And i mean strong in a literary way. No woke or forced stuff, just what do you think when you read a story where the main character is a strong buffed woman who packs a punch or has mastery of a weapon and can trample a man (not necessarily easily)?
Do you keep reading or you will feel "intidimated" or "that's doesn't look realistic at all?" always rings in your mind or you immediateyl think "man thats just woke stuff".
Mind that i don't speak about a specific genre, you can have good examples like a skilled takewondo instructor taking down some goons in a police novel or the usual unga bunga barbarian slaughtering lizardman in a fantasy.
And i am not interested in magic stuff, just pure strength, fist, kicks or big iron (or wood) thinghy smashing stuff.
Does a female reader appreciate to see her genre in a character or in a situation which is rare if not existent in the ordinary life or they don't like big bonebreakers by principle because is too much out of role?
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I like it as long as it's fetishized and the girl is HOT (no mannish butch dykes).
I'm a sadomasochist and would love to get beaten to a pulp by a hot girl (again, no mannish butch dykes please).
I love em
mannish butch dykes are great as long as they fall in love with a cute boy who makes them feel like a pretty princess
>mannish butch dykes are great as long as they fall in love with a cute boy who makes them feel like a pretty princess
Yeah i really like those stories. I am writing something similar like now but i am undecided between cute boy or going cute girl. There is material to work with both sides and i can't see what couple, in general, would be more appreciated.
I love them.
Same
She looked AWFUL in the anime, the CGI didn't do her physique justice.
>strong
As in ridiculously strong? This is the kind of thing that looks somewhat silly even when it is with men. Unless you are going for a somewhat humorous approach, just make her good with a gun, makes way more sense.
But as in one that knows how to fight? I think that can work, I had my ass kicked by a 90 pounds girl who was really good with her shit.
>ridiculously strong
No, nothing over the top. Just strong, not throwing cars or stuff. But in an exchange with a man you could give a 80% that she'll whoop his ass by principle reading descriptions of how much big she is, muscles and stuff.
>just make her good with a gun
Gun is an equalizer, nobody is surprised by a woman who can shoot as a man.
i didn't want to go that way because that was not the point i wanted to do.
The only cases of me having such a reaction are when the piece tries to be serious for a moment and then pulls some anime move like a hypersamurai lady just fighting indestructible guy. But goddamn man, do you really think that any guy feels inttimidated by such a huge chunk of waifubait like Noi? I don't mind buff women, they can be nice characters. I can like them if they're good and written well. I mean a girl being incredibly strong physically doesn't make me feel anything without context.
>do you really think that any guy feels inttimidated by such a huge chunk of waifubait like Noi?
Noi was the only strong girl i tought of when thinking of what picture to post, it was not completely relevant, seriously.
Well, it's a shame Brienne is ugly like winter. I didn't have any issue with her and got a bit excited about her being a descendant of Dunc.
agreed the actress shouldnt have been uglified for the show
Any character that is super powered (smarts, strength, money, emotional qualities, pyrokinetics, whatever) I assume it's fantasy and only excuse it were it's the barest legal veil of political satire or stoner movie dumb
>super powered
Again is not super power. I don't know who you are but if you are an average shmuck like me a girl like gina carano would break everything in your body easily. I just point a super strong in a female optic, not a girl who can lift a wheel with her hands but a girl who can beat the shit out of a man without too much difficulty.
Then, if it's fantasy of course you can lift more the bar of strength.
>girl like gina carano
That is superpowered. If the girl is a local area pro-am legend, it's superpowered, let alone pro. It's the same if a male character is a navy seal, a billionaire, a tech genius.
An hero is an eccenlency, brienne of got is the gina carano of westeros. Of course you don't expect your main character to be an housewife that find a sword someday. Unless you start when they are young which is ok but in the end you'll have to reach the peak or if anything the most higher circles.
Even if it's a realistic tale you don't expect a girl to be the average nobody, just as like your detective it's not the average cop signing tickets around the town.
This. It has to make sense in context. Even if you stage it at a female bodybuilding contest, I don't expect the suspects to be stronger than a woman who does Olympic lifting, or to not have an intimate knowledge of steroids. I mean, even if it's a male bodybuilding contest, if the killer needs a full range of motion in their arms, I'm ruling everyone in the top ten out as suspects.
Fantasy worlds still need the same logic. If everyone in the world has fricking superpowers and the one girl in the story who has shitty powers also has the power of love, she is going to Mary Sue her way to solving the planet and getting the boy she wanted from the three kings who threw themselves at her plain ass by the end of the series. It's always an overpowered character that literally does nothing except exist with no need for backstory or development.
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Strong women is a feminist euphemism for manly women, because the purpose of feminism is to androgynize the sexes. Women's strength overlaps with men in areas of common humanity, but shows through with the greatest brilliance in areas exclusive to their own sex; areas which are seen by feminism as systematic oppression, degrading, unfair, and worst of all boring.
Yeah, a lot of guys actually do like stories with strong girls.
The key is making them fun and sexy and NOT a feminist statement and don't make her a misandrist b***h who wants to castrate all males.
Guys might tolerate a lot of bullshit from a girl if she's hot but there's limits.
Sexy is a tough take on books cause you cant rely of the stuff that makes you horny irl (eyes, nose, hands). And, of course, sexy is a subjective judgement.
I think one of the most difficult thing to do while writing is to make the reader understand what the hell i am trying to create. Look the op pic, moi can be described as long as you want but someone will see moi as in pic, other a bullroid with a manface.
I am not that old but back in the days Xena was appreciated by male and females right? And i don't think it was just cause she was an hottie. That qualifies as a strong woman who didn't hate men. Yes of course it was fantasy.
It’s a fetish