BR Polyglot here, I speak 7 languages, currently adding العربية
Wrong. Brazil before the republican era had a clear, defined relatively homogeneous luso-afro-native culture fundamented on Catholicism, the portuguese language and the Monarchy.
Other influences where added, like the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich & beeing the favourite destination for Japanese Emmigrants.
>Other influences where added, like the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich & beeing the favourite destination for Japanese Emmigrants
Which are bad things because it fricked up the national ethnic-cultural harmony. What happened in Brazil with the government importing millions of italians, poles, germans, spaniards, lebanese, koreans, japs and shit, is the exact same thing european governments are doing to their nations now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What happened in Brazil with the government importing millions of italians, poles, germans, spaniards, lebanese, koreans, japs and shit, is the exact same thing european governments are doing to their nations now.
I have no idea what demographics were like in early Brazil, but surely there were plenty of blacks, Indians, and those of European descent in the country at the time. Doesn't seem particularly ethnically harmonious.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Brazil before the republican era, like I said in my post earlier had a clear, defined relatively homogeneous luso-afro-native culture fundamented on Catholicism, the portuguese language and the Monarchy.
Didn't matter if you were in Amazonas, Pernambuco, São Paulo or Rio Grande do Sul, although the cultural traditions and the accents were slightly different among them, they all spawned from the same triracial portuguese/native american/ african stem, depending on the region one of those elements was usually stronger/standed out more (like ameridians in the north, africans in bahia and iberians in the center-south states) but all the other elements were also present to some degree and in different levels of ''cultural syncretism''.
Our architecture was also pretty homogeneous from north to south, which also helped when we were in the process of shaping a solid identity, tho now it was all destroyed by the R*public and I can't see us solving the absolute hellish mess it turned the country into.
2 years ago
Anonymous
kys Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm mostly venetian, only 1/8 of my blood is colonial brazilian, which is pretty sad tbh you moronic cum guzzling homo. I'm a result of our moronic elites trying to ethnically frick up the country. Also, post nose, israelite.
So historians must ignore methodology and write a narrative that comforts you?
Even if you look purely through those lens, what I said still doesn't stop being true, since you mentioned only one dimension of our colonial/imperial era (the economic one). Also you're spouting only the traditional commie college economic point of view, I recommend reading more recent writers on the subject like Jorge Caldeira, who gives a different point of view when compared to the old, academically crystallized moronic commie Caio Prado Junior/Celso Furtado type of historical economic analysis.
I'm not talking about the brazilian state, which is artificial bullshit and I can't give enough of a frick about. I'm talking about our organic, spontaneously ''fermented by time'' culture that was created by the mix of those three different worlds that spawned a kind of ''unity in diversity'' as thinkers like Gilberto Freyre and Sergio Buarque de Holanda used to say. If the XX century frickery hadnt happened, Brazil could splinter into a thousand microstates (would be a good thing tbh) we would still have a common shared language, religion, traditions and ancestry, a general feel of ''brasilidade'', same way the greeks, germans and italians had when they were decentralized civilizations. I dont know why you fricktards always confuse state with nation. Also Vargas is a gayúcho manlet homosexual who is slurping semen in the deepest chambers of hell as we speak. The only thing worse than a commie is a varguista (not accusing you of being one, just saying).
Patrianovistas are based, though I disagree with many things. Liberal parlamentarist monarchists are massive homos. Almost as bad as varguistas.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You absolutely pathetic underage. Probably autistic too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not an argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>a general feel of ''brasilidade'', same way the greeks, germans and italians had when they were decentralized civilizations
Never existed. Here's your brasilidade. How resilient it is!
2 years ago
Anonymous
I said that we lost our identity after the republic and you post an image actually supporting my claims. What an absolute moron.
Nothing more sad than a Brazilian who thinks he's spiritually Portuguese tbh
I dont feel spiritually portuguese homosexual. And Im not saying our old identity was basically just an extension of Portugal. The Portuguese element was the most important one, yeah, but we are/were our own specific thing. Nowadays, after our country went to hell the only thing I probably kinda identify with is as a paulista. And specifically the countryside. Paulistanos should get the bullet and SP city should be nuked from orbit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
catholicism has no power to direct the country. is our time to assume the wheel
Nothing more sad than a Brazilian who thinks he's spiritually Portuguese tbh
>poortugal >white
kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
Once this country goes full mad max you pr*ttie Black folk will get the rope. You're avtually worse than mudslimes. St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre 2: Sopa de Macaco Uma Delícia Edition when???
