It was an insult for females over a certain age, but the insult was rather to be unmarried and childless than to be a 'virgin', unmarried women past a certain age were either prostitutes or very unlikable, not a good match.
Whereas for males it wasn't an insult at all before the sexual revolution, sure or at least not nearly as much as it is an insult today, because the relationship between a male and a female was much more unbalanced it was incredibly easy for a male to have a girl, and almost mandatory to visit a brothel, even with your father
This is technically correct, but it has gotten a lot worse for a man to be a virgin than before, and went to neutral from extremely good for a woman. So the comparative virtue of virginity for both men and women has been reduced.
Having sex with women makes you a cuck? How are you children so obsessed with who is and isn't having sex and don't even know what a cuckold is? What the frick is wrong with you zoomers? Absolutely neurotic and anal retentive cynical little morons.
I'm using the word "cuck" as a man who will date and or marry a woman who is a prostitute. I guess there really are some men who won't even date women, much less marry them, and only bang them. But for the most part men who have sex with a lot of women will date them even though they are prostitutes.
It was always an insult, anyone can be a virgin. Just that Christian writings praising virginity are remembered because they were written down over and over again and are forced to be recited by children in church every week. Most insults about virginity were guys talking in bars (in ancient Rome, in medieval Baghdad, in 1990s America, etc.) making fun of each other about not getting laid. Everyone knows these social pressures are going on, just most people aren't weird enough to write them down.
>uh actually it's hard to be a vir-
Perhaps it is. Large numbers of the Catholic clergy routinely break their vows of celibacy to have sex with each other (or to rape children).
Eh only horny teenagers take insult to it that much, maybe cause I live in the third world but people here will keep their virginity for marriage and men will be scolded as a man prostitute if he is not a virgin during marriage
Societies have always wanted the common man to serve the common good and sacrifice himself, whether in marriage by working himself into the grave, or in battle.
There are two motivations behind shaming male virgins. The first is a primal, animalistic one: contempt for the presumed inferior man who "can't get a woman" because he's not healthy, virile, or genetically superior enough.
The second, though, has a different motivation. Single men do not need to work hard, nor are they motivated to be loyal to the tribe (whether a literal tribe, or a more modern society or nation). Single men are likely to become increasingly more selfish every year they live: because without a family, they will see any unnecessary effort expended on the group (with the possible exception if their own family members) as a form of psuedo-cuckoldry. So perhaps society is subconsciously trying to drive out single men, because there is a collective sentiment that they are not really part of it, and cannot be fully trusted to act in its interests.
As sexuality became more and more personal and less of an emphasis placed on marriage for political gains, romance in general became a litmus test for personality, the thought runs that you wouldn't be a virgin if you were a decent person to hang around with.
It didn't. Oh man, I dare you to talk up to any woman and ask her if she is a virgin or not. She will not react gladly. And women do not like to talk about sex at all for the most part, they are very embarrassed of the fact that they have sex outside of wedlock. Even though they literally say there is nothing wrong about it, they hate to talk about it because they know they are prostitutes but they are in hardcore denial.
Men on the other hand are much more psychopathic and simply tend to not care about human life. However I will say that I am a virgin (23) and nobody has given me anything about it even when I told them (in BCT of all places).
Why do you think that being a virgin is an insult? The only time I see it used as an insult is when it is directed at ugly men, but I'll be honest, I'm no 10. But I know men far uglier than me that get way more pussy (since I get 0), it's literally so easy, women have no standards.
>Even though they literally say there is nothing wrong about it, they hate to talk about it because they know they are prostitutes but they are in hardcore denial.
brother, i seen women talking openly about how many times they had sex in cars not an inch of shame about having coitus in indecent places it was all fun for them, one even admited that she did it to strangers as well.
>when and how did virginity switch from being a virtue to an insult?
Being a virgin might be impressive if you're an attractive Fundamental Baptist or Mormon or something. It's not so impressive when you're an ugly incel who actually wants to frick but can't
With second wave feminism.
It's only an insult for men.
It's impossible to offend a woman by calling her a virgin.
It was an insult for females over a certain age, but the insult was rather to be unmarried and childless than to be a 'virgin', unmarried women past a certain age were either prostitutes or very unlikable, not a good match.
