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Ear-to-ear protocol in a faraday cage, also 30 meter underground and shielded concrete.
This, but unironically
Naw, you actually met your partner so tons of metadata, 0 plausible deniability and lits of hard evidence.
Maybe random dead drops typed or pasted from newspaper clippings are secure?
Just accept that all your comms are spied on.
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the mind of a redd1tor, how moronic they are
Not good enough. You're not encrypting your spoken words.
>he doesn't know about neutrino phase eavesdropping
ngmi
XX messenger made by david Chaum, although the most secure it also has some issues with speed.
Brew your own by hashing with true random numbers. You won't be able to decrypt it either, but at least it's secure.
carrier pidgeon
Carrier pigeon is about as secure as regular email.
(XMPP (TLS (PGP (OMEMO*~~)
>Matrix isn't secure because muh independent audits
That shit costs a lot of money you monkey Black person, how about you make a donation large enough so they can pay to have their code audited
IIRC they did have their stuff audited recently
I bet that table was made by an auditor
jami
no glowing middleman
jami is never in these lists, never gets promoted, and never really got any traction or promotion ever since it was created
really makes you wonder why
jami is truly p2p and that makes it hard for adoption, because the average user is a moron which will lose his account given enough time
that's why having a server at least optionally is mandatory for those kinds of apps
yeah, but it can't be helped. if it has to have some kind of recovery option, even tying it to email would be slightly better than a phone number
ofc it's not really a solution to change your approach, but
messaging is not a real storage, so it's always an idiot move to treat it like one
just in terms of usability, probably the worst way to organize data
Jami is never mentioned because it's secure and free from glowBlack person influence.
Jami would be nice if it would fricking work reliably. Buddy and me just use Element for voice chat, works 100%.
Drug dealers all use signal
It's either you are a drug dealer to know, or a glowie successfully monitor all drug dealers who used a compromised app, both are bad anyway and a reason why should not use it.
all online drug dealers here use wickr
absolute hard R moron move to use a service that's tied to your phone number
might as well just make your location public at that point
threema wants $$$ and to be acquired.
wire glows so hard (they recommend it for themselves teehee)
session has the best fundamentals and is the most ambitious, good balance for power users and normies alike.
status has the most beautiful U.I. but limited feature set.
simplex.chat is a fledgling that has superb privacy fundamentals.
>threema to be acquired.
deets?
email+pgp
To talk and chat with normal people:
- Signal (needs phone number)
- Threema (anonymous, costs money but you can buy it for your contacts should you want to)
Otherwise (things no normal person uses):
- PGP-encrpted mail
- OMEMO-encrypted XMPP
- Matrix (still runs like shit and isn't there yet IMO)
To sum it up: Just use Signal for messaging friends and family
>OMEMO-encrypted XMPP
I had my family and some friends all join and use that, thanks to the last Facebook outage.
I miss windows 2000. That was probably peak NT kernel.
reactos will bring it back eventually. their 64bit support is almost complete. and unlike other oses react can use windows drivers so hardware will actually work.
How did you contact them for instructions? Email? SMS?
I showed it to them irl.
Aside from the fact that no one uses it is there anything wrong with Tox?
no notifications apparently
this competition for communication is ridiculous, email has already won by a long shot. people might as well design a modern email client that is open source and with actually easy pgp optional support and other privacy features.
by the time those apps have matured, email clients will support group video calls, with simple protocols, implementation and security.
Thunderbird is actually adding Matrix support.
Briar?
The more I see Signal recommended, the more I think it glows. I trust more the schizophrenic advise of a IQfy user than a privacy expert's one
Its too easy
it runs on phones so that's pretty much all you need to know about it...
That's like doubting uBlockOrigin because everybody recommends it.
Don't fall for the memes, use the secure messenger that normal people are more likely to use use, not the ones for pedophilic IQfy schizos:
I.e. use either iPhone (without iCloud Drive and iCloud Backup) + Signal for convenience or GrapheneOS + Signal for a botnet-free experience.