2 years ago
Anonymous
None of that is true. The monarchy was often plagued with separatist movements and D Pedro II was famous for being very anti autocratic, which resulted in a very decentralized state. The church was also against him for his apathy. A centralized Brazilian identity didn't happen until Vargas' New State.
Portuguese, Spanish and English are standard for upper middle class Brazilian millenials. The more pretentious ones pick an additional language. I've studied a bit of Italian myself, it's a lot simpler than Portuguese, Spanish or French. More latinamericans should study it.
Based italian studying fellow hue bro. Also studying italian, chose it because I want to be able to read my great grandma's diary that's all written in italian and because It's a beautiful language. Eventually would love to learn german and latin too, if God allows.
>Because I'm interested in what they study and "know" about us
There's one prominent Brazil institute at the Brown University. That's all. Yes, that's all. Nothing of interest in Europe either. Leslie Bethell attempted a Center of Brazilian Studies in Oxford, but it was shut down soon after he left and absorbed into the Latin American center.
The academia in the US or Europe doesn't give a shit about Brazil. Does this satisfy you? They only know about the generic concept of "Latin America", which in American vocabulary means Hispano-America. Brazil doesn't exist at all.
Now you know.
2 years ago
Anonymous
kind of weird then taking in consideration how our lefty historians say they meddle so much here
2 years ago
Anonymous
CIA probably doesn't know how many people there are in Brazil
Reagan visited the country and thought he was in Bolivia
2 years ago
Anonymous
>CIA probably doesn't know how many people there are in Brazil
there was lot of revolts but not sure they can be counted as civil wars since they were restricted to specific regions
i think the closest to the country splitting in half like the US did was the 1930 revolution
The whole concept of a multiracial nation is a contradiction in terms anyway, since a nation means a group with a common descent. Any intelligent white man in that country who claims he is exactly the same as the lowest Black is just coping.
Wrong. Brazil before the republican era had a clear, defined relatively homogeneous luso-afro-native culture fundamented on Catholicism, the portuguese language and the Monarchy.
> Brazil before the republican era had a clear, defined relatively homogeneous luso-afro-native culture fundamented on Catholicism
Stop lying. It was a quasi-feudal slave plantation shithole. 85% were illiterate and the economy was smaller than Argentina's by the 1880.
BR Polyglot here, I speak 7 languages, currently adding العربية
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Other influences where added, like the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich & beeing the favourite destination for Japanese Emmigrants.
>Other influences where added, like the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich & beeing the favourite destination for Japanese Emmigrants.
These influences are minimal since the immigrants all were assimilated. The culture is still lusitanic.
Which are bad things because it fricked up the national ethnic-cultural harmony. What happened in Brazil with the government importing millions of italians, poles, germans, spaniards, lebanese, koreans, japs and shit, is the exact same thing european governments are doing to their nations now.
These people were assimilated and mixed with the locals.
For England it's more like >The Anarchy, Two Barons' Wars, Three Wars of the Roses, Two English Civil Wars
Unless you accept that Britain is a nation, then the other Wars of the Three Kingdoms and Jacobite Rebellions are what count.
I think Brazil's history is a pretty cool guy. Eh turns everyone into mystery meat while dancing samba and shitting up online games and doesn't afraid of anything.
What languages can you read?
Portuguese, Spanish and English.
If you are Brazilian why the frick would you ask an American imageboard for books on your national history
Stop being an attention prostitute
you do not know how brazilians work
we called mutt syndrome (síndrome de vira-lata)
Baseado
BR Polyglot here, I speak 7 languages, currently adding العربية
Other influences where added, like the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich & beeing the favourite destination for Japanese Emmigrants.
>Other influences where added, like the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich & beeing the favourite destination for Japanese Emmigrants
Which are bad things because it fricked up the national ethnic-cultural harmony. What happened in Brazil with the government importing millions of italians, poles, germans, spaniards, lebanese, koreans, japs and shit, is the exact same thing european governments are doing to their nations now.
