fpbp. Elf marriage is one of the most Catholic aspects of Tolkien's legendarium. He writes that they get really horny after marriage and then never really have sex again after having children.
>He writes that they get really horny after marriage and then never really have sex again after having children
He could've use a bit more of escapist fancy with this one lol
The purpose of coitus, if you can forgive my coarse language, is to produce offspring. Once that purpose is fulfilled, there is no longer a reason to engage in this childish behavior. Sexual satiety further increases the risk of pleasure for it's own sake, for once I look upon my wife with desire, my masculine purpose is dirtied.
>The purpose of coitus, if you can forgive my coarse language, is to produce offspring
Having children is a sin. You are condemning an innocent soul to be born into the world and most-likely go to Hell.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>The purpose of coitus, if you can forgive my coarse language, is to produce offspring. Once that purpose is fulfilled, there is no longer a reason to engage
Mankind as yeast: the worldview
You're not clever just lame
1 week ago
Anonymous
you're not a genius you're actually just average intellectually
>The purpose of coitus, if you can forgive my coarse language, is to produce offspring. Once that purpose is fulfilled, there is no longer a reason to engage
Mankind as yeast: the worldview
Yes, once you have children sex is not the same. By the way sex and procreation are different acts. Sex can be use to harness sexual energy if you don't spell your seed, and procreation is to create another being for the never ending cycle of life.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's why I'm getting sterilized. Don't want no kids.
>sex is for children
Guess you really are a christisraelite
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so how does it feel to have israelite ancestors?
your kind never thinks through their insults and always back down like pagancucks usually do.
what will you do subhuman with cuck ancestry?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
My people are from europe 🙂 keep raging you larping homosexual.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lmao and those ancestors of your where christisraelite kek.
your blood is filled wither by that israelite blood that your curse now like a good cuck or blood of pagancucks who were too weak or too greedy for shekels and converted.
so I ask again what will you do subhuman whose ancestry is filled with deracinated blood?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Blood can't be deracinated, it's a permanent connection to truth. Fact is that your fake spirituality can't penetrate depths, it's a pure ego creation. So I have nothing to worry about.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it can be deracinated, you are living prove of it.
What point does your blood even have when you call your ancestors pedophiles and curse them as israelites?
is this self-hatred logical conclusion of modern pagancuck morality?
Answer is resounding YES!
Believe it or not that sort of thinking is actually anathematized in Catholic dogma
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Anonymous
That's fricking hilarious given the stereotypes on Catholics.
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Anonymous
Catholicism in Tolkien's time was explicitly anti-contraceptive tho. I don't know if the pull-out method was acceptable
I was referring to the longstanding tradition that sex must be both unitive AND procreative.
For some reason, a lot of tradgays forget the unitive part(it's the reason why infertile couples are still allowed to have sex despite being incapable of procreation). There's nothing wrong with desiring your wife/husband. That kind of desire is not lust.
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Anonymous
>That kind of desire is not lust.
Why not? What's the difference?
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Anonymous
It's about sharing the body as a gift, as a sacrament (outward sign of an inward reality) versus turning someone into an object. Marital relations can still involve objectification and thus sin, but they do not need to. John Paul II covers this in the Theology of the Body in Simple Language.
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Anonymous
Catholicism in Tolkien's time was explicitly anti-contraceptive tho. I don't know if the pull-out method was acceptable
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Catholicism in Tolkien's time was explicitly anti-contraceptive
Still is officially even if most Catholics don't follow it. They have a thing called NFP which is just tracking the time when the woman is least likely to conceive. Its birth control but totes not birth control!
Unironically based and true. As you and your spouse develop in spiritual maturity you should no longer rely on the desires of the flesh but be ascending towards spiritual pleasures: the arts, poetry, mathematics, Plato, Proclus, Aristotle, the writings of the great saints, and most of all God's word.
>He writes that they get really horny after marriage and then never really have sex again after having children.
so technically a marriage fetish? or it's like marriage rituals trigger ovulation and that makes them horny? or it's just an act so that the man rapes a baby into them?
PAPA TOLKIEN WE NEED ANSWERS
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>marriage fetish
Could you gooners kindly try not to turn completely ordinary and vanilla things into fetishes for one second? Ty
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>fetish = one can only get horny if X non-biological critaria is satisfied >in this case X = her marriage
Sorry buddy next time maybe try usig google
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Anonymous
nta but marriage cannot be a fetishism. Fetishism comes from the word "object", it designate worship of an object, and in sexual context it meant the use of an object or a non sexual organ or activity. It normally means a limitation of love to some object or part (foot, boobs,...) but marriage is not a part or a specific activity, it's simply a legal, religious an spiritual union.A promise in front of God (or the state but the state in kind of Satan nowadays).