Signal is actually pretty decent, the only thing they log is that you have a signal account. They have no records of any kind of any of your messages. Proven by a recent glowie op where they asked for all the data from someone who used it. And got the last 4 digits of the phone number and an account creation date lol
Mental outlaw did a video on it
>Mental outlaw
>Opinion dropped
>what?
carrier pigeon + OTP
Wheres msn
PGP and literally anything you want
>the main reason Element isn't recommended is muh audits
That silly. Especially considering it still has glaring issues like sending unencrypted messages randomly when the local room state gets corrupted.
It's amazing how fricking bad Element is; the UI is buggy, weird shit happens in rooms, it's just a shitshow all around half the time. It's only used by technically-minded nerds right now and everyone struggles with it from time to time, there's no way normalgays will pick it over Discord.
And they work on important issues like this:
https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/9547
then contribute if you find issues, moron
Signal was the most normalgay friendly when it could import your SMS history. Without that it is less appealing to them. Also iPhone users are cucked out of changing their default messenger app which sucks for them I guess. Still, Signal has the most traction among normalgays of any other app.
Really and truly guys, unless your a cryptographer and you can understand how the encryption is implemented and audit it yourself. chances are you are already using an intentionally gimped algorythm that some spook slipped a 1 into the code where a 0 should have been and disabled the whole method.
>FUD
t. demoralizing glowie that wants you to use unencrypted messengers
since it's relevant i feel this is a good thread to share my blog.
>inb4 tor i ain't clicking that shit
It's a blog and you will understand why tor when you read it.
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domain names are important insofar as names within human memory point us to ever more accurate information.
So why don't you even have a blog name? let alone a pseudonym?
blogs on clearnet are dying thanks to link aggregator centralized forces / celebrity. Whatwe need is decentralized on-page discoverability as a substitute to secure comms - that means barebone sites ain't gonna cut it. Also, at least give us rss feed with your blog so it isn't so easily forgotten.
>blogs on clearnet are dying
I don't think that's true
I'm not sure I understood your point.
messaging is not "storage", yes. but history matters. imagine if you stored all your emails locally. emails could be important, as well as text messages. if you reason the p2p way, everything is stored locally, and normies WILL lose it, and they will cry when they'll be told that they can't recover anything. server needed. jami is great but won't be adopted because it's truly p2p.
outside of that jami is truly brilliant.
>history matters
messaging history is overrated
a complete counter to that is snapchat, where messaging history disappears by default. messages can be pinned, or screenshotted, which is also very common with other messaging apps, even those with full message history.
chat logs are garbage. they're too conversational, and people are already plucking stuff that's actually important by saving images and files, and taking screenshots, which are likely to stay on the device
and with cloud, people only trust icloud. on android, if they find google photos backup, that's great, otherwise they won't frick with drive, and won't really trust third party chat apps to keep their shit and instead will keep stuff in gallery, downloads and screenshots
so, it might not even matter whether an app preserves history or not, and whether they can back up and recover it or not, if users approach it in a different way that's outside of the app itself
history also includes the retrieval of date from when you're offline. are you suggesting that a sender shall store the information waiting for you to come back online? or that the info constantly navigates in the network waiting for you to come back online so that it's delivered to you. imagine if the world worked like that, in the p2p spirit.
do you think that would work better than a client server architecture?
would it be more efficient?
retrieval of data
What's up with signal requiring your phone number?
>What's the best secure messaging app?
Dino on desktop + blabber on phone.
Simple as.
>signal
>requires phone number
>it's extremely centralized
>recommended to secure my messages and attachments
tox is the official IQfy messenger
everything is secure as long if running on gentoo!
What's the best xmpp app?
xmpp sadly failed, there is no need to talk about it
my pp
Where is whatsapp?
It's literally right there in the image anon.
They know and see everything you do, no matter how you hide.
pigeons carrying messages encrypted with PGP
>signal
>founder is literal ex-CIA
qtox
signal uses Amazon servers and google STUN servers.
API and Server code being open source means jack shit. Unless I can personally SSH into the Server and view the code of live server I won't believe it, and neither should you
isn't there a way to make sure the server code is the one that is claimed to be? using cryptography, signatures, checksums and such