What do you think is the actual meaning of this metaphor?
>those who live in glass houses should not throw stones
The common interpretation is you shouldn't criticize others for faults you have yourself. I used to think that was the meaning. But I've been thinking about it and I think maybe it's actually about the psychology of forgiving. The metaphor is that you feel affected by someone's negative attitude toward you, or you perceive them to have a negative attitude toward you, because of a flaw in yourself. As Bashar says:
>You don't take it to heart if you know it has nothing to do with you
I.e. the evil that your mind is perceiving in the other is in fact a reflection of an evil in yourself.
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>you shouldn't criticize others for faults you have yourself
why not. if anything that makes me more justified since i'd know better than anyone else.
I said that's the common interpretation, not mine.
Because you'll look mighty stupid if afterwards, you engage in said behavior yourself
to frick around is human; to find out is divine
>stone tossers are transparent, not difficult to read
>the house shattering makes the thrower go from transparent to exposed
so, anyone living in a glass house would be dumb to throw the first stone. OR don't live in a glass house at all by having stronger walls that can withstand any rock throwers, even if that's the one inside.
Im saying "throwing a stone" is not about criticizing, it's about perception and about feeling hurt by others. You don't have to have anyone to talk to for this metaphor to be relevant. Sitting alone meditating it's relevant. It's similar to
>let he who is without sin throw the first stone
and
>why do you see the speck in your brother's eye but not the log in your own eye
Also the story of Noah, and Jesus on the cross, and the penitent thief, and the entire Gospel.
>Noah
*Jonah
Black person*
Your interpretation doesn't make sense, because the vulnerability of a glass house is that if someone throws a stone back, the glass will shatter. There is a reason it's specifically a glass house because as this anon notes, glass is transparent, and brittle. If it was a house of mirrors, then maybe your metaphor would work, because a mirror is not transparent and thus the occupant couldn't be seen by the outside world (and their hypocrisy would not be subject to reprisals)
Maybe but if anything you're better off shitting during the day time because the absorption of the glass means that it will be slightly darker inside than outside. Whereas at night if you use a candle to find the toilet it will be lighter inside the house than outside.
Let's say someone bullies you for being fat. You go home and cry to your mom.
>John is such an butthole for bullying me for being fat
Then you are accusing John of evil. That accusation is the stone. But if you were a kind person you wouldn't be crying about him calling you fat. You crying just shows your own evil.
Hence why throwing the stone reveals a flaw or weakness in yourself, represented by the breaking of the glass/the hole in the glass/the brittleness of the glass. Just as "why do you see the speck in your brother's eye but not the log in your own eye". The implication is that you only see the speck because you have a log in your eye. It's unclear whether it means the speck is there regardless of the log but you wouldn't be paying attention to it without the log, or whether the log is causing a delusion of a speck that isn't there. The glass house analogy is different because it doesn't say anything about the person the stone is being thrown at at all, and that might be significant, because for example when you see people discussing Christianity and forgiving your enemy there is always a focus on politics, when in fact the scripture might be dealing with pure psychology.
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>You don't take it to heart if you know it has nothing to do with you. The only reason you would feel affected by it is if you agree that it does.
Just don't be chuckin stuff about.
>Throwing stones (whatever meaning that has) from within a glass house means you'll weaken it enough that it'll eventually collapse.
I personally see 'throwing stones' as being selfish, so when you *do* be selfish, you're corrupting your own ability to connect with other people.
If you live in a glass house you have to answer the door.
OP, I’m confused. Faults/criticize is the correct meaning, are you just trying to offer your own interpretation? Because the history of this expression is readily available.
People who live in glass houses should wait until nightfall to use the restroom.
well of course id like to stay and chew the fat
>I.e. the evil that your mind is perceiving in the other is in fact a reflection of an evil in yourself.
I think fighting with your own shadow would be a better analogy than trying to shoehorn an already elegant metaphor into your definition
I get that it's "just a phrase" but nevertheless it makes no sense why anyone would live in a glass house or throw a stone in their house
It is weird. Glass greenhouses exist now. I don't think they did in 1385 when this saying was supposedly coined.
WHAT is the DEAL with people having literal ELEPHANTS in their ROOMS?! They're far too large for that space!
The elephant in the room is that there is no elephant in the room.
haha, yup there sure is no elephant in here, hehe, because it would be too big isn't that right? No elephants here. We have plenty of space here that's not taken up by a giant elephant hehehe
There are legitimate reasons to place an elephant in a room
The basic point is very practical. It's not smart to attack like that from a position of weakness.
The wider point I think relates more to consistently applying principles instead of using selective judgement like by exempting you from it for no reason. If rocks start being thrown around at all it usually doesn't affect you any less than the others you may be proposing to stone.
If you're throwing stones others can easily pick them up and throw them back at you. That's the implication
Idioms are vulgar and stupid
>those who live in glass houses should not throw stones
well but should they?
The idea is that for individual to actually achieve anything he has to be protected from "real world" since early childhood. A person brought up in such way should regard the world outside the greenhouse with respect and fear, he is required to have an appreciation for his priviliged (greenhouse) state, plus he rather has to take every action with care regarding unforeseen dire consequences. The moment he starts throwing rocks re risks to wreck the invisible protecting shield, so he would have to face unforgiving elements and overwhelming fighting for existence which would most likely result in demise of his.
thats fair, but flawed as it relies on a singular idea each time : some one else's flaws you have as your own. but your glass house doesnt have to be built from the same errors to be a glass house - its just has to be a glass house easily subject to the injury you are giving to another.
also - your i.e. is - outside of the glasshouse question - entirely on point - mean small minded uncreative people are always accusing other people of their own faults and transgressions. its how they know what they know - they are always doing it all the time so you must be too, which just isnt true.
when they tell you who they are, listen.
The faults you see in others are just the faults you see in yourself, you're not throwing stones at anyone, you're throwing them at your glass house.
That's my interpretation anyways. 😀