess that most of the writers whose style would be described as surreal or surrealist drew inspiration from said early 1900s movement, including many of the writers on the chart op posted, like Leonora Carrington (although Comte de Lautréamont predated the surrealists and actually influenced them) Then again, nowadays that term is often used synonymously with weird and dreamlike...
To add to this anons post. Surrealism is also very heavily anti-fascist politically. While fascist art was a tradiontlist style and glorification of the state. Surrealism would counteract that sentimentality with individualism and the combined collective over hostile forces that constrain the mind
Add:
Stella Maris
Nohow on trilogy
Inland (Murnane's)
Trout fishing in America
Making of Americans
In the Labyrinth by Grillet
Age of wire and string by Ben Marcus
Impressions of Africa
Plus by McElroy
Here is the image in good resolution
Where's house of Black personleaves
Thanks
I can recommend Obscene Bird. It's like 100 Years of Solitude on benadryl
>The Opposing Shore
Bleh
Could never finish it, its just too schizo
Probably A Book of Tongues by Gemma Files. Gay outlaw preacher with bible magic sacrifices himself and his gay outlaw gunslinger lover to an Aztec goddess for immortality or some shit. I loved it.
Anyone read The Green Man by Herbert Read?
*The Green Child
Pardon me
Ice by Anna Kavan is pretty weird.
I don't like surreal stuff, though, so I didn't finish it (nor have I read much to compare it to).
>Foreweird by Michael Moorwiener
>Introduction by Ann and Jeff VanderMeer
>Alfred Kubin, The Other Side (excerpt), 1908 (translation, Austria)
>F. Marion Crawford, The Screaming Skull, 1908
>Algernon Blackwood, The Willows, 1907
>Saki, Sredni Vashtar, 1910
>M.R. James, Casting the Runes, 1911
>Lord Dunsany, How Nuth Would Have Practiced his Art, 1912
>Gustav Meyrink, The Man in the Bottle, 1912 (translation, Austria)
>Georg Heym, The Dissection, 1913 (new translation, Germany)
>Hanns Heinz Ewers, The Spider, 1915 (translation, Germany)
>Rabindranath Tagore, The Hungry Stones, 1916 (India)
>Luigi Ugolini, The Vegetable Man, 1917 (first translation, Italy)
>A. Merritt, The People of the Pit, 1918
>Ryunosuke Akutagawa, The Hell Screen, 1917 (new translation, Japan)
>Francis Stevens (Gertrude Barrows Bennett), Unseen—Unfeared, 1919
>Franz Kafka, In the Penal Colony, 1919 (translation, German/Czech)
>Stefan Grabinski, The White Weyrak, 1921 (translation, Poland)
>H.F. Arnold, The Night Wire, 1926
>H.P. Lovecraft, The Dunwich Horror, 1929
>Margaret Irwin, The Book, 1930
>Jean Ray, The Mainz Psalter, 1930 (translation, Belgium)
>Jean Ray, The Shadowy Street, 1931 (translation, Belgium)
>Clark Ashton Smith, Genius Loci, 1933
>Hagiwara Sakutaro, The Town of Cats, 1935 (translation, Japan)
>Hugh Walpole, The Tarn, 1936
>Bruno Schulz, Sanatorium at the Sign of the Hourglass, 1937 (translation, Poland)
>Robert Barbour Johnson, Far Below, 1939
>Fritz Leiber, Smoke Ghost, 1941
>Leonora Carrington, White Rabbits, 1941
>Donald Wollheim, Mimic, 1942
>Ray Bradbury, The Crowd, 1943
>William Sansom, The Long Sheet, 1944
>Jorge Luis Borges, The Aleph, 1945 (translation, Argentina)
>Olympe Bhely-Quenum, A Child in the Bush of Ghosts, 1949 (Benin)
>Shirley Jackson, The Summer People, 1950
>Margaret St. Clair, The Man Who Sold Rope to the Gnoles, 1951
>Robert Bloch, The Hungry House, 1951
>Augusto Monterroso, Mister Taylor, 1952 (new translation, Guatemala)
>Amos Tutuola, The Complete Gentleman, 1952 (Nigeria)
>Jerome Bixby, It's a Good Life, 1953
>Julio Cortázar, Axolotl, 1956 (new translation, Argentina)
>William Sansom, A Woman Seldom Found, 1956
>Charles Beaumont, The Howling Man, 1959
>Mervyn Peake, Same Time, Same Place, 1963
>Dino Buzzati, The Colomber, 1966 (new translation, Italy)
>Michel Bernanos, The Other Side of the Mountain, 1967 (new translation, France)
>Merce Rodoreda, The Salamander, 1967 (translation, Catalan)