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Anonymous
marriage like all rituals is a culture object and can be fetishized. and a marriage absolutely is a "specific activity" it has specific conditions to be met for it to be a marriage and has several end states that make it a limited time of activity as well.
>Anon, traditionally speaking, married Catholics would have sex and pump out kids for as long as they were physically able to.
Tolkien's elves do the same thing. They stop having kids when they run out of fea (a part of their soul) to give them. If they give away too much of their fea, they would lose the will to live (which is what happened to Feanor's mother)
1 week ago
Anonymous
>implying humans are soulless instead
Thanks professor
fpbp. Elf marriage is one of the most Catholic aspects of Tolkien's legendarium. He writes that they get really horny after marriage and then never really have sex again after having children.
>tradcath anons having irrational knee-jerk reactions, as if were their perception of Tolkien/LotR to change it would throw their sense of self into upheaval
Yeah I'm thinking OP is based
only thing is tradcats are right about the interpretation of Tolkien and any pseudo psychological analysis bears no actual relation to the quality and meaning of Tolkien's Legendarium
What awful writing. >achieved at the speed of other conscious and willful acts of delight or of making
The category of 'conscious and willful acts of delight or of making' is dumb when you are focusing on the speed or duration of an action, there is too much variation for this to mean anything. >its intensity alone provided its importance, not its time or length
So other organisms value sex because it's long? Just because it's more intense with elves doesn't mean it's not the intensity that makes it pleasurable for other creatures.
Yeah it's confusing and vague. >it's not important because of its time/length... but it is longer in elves?
"Conscious and willful act of making" makes it sound like elves are craftsmen of foreplay, and variations of tempo and position, and even dirty talk
J.R.R. Tolkien literally wrote elf sex stories but Christopher didn't feel comfortable about publishing them >I [Professor Kilby] was invited to dinner with some of the faculty at Christ Church and afterwards one member asked me if The Silmarillion had any sex, in the modern sense, in it. Next day I mentioned this to Tolkien and, to my surprise, he said he had written a couple of sex stories, though he did not volunteer to show them to me.
>Tolkien *cums prematurely one day* >Tolkien *writing in his journal next day* elves don't last long in bed it's perfectly normal and in fact better that way
>the war-mongering faction represented by Gandalf (whose attitude is described by Saruman as "crafting the Final Solution to the Mordorian problem") and the Elves.
I didn't know I could like Gandalf more
>Two Orc soldiers ("Orc" being a racial slur used by the West: the Orcs in Eskov's book are humans)
Unfortunately, for his anti-western line, Russians have shown themselves to be orcs again in Ukraine.
dwarfs are ok with elves though
everybody but goblins (orcs) love the elves despite them being literal nazis homosexuals
sauron did nothing wrong he is the savior of humankind
If it was an experiment, then we would have to have your informed consent beforehand because otherwise it would be breaking US law. So, rest assured that this is not an experiment being conducted by an entity within the US.
>intensity alone, not time or length >could not be endured a great length >too intense to be long >IT IS LONGER
Why was he a moron? Is it long or not long?
>It is longer and of more intense delight in Elves than in Men
That's pretty frickin scary. Humans have sex for hours every day. Unless they have some immediate survival need like caring for their children, humans will plan entire days around just having sex and turn it into both a sport and a recreation which includes cosmetic products, medicines, toys, devices, games, travelling....
So if it's longer and more intense for Elves, then what are they getting up to?
There's nothing weird or pervy about this passage. You're just projecting your perverted hentai elf obsession onto his text.
yes
fpbp. Elf marriage is one of the most Catholic aspects of Tolkien's legendarium. He writes that they get really horny after marriage and then never really have sex again after having children.
>He writes that they get really horny after marriage and then never really have sex again after having children
He could've use a bit more of escapist fancy with this one lol
The purpose of coitus, if you can forgive my coarse language, is to produce offspring. Once that purpose is fulfilled, there is no longer a reason to engage in this childish behavior. Sexual satiety further increases the risk of pleasure for it's own sake, for once I look upon my wife with desire, my masculine purpose is dirtied.
>The purpose of coitus, if you can forgive my coarse language, is to produce offspring
Having children is a sin. You are condemning an innocent soul to be born into the world and most-likely go to Hell.
You're not clever just lame
you're not a genius you're actually just average intellectually
You couldn't be further from the truth
What's the purpose of my brain having the ability to tell other parts of my body to do what I want?
