What the frick is Gnosticism? I want to start from somewhere but i don't know where to start. Please recommend some good entry books.
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What the fuck is Gnosticism? I want to start from somewhere but i don't know where to start.
The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P Hall
You don't need to read anything to become Gnostic, you only need to perform unbiased analysis of what's going on around you and things humanity knows about world and life. There can be no other conclusions made than whoever designed all that shit being either completely indifferent to sentient life, or outright malicious towards it. Pray to all your imaginary anthropomorphic friends that it's former and not latter.
Abrahamism is all about various bullshit rationalizations about how it's achskully your friend too, because its whole "phylosophy" is rationalization of malignant narcissistic abuse that abrahamic deity subjects its followers to as a good and necessary thing. Gnosticism isn't like that, it needs no mental gymnastics to work, it's default position of someone not subjected to previous indoctrination and not too invested into wistful thinking.
>outright malicious
Considering we aren't in continuous torment ala 'I have no mouth and I must scream', this can't be true.
>Indifferent
That there has been countless accounts of divine interventions throughout history rules this out also.
>That there has been countless accounts of divine interventions throughout history rules this out also.
Are you fricking serious
Are you bind to history? Thousands upon thousands of accounts of miracles across the entire world, in every country, in every era. People, often lots of people, claiming to have witnessed events which should not be possible. Even just incredibly improbable mundane events like freak, perfectly timed weather events altering the course of a history defining war.
God is not indifferent.
Can one examine miracles under the historical method?
How would you examine them outside of the accounts of those who witnessed them? They are, by definition, one time exceptions to the way the world works. They can't, by their nature, be examined by any methods that define truth by repeatability.
So miracles aren't really historical, are they. Claims about miracles are.
I'm sure it'd be very convenient if every documented miracle was lies or falsehoods.
How about this then? An omnipotent deity would experience every moment of every consciousness in more perfect detail than the entity the consciousness belongs to.
Hitler survived a bomb blast and said it was divine intervention.
And then he lost anyway. people will always claim a favorable outcome is the work of the divine and proof providence is on their side. For some they are never disproven. For others, luck runs out.
How do you know it wasn't? Perhaps he was meant to kill himself in a bunker surrounded by a hell of his own making, knowing everything he tried to accomplish was destroyed? Divine intervention doesn't imply a positive outcome. Look at the Spanish Armada.
Well heres the thing, we cant know.
But it sure is mysterious that the mysterious ways the lord works in are mysteriously similar to random chance.
Concrete proof would undo free will. If you knew for certain there was a God, you'd have no choice but to worship Him.
Why? Why does a perfect being need to be worshiped?
He doesn't. Worshipping Him does nothing for Him besides what it does to you. You have nothing you can offer the almighty besides the good you can foster in yourself and others.
I hereby provide an account to you, that year ago I have fricked your mom. I guess you can't deny that it happened.
>Considering we aren't in continuous torment ala 'I have no mouth and I must scream', this can't be true.
There are waaay more ways to suffer than not. Not even be happy, just not suffer. All of those are also waaay easier to accomplish.
>That there has been countless accounts of divine interventions throughout history rules this out also.
Based Mormon.
>. Gnosticism isn't like that, it needs no mental gymnastics to work, it's default position of someone not subjected to previous indoctrination and not too invested into wistful thinking.
kill youself bro and free yourself and return to the pleroma
Not how it works
How is that changing the historical method being unable to support miracles?
>Not how it works
That is how it works. why remain in Yaldaboath's cursed world.
moron
I was going to but now I'm not just to spite you.
>That there has been countless accounts of divine interventions throughout history rules this out also.
What
Gnostism is a blanket term for a large vareity of Chirstian and non-Chirstian, late classical religious movements. Its mostly a meaningless term, but they tended to focus on secret knowledge or revelation rather than faith persay, though of course one had to live according to that secret knowledge. In addition they tended to view physical existence as lesser, and their Chirstology tended to see him as a spirit, only appearing as flesh and blood, or simply controlling a human body.
>What the frick is Gnosticism?
Gnome mysticism.
Are you telling me that there's a small medium at large?