>Claude Seignolle, The Ghoulbird, 1967 (new translation, France)
>Gahan Wilson, The Sea Was Wet As Wet Could Be, 1967
>Daphne Du Maurier, Don’t Look Now, 1971
>Robert Aickman, The Hospice, 1975
>Dennis Etchison, It Only Comes Out at Night, 1976
>James Tiptree Jr. (Alice Sheldon), The Psychologist Who Wouldn’t Do Terrible Things to Rats, 1976
>Eric Basso, The Beak Doctor, 1977
>Jamaica Kincaid, Mother, 1978 (Antigua and Barbuda/US)
>George R.R. Martin, Sandkings, 1979
>Bob Leman, Window, 1980
>Ramsey Campbell, The Brood, 1980
>Michael Shea, The Autopsy, 1980
>William Gibson / John Shirley, The Belonging Kind, 1981
>M. John Harrison, Egnaro, 1981
>Joanna Russ, The Little Dirty Girl, 1982
>M. John Harrison, The New Rays, 1982
>Premendra Mitra, The Discovery of Telenapota, 1984 (translation, India)
>F. Paul Wilson, Soft, 1984
>Octavia Butler, Bloodchild, 1984
>Clive Barker, In the Hills, the Cities, 1984
>Leena Krohn, Tainaron, 1985 (translation, Finland)
>Garry Kilworth, Hogfoot Right and Bird-hands, 1987
>Lucius Shepard, Shades, 1987
>Harlan Ellison, The Function of Dream Sleep, 1988
>Ben Okri, Worlds That Flourish, 1988 (Nigeria)
>Elizabeth Hand, The Boy in the Tree, 1989
>Joyce Carol Oates, Family, 1989
>Poppy Z Brite, His Mouth Will Taste of Wormwood, 1990
>Michal Ajvaz, The End of the Garden, 1991 (translation, Czech)
>Karen Joy Fowler, The Dark, 1991
>Kathe Koja, Angels in Love, 1991
>Haruki Murakami, The Ice Man, 1991 (translation, Japan)
>Lisa Tuttle, Replacements, 1992
>Marc Laidlaw, The Diane Arbus Suicide Portfolio, 1993
>Steven Utley, The Country Doctor, 1993
>William Browning Spencer, The Ocean and All Its Devices, 1994
>Jeffrey Ford, The Delicate, 1994
>Martin Simpson, Last Rites and Resurrections, 1994
>Stephen King, The Man in the Black Suit, 1994
>Angela Carter, The Snow Pavilion, 1995
>Craig Padawer, The Meat Garden, 1996
>Stepan Chapman, The Stiff and the Stile, 1997
>Tanith Lee, Yellow and Red, 1998
>Kelly Link, The Specialist’s Hat, 1998
>Caitlin R. Kiernan, A Redress for Andromeda, 2000
>Michael Chabon, The God of Dark Laughter, 2001
>China Miéville, Details, 2002
>Michael Cisco, The Genius of Assassins, 2002
>Neil Gaiman, Feeders and Eaters, 2002
>Jeff VanderMeer, The Cage, 2002
>Jeffrey Ford, The Beautiful Gelreesh, 2003
>Thomas Ligotti, The Town Manager, 2003
>Brian Evenson, The Brotherhood of Mutilation, 2003
>Mark Samuels, The White Hands, 2003
>Daniel Abraham, Flat Diane, 2004
>Margo Lanagan, Singing My Sister Down, 2005 (Australia)
>T.M. Wright, The People on the Island, 2005
>Laird Barron, The Forest, 2007
>Liz Williams, The Hide, 2007
>Reza Negarestani, The Dust Enforcer, 2008 (Iran)
>Micaela Morrissette, The Familiars, 2009
>Steve Duffy, In the Lion’s Den, 2009
>Stephen Graham Jones, Little Lambs, 2009
>K.J. Bishop, Saving the Gleeful Horse, 2010 (Australia)
>Afterweird by China Miéville
>The introduction notes that certain stories were not included because of problems with obtaining the reproduction rights, but that the editors considered these stories as an extension of the anthology: Philip K. Dick's The Preserving Machine, J. G. Ballard's The Drowned Giant, Gabriel García Márquez's A Very Old Man with Enormous Wings and Otsuichi's The White House in the Cold Forest.
Darius James - Blackphobia is like a fever dream through a Jim Crow museum while on meth
Would any of Beckett’s work be considered surrealist?
Absurdist. The Theatre of the Absurd is pretty similar to surrealism though so something like Endgame fits in this kind of conversation
I would add:
>Mumbo Jumbo by Ishmael Reed
>The Illuminatus! Trilogy
>The Crying of Lot 49
WMAF erotica
The fact that no one here has said Finnegan’s Wake yet means you’re all frauds.
Pretty funny how the creator of this chart admitted to only reading three of the books on the chart and conceded he had never heard of the surrealist literary movement. Fricking morons