>The purpose of coitus, if you can forgive my coarse language, is to produce offspring. Once that purpose is fulfilled, there is no longer a reason to engage
Mankind as yeast: the worldview
Sounds fun
Yes, once you have children sex is not the same. By the way sex and procreation are different acts. Sex can be use to harness sexual energy if you don't spell your seed, and procreation is to create another being for the never ending cycle of life.
That's why I'm getting sterilized. Don't want no kids.
>Christian calls having sex "childish"
MMMH, REALLY MAKES ONE PONDER DOESN'T IT?
Frick you
>sex is for children
Guess you really are a christisraelite
so how does it feel to have israelite ancestors?
your kind never thinks through their insults and always back down like pagancucks usually do.
what will you do subhuman with cuck ancestry?
My people are from europe 🙂 keep raging you larping homosexual.
lmao and those ancestors of your where christisraelite kek.
your blood is filled wither by that israelite blood that your curse now like a good cuck or blood of pagancucks who were too weak or too greedy for shekels and converted.
so I ask again what will you do subhuman whose ancestry is filled with deracinated blood?
Blood can't be deracinated, it's a permanent connection to truth. Fact is that your fake spirituality can't penetrate depths, it's a pure ego creation. So I have nothing to worry about.
it can be deracinated, you are living prove of it.
What point does your blood even have when you call your ancestors pedophiles and curse them as israelites?
is this self-hatred logical conclusion of modern pagancuck morality?
Answer is resounding YES!
You never had that "childish behaviour"
Believe it or not that sort of thinking is actually anathematized in Catholic dogma
That's fricking hilarious given the stereotypes on Catholics.
I was referring to the longstanding tradition that sex must be both unitive AND procreative.
For some reason, a lot of tradgays forget the unitive part(it's the reason why infertile couples are still allowed to have sex despite being incapable of procreation). There's nothing wrong with desiring your wife/husband. That kind of desire is not lust.
>That kind of desire is not lust.
Why not? What's the difference?
It's about sharing the body as a gift, as a sacrament (outward sign of an inward reality) versus turning someone into an object. Marital relations can still involve objectification and thus sin, but they do not need to. John Paul II covers this in the Theology of the Body in Simple Language.
Catholicism in Tolkien's time was explicitly anti-contraceptive tho. I don't know if the pull-out method was acceptable
>Catholicism in Tolkien's time was explicitly anti-contraceptive
Still is officially even if most Catholics don't follow it. They have a thing called NFP which is just tracking the time when the woman is least likely to conceive. Its birth control but totes not birth control!
Unironically based and true. As you and your spouse develop in spiritual maturity you should no longer rely on the desires of the flesh but be ascending towards spiritual pleasures: the arts, poetry, mathematics, Plato, Proclus, Aristotle, the writings of the great saints, and most of all God's word.
embarrassing
>He writes that they get really horny after marriage and then never really have sex again after having children.
so technically a marriage fetish? or it's like marriage rituals trigger ovulation and that makes them horny? or it's just an act so that the man rapes a baby into them?
PAPA TOLKIEN WE NEED ANSWERS
pic unrelated
>marriage fetish
Could you gooners kindly try not to turn completely ordinary and vanilla things into fetishes for one second? Ty
>fetish = one can only get horny if X non-biological critaria is satisfied
>in this case X = her marriage
Sorry buddy next time maybe try usig google
nta but marriage cannot be a fetishism. Fetishism comes from the word "object", it designate worship of an object, and in sexual context it meant the use of an object or a non sexual organ or activity. It normally means a limitation of love to some object or part (foot, boobs,...) but marriage is not a part or a specific activity, it's simply a legal, religious an spiritual union.A promise in front of God (or the state but the state in kind of Satan nowadays).
marriage like all rituals is a culture object and can be fetishized. and a marriage absolutely is a "specific activity" it has specific conditions to be met for it to be a marriage and has several end states that make it a limited time of activity as well.
Anon, traditionally speaking, married Catholics would have sex and pump out kids for as long as they were physically able to.
>Anon, traditionally speaking, married Catholics would have sex and pump out kids for as long as they were physically able to.
Tolkien's elves do the same thing. They stop having kids when they run out of fea (a part of their soul) to give them. If they give away too much of their fea, they would lose the will to live (which is what happened to Feanor's mother)
>implying humans are soulless instead
Thanks professor
>tradcath anons having irrational knee-jerk reactions, as if were their perception of Tolkien/LotR to change it would throw their sense of self into upheaval
Yeah I'm thinking OP is based
only thing is tradcats are right about the interpretation of Tolkien and any pseudo psychological analysis bears no actual relation to the quality and meaning of Tolkien's Legendarium
What awful writing.