>What happened in Brazil with the government importing millions of italians, poles, germans, spaniards, lebanese, koreans, japs and shit, is the exact same thing european governments are doing to their nations now.
I have no idea what demographics were like in early Brazil, but surely there were plenty of blacks, Indians, and those of European descent in the country at the time. Doesn't seem particularly ethnically harmonious.
Brazil before the republican era, like I said in my post earlier had a clear, defined relatively homogeneous luso-afro-native culture fundamented on Catholicism, the portuguese language and the Monarchy.
Didn't matter if you were in Amazonas, Pernambuco, São Paulo or Rio Grande do Sul, although the cultural traditions and the accents were slightly different among them, they all spawned from the same triracial portuguese/native american/ african stem, depending on the region one of those elements was usually stronger/standed out more (like ameridians in the north, africans in bahia and iberians in the center-south states) but all the other elements were also present to some degree and in different levels of ''cultural syncretism''.
Our architecture was also pretty homogeneous from north to south, which also helped when we were in the process of shaping a solid identity, tho now it was all destroyed by the R*public and I can't see us solving the absolute hellish mess it turned the country into.
kys Black person
I'm mostly venetian, only 1/8 of my blood is colonial brazilian, which is pretty sad tbh you moronic cum guzzling homo. I'm a result of our moronic elites trying to ethnically frick up the country. Also, post nose, israelite.
Even if you look purely through those lens, what I said still doesn't stop being true, since you mentioned only one dimension of our colonial/imperial era (the economic one). Also you're spouting only the traditional commie college economic point of view, I recommend reading more recent writers on the subject like Jorge Caldeira, who gives a different point of view when compared to the old, academically crystallized moronic commie Caio Prado Junior/Celso Furtado type of historical economic analysis.
It still undeniably heavily lingers on in the mentality our political classes tho.
I'm not talking about the brazilian state, which is artificial bullshit and I can't give enough of a frick about. I'm talking about our organic, spontaneously ''fermented by time'' culture that was created by the mix of those three different worlds that spawned a kind of ''unity in diversity'' as thinkers like Gilberto Freyre and Sergio Buarque de Holanda used to say. If the XX century frickery hadnt happened, Brazil could splinter into a thousand microstates (would be a good thing tbh) we would still have a common shared language, religion, traditions and ancestry, a general feel of ''brasilidade'', same way the greeks, germans and italians had when they were decentralized civilizations. I dont know why you fricktards always confuse state with nation. Also Vargas is a gayúcho manlet homosexual who is slurping semen in the deepest chambers of hell as we speak. The only thing worse than a commie is a varguista (not accusing you of being one, just saying).
Patrianovistas are based, though I disagree with many things. Liberal parlamentarist monarchists are massive homos. Almost as bad as varguistas.
You absolutely pathetic underage. Probably autistic too.
Not an argument.
>a general feel of ''brasilidade'', same way the greeks, germans and italians had when they were decentralized civilizations
Never existed. Here's your brasilidade. How resilient it is!
I said that we lost our identity after the republic and you post an image actually supporting my claims. What an absolute moron.
I dont feel spiritually portuguese homosexual. And Im not saying our old identity was basically just an extension of Portugal. The Portuguese element was the most important one, yeah, but we are/were our own specific thing. Nowadays, after our country went to hell the only thing I probably kinda identify with is as a paulista. And specifically the countryside. Paulistanos should get the bullet and SP city should be nuked from orbit.
catholicism has no power to direct the country. is our time to assume the wheel
>poortugal
>white
kek
Once this country goes full mad max you pr*ttie Black folk will get the rope. You're avtually worse than mudslimes. St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre 2: Sopa de Macaco Uma Delícia Edition when???
None of that is true. The monarchy was often plagued with separatist movements and D Pedro II was famous for being very anti autocratic, which resulted in a very decentralized state. The church was also against him for his apathy. A centralized Brazilian identity didn't happen until Vargas' New State.
Portuguese, Spanish and English are standard for upper middle class Brazilian millenials. The more pretentious ones pick an additional language. I've studied a bit of Italian myself, it's a lot simpler than Portuguese, Spanish or French. More latinamericans should study it.
Based italian studying fellow hue bro. Also studying italian, chose it because I want to be able to read my great grandma's diary that's all written in italian and because It's a beautiful language. Eventually would love to learn german and latin too, if God allows.
