What convinced you of the reality of abstract objects?
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The neat correspondence between mathematics and physics
Abstract objects don't have to exist for us to do math. It's like arguing that a lion hunting a buffalo doesn't know the difference btn one and two and that counting did not exist before humans came along.
They kind of do though. Physics has to work with either particles, waves, or fields existing as abstract objects to hang its math on
That doesn't mean they exist. We have to scare children with monsters in the night and santa claus, do these exist?
>It's like arguing that a lion hunting a buffalo doesn't know the difference btn one and two and that counting did not exist before humans came along.
This is very unclear phrasing, and so I don't know what the everloving frick your point was; yet I still feel that you need to know:
Animals such as bees and fish can count. Numerosity was ecologically relevant since before we colonized land, and can be implemented by simple neural circuits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sense_in_animals#Approximate_number_and_parallel_individuation_systems
Human brains are just scaled-up primate brains. Even the brain's language area isn't special in humans, it enlarged just as much as the rest of the brain, rather than proportionally more: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.24712
That doesn't prove that numbers exist moron.
Isn't this a case of numbers simply being effective descriptors as opposed to being objects in and of themselves?
>develop abstract new concepts in math
>many decades later they then out to yield an elegant description of physics
Coincidence, huh?
>Develop abstract concept to simplify reality
>Other field also based on similar abstract concepts produces similar results
Wow! Science is so real!
So you admit that abstract concepts are part of reality, and hence ... real?
No?
Then how can an abstract concept simplify reality?
I never said it did simplify reality but that is the stated goal of math and physics. Of course both of them would agree on certain points lol. Physics is based entirely on math. Doesn’t mean that either of them are “real”
>Physics is based entirely on math
This is what math plebs actually want to believe, lmao
Don’t worry, they are both moronic games to distract Chinese children
When all the girls started getting nose rings at the same time I realized they were all in communication with the same formal object of alt-woman from beyond
More white sauce please
Post the Elon version
this one?
amazing upgrade
I prefer left.
literally, unironically soul vs. soulless
No there was a version of the meme video of her but with Elon Musk's face
The british accent
Plato
weep, midwits
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77855-9
>We present an information-theoretic approach to the optimal representation of the intrinsic dimensionality of data and show it is a noninteger. Since optimality is accepted as a physical principle, this provides a theoretical explanation for why noninteger dimensions are useful in many branches of physics, where they have been introduced based on experimental considerations. Noninteger dimensions correlate with lesser density as in the Hausdorff dimension and this can have measurable effects. We use the lower density of noninteger dimension to resolve the problem of two different values of the Hubble constant obtained using different methods.
what do these words mean
give us more grant money and we can help your build a better bomb
Bombs are abstract objects. Have you ever seen an atomic bomb? Or an actual atomic explosion?
Frick off word salad man
Well:
P1. They are inside my head
P2. I have a head
P3. I am real
//
C1. Things inside my head are real
Next question
None of those propositions are provable.
>hylic moronation
I wonder what it's like being subzero iq
Sure dumbass. Calling me low iq will win you the argument. You must be toasting some sparkling water to your broke self in your mom's basement as we speak.
hey isn't that the chick in that one webm?
Black folk
Whose the chick btw
that halal truck brazilian meme girl i think?
Abstract objects exist in the same category as consciousness, it's just language. It "exists" because it explains how human matter behaves
I beleive consciousness is primary in the universe, a metaphysical axiom which neatly sidesteps this question.
Nothing really did, they’re just categories
Because I literally am an abstract object which exists
There are no abstract objects, but there are certainly parts of atoms were bonds occur and bonds end. These unified parts are objects.
Have you seen these atoms and bonds? Genuinely curious
I'm blind. I can't see shit
I can feel them. I know my hand is bonded to my arm, but my hand is not bonded to my phone. My phone is something discrete, unlike my hand and arm.
They're nonexistent. Democritus' influence on present day metaphysics is overdue for some abject erasure.
we have photographs, homie
Photographs are merely a xerox of perception and not the thing itself
having gone full circle, abstract objects are as unreal as material things, circumstances, situations, and events, and none of this is actually happening anyways.
this is actually lived experience, fr no cap.
but somehow the show goes on so hooray mystery.
I was never convinced.
by definition something abstract can't also be an object but I know what you mean; and Plato.
I spent $200,000 on a science degree and my Asian professors told me they were real
Anything but hyper-nominalism to me seems weird
The reality of concrete objects.
Galois theory
God
When I was younger, close to the end of school, there was a distinct "end of the year" smell that I could detect with no obvious source, and only reappearing at the end of almost every year, less so in high school and college. The only logical explanation is an emotion-based pheromone secreted by others. I have only rarely heard others speak of it.
Hmm, good point. I personally wouldn't call it a "smell" but the atmosphere in general was always palpably different as the arbitrary sacred days approached