>achieved at the speed of other conscious and willful acts of delight or of making
The category of 'conscious and willful acts of delight or of making' is dumb when you are focusing on the speed or duration of an action, there is too much variation for this to mean anything.
>its intensity alone provided its importance, not its time or length
So other organisms value sex because it's long? Just because it's more intense with elves doesn't mean it's not the intensity that makes it pleasurable for other creatures.
moron
>What awful writing.
to be fair, it's notes that he made for himself which he probably didn't intend to be published.
BTFO
Yeah it's confusing and vague.
>it's not important because of its time/length... but it is longer in elves?
"Conscious and willful act of making" makes it sound like elves are craftsmen of foreplay, and variations of tempo and position, and even dirty talk
J.R.R. Tolkien literally wrote elf sex stories but Christopher didn't feel comfortable about publishing them
>I [Professor Kilby] was invited to dinner with some of the faculty at Christ Church and afterwards one member asked me if The Silmarillion had any sex, in the modern sense, in it. Next day I mentioned this to Tolkien and, to my surprise, he said he had written a couple of sex stories, though he did not volunteer to show them to me.
Is this real? Please tell me this is real.
Tolkien and The Silmarillion by Clyde S. Kilby
I kek'd, imagine erotica set on Middle Earth
Tolkein meant the exact same thing as swami lakshimanjoo
Some first-rate cope for shooting early and not making Edith cum
Tolkien is a Man, not Elf.
>Tolkien *cums prematurely one day*
>Tolkien *writing in his journal next day* elves don't last long in bed it's perfectly normal and in fact better that way
Stop projecting your insecurities onto others.
Stop replying to my posts. It's time you stopped.
The elven females expect human males to perform cuningulous longer than the tongue can endure.
He's saying it doesn't take as long to make a baby as it does a sword or epic poem, but it's still as magical as the elves' other creations.
Who's the long ears and how do I find her
Marcille from Dungeon Meshi
i hate elves
throughout the entire book i want to rape and kill each elf mentioned
sauron did nothing wrong
frick elves
you'd like this book
>kirill yeskov
do they really
They unironically call themselves orcs
Russia is like one of the closest places to Mordor IRL
They're basically the same place.
>the war-mongering faction represented by Gandalf (whose attitude is described by Saruman as "crafting the Final Solution to the Mordorian problem") and the Elves.
I didn't know I could like Gandalf more
>Two Orc soldiers ("Orc" being a racial slur used by the West: the Orcs in Eskov's book are humans)
Unfortunately, for his anti-western line, Russians have shown themselves to be orcs again in Ukraine.
Dwarf anon cant get over being heightmogged more at 11
dwarfs are ok with elves though
everybody but goblins (orcs) love the elves despite them being literal nazis homosexuals
sauron did nothing wrong he is the savior of humankind
Is this some experiment to see if IQfy is as stupid as IQfy? Try posting it on /tg/ if you want real autism.
If it was an experiment, then we would have to have your informed consent beforehand because otherwise it would be breaking US law. So, rest assured that this is not an experiment being conducted by an entity within the US.
>intensity alone, not time or length
>could not be endured a great length
>too intense to be long
>IT IS LONGER
Why was he a moron? Is it long or not long?
longer from human perspective
My theory is that Tolkien was a 1 pump chump, a woman he fricked consoled him about it, and it made it's way into his work.
your mind has been rotten by porn go outside
I can't watch Dungeon Meshi because of the strobe effects. I thought Japan stopped doing that shit after the Pokemon fiasco.
Get PWNED by Polygon epilepsy-gay.
The israelite FEARS the strobelight
If you had sex with a Tolkien Elf you would probably die if you prolonged it further than just one orgasm.
DEATH BY SEX FETISH ARTISTS WHERE THE FRICK ARE YOU AT YOU FRICKING WESTABOOS!?
Other way around it seems
Fantasy writers always inserting their fetish into the worldbuilding
>read the Silmarillion
>the god of chads marry the goddess of tomboys
What did Tolkien mean by this ?
>It is longer and of more intense delight in Elves than in Men
That's pretty frickin scary. Humans have sex for hours every day. Unless they have some immediate survival need like caring for their children, humans will plan entire days around just having sex and turn it into both a sport and a recreation which includes cosmetic products, medicines, toys, devices, games, travelling....
So if it's longer and more intense for Elves, then what are they getting up to?
I aim for around five minutes of sex on a fricking good day.
Hours of fricking is torturous. A good 15-20 min session (including foreplay) is ideal.
Which fantasy series is the best for me if I want to read about a human male warrior smashing a lot of elf pussy?
Tolkien is what I hate about anglos.