>studying Italiano
>not Lingua Latina
Because I'm interested in what they study and "know" about us
>Because I'm interested in what they study and "know" about us
There's one prominent Brazil institute at the Brown University. That's all. Yes, that's all. Nothing of interest in Europe either. Leslie Bethell attempted a Center of Brazilian Studies in Oxford, but it was shut down soon after he left and absorbed into the Latin American center.
The academia in the US or Europe doesn't give a shit about Brazil. Does this satisfy you? They only know about the generic concept of "Latin America", which in American vocabulary means Hispano-America. Brazil doesn't exist at all.
Now you know.
kind of weird then taking in consideration how our lefty historians say they meddle so much here
CIA probably doesn't know how many people there are in Brazil
Reagan visited the country and thought he was in Bolivia
>CIA probably doesn't know how many people there are in Brazil
WRONG
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/brazil/
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=busting%20your%20balls&utm_source=search-action
I actually studied Latin America in college. Shit's fun.
Granted, most of the focus was on Cold War era proxy warfare and drug cartels.
As a Romaboo i really like this image. Please delete it immediately thank you. Salve.
ubi est Traianus?
The true Romans.
>ywn see your country jump between monarchy, democracy and republic in a single lifetime
JUST
The American civil war racked up a higher body count than every British Civil War combined.
Yeah because it had fricking guns
not really that hard when Englands population was just sir peepee le poopoo and his local peasant harem
The moron who made that pic forgot to write about our shitload of civil wars too. Fricking moronic Black person.
there was lot of revolts but not sure they can be counted as civil wars since they were restricted to specific regions
i think the closest to the country splitting in half like the US did was the 1930 revolution
US Civil War was also a revolt restricted to a specific region if you think about it.
reddit meme
>40 presidents
Was this meme made in the 1980's?
>no mention of our assassinated presidents and impeachments
amrican bros...
Brazil is unironically the most fake country in the world. Maybe even more than Belgium-tier ''countries''
The whole concept of a multiracial nation is a contradiction in terms anyway, since a nation means a group with a common descent. Any intelligent white man in that country who claims he is exactly the same as the lowest Black is just coping.
Oh lawdy a stohm abrewin
Wrong. Brazil before the republican era had a clear, defined relatively homogeneous luso-afro-native culture fundamented on Catholicism, the portuguese language and the Monarchy.
> Brazil before the republican era had a clear, defined relatively homogeneous luso-afro-native culture fundamented on Catholicism
Stop lying. It was a quasi-feudal slave plantation shithole. 85% were illiterate and the economy was smaller than Argentina's by the 1880.
As always, the marxist homosexual only see the world through materialist/economicist lens. Drink bleach, commie Black person.
So historians must ignore methodology and write a narrative that comforts you?
true historians know that marxism is a pseudoscience
The positivist school of history died out in the 1930s. That's why no one takes monarchists seriously.
Monarchism died becuase it was taken over by schizos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrianovism
They long for a Brazil that never existed.
>OMG! The only thing that matters is money! Duuuurrr huuuurr
gay
The Army is deeply positivistic.
Nothing more sad than a Brazilian who thinks he's spiritually Portuguese tbh
You don't even know brazilian and portuguese history.
I guess Rome was also a fake nation, eh?
>Other influences where added, like the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich & beeing the favourite destination for Japanese Emmigrants.
These influences are minimal since the immigrants all were assimilated. The culture is still lusitanic.
These people were assimilated and mixed with the locals.
>I guess Rome was also a fake nation, eh?
It became one once the true, original Romans were replaced, yes.
For England it's more like
>The Anarchy, Two Barons' Wars, Three Wars of the Roses, Two English Civil Wars
Unless you accept that Britain is a nation, then the other Wars of the Three Kingdoms and Jacobite Rebellions are what count.
This should include France.
Huezil
I think Brazil's history is a pretty cool guy. Eh turns everyone into mystery meat while dancing samba and shitting up online games and doesn't afraid of anything.
>impechaments
learn to spell ffs.
We had 3 civil wars?
Define "we"
>OP's image has spongebob with the Union jack over him and a large textbox saying "3 big civil wars"
>Define "we"
???