Whereas for males it wasn't an insult at all before the sexual revolution, sure or at least not nearly as much as it is an insult today, because the relationship between a male and a female was much more unbalanced it was incredibly easy for a male to have a girl, and almost mandatory to visit a brothel, even with your father
It’s only an insult for men to be virgins
We aren’t the same
A woman who gets fricked by a bunch of guys has something wrong with her
A man who doesn’t frick any girls has something wrong with him
Stereotypes don’t come from thin air
This is technically correct, but it has gotten a lot worse for a man to be a virgin than before, and went to neutral from extremely good for a woman. So the comparative virtue of virginity for both men and women has been reduced.
Not true. Religious Chads like Charles George Gordon were known to be virgin in the 19th century and no one would have insulted him for it.
Dying for your israelite masters doesn’t make you alpha. And by all accounts he was either autistic or gay.
He died fighting muslims though.
>A man who doesn’t frick any girls has something wrong with him
Maybe he's just shy
Being a shy male is considered weakness and a personality defect
Men who have sex with a lot of women are cucks and they marry prostitutes. Also, they have no self control.
they doesn't have to marry tho
they doesn't?
That is true. I'm only saying that men who have sex with a lot of women have lower standards, so usually when they get married they marry prostitutes.
Having sex with women makes you a cuck? How are you children so obsessed with who is and isn't having sex and don't even know what a cuckold is? What the frick is wrong with you zoomers? Absolutely neurotic and anal retentive cynical little morons.
Yes? Do you really think that a man who is so perverted as to be a cuck would also be a virgin? Almost like perverts have sex, right?
Men who have sex with a lot of women aren't cucks but they aren't trustworthy, they are people used to lying and cheating.
I'm using the word "cuck" as a man who will date and or marry a woman who is a prostitute. I guess there really are some men who won't even date women, much less marry them, and only bang them. But for the most part men who have sex with a lot of women will date them even though they are prostitutes.
sexual revolution
funnily enough, there was a time in living memory when women would break an engagement if a man lied about his virginity
Bull fricking shit
OP is an incel coping “I-I-I could have ANY girl I want! I’m a virgin because I choose to be”
i don't give a damn about the IQfy shit
jus' want sum info me
having sex isn't rocket science, if you have money you can pay a working girl and have sex.
Incels have standarts and that's why they lose
It was always an insult, anyone can be a virgin. Just that Christian writings praising virginity are remembered because they were written down over and over again and are forced to be recited by children in church every week. Most insults about virginity were guys talking in bars (in ancient Rome, in medieval Baghdad, in 1990s America, etc.) making fun of each other about not getting laid. Everyone knows these social pressures are going on, just most people aren't weird enough to write them down.
>uh actually it's hard to be a vir-
Perhaps it is. Large numbers of the Catholic clergy routinely break their vows of celibacy to have sex with each other (or to rape children).
Eh only horny teenagers take insult to it that much, maybe cause I live in the third world but people here will keep their virginity for marriage and men will be scolded as a man prostitute if he is not a virgin during marriage
Where do you live?
t. muzzie
Certainly not from the Christian or Eastern third world
Societies have always wanted the common man to serve the common good and sacrifice himself, whether in marriage by working himself into the grave, or in battle.
There are two motivations behind shaming male virgins. The first is a primal, animalistic one: contempt for the presumed inferior man who "can't get a woman" because he's not healthy, virile, or genetically superior enough.
The second, though, has a different motivation. Single men do not need to work hard, nor are they motivated to be loyal to the tribe (whether a literal tribe, or a more modern society or nation). Single men are likely to become increasingly more selfish every year they live: because without a family, they will see any unnecessary effort expended on the group (with the possible exception if their own family members) as a form of psuedo-cuckoldry. So perhaps society is subconsciously trying to drive out single men, because there is a collective sentiment that they are not really part of it, and cannot be fully trusted to act in its interests.
Man society is one big scheme to force men to work for it, aint it?
Quite frankly I don’t give enough of a shit considering how vice-filled and sinful normal society already is with everything else.
As sexuality became more and more personal and less of an emphasis placed on marriage for political gains, romance in general became a litmus test for personality, the thought runs that you wouldn't be a virgin if you were a decent person to hang around with.
>romance in general became a litmus test for personality
ask me how I know you're a woman
with the 60s
a 40 year old man virgin is a wizard
a 40 year old female virgin is a certified psycho
It didn't. Oh man, I dare you to talk up to any woman and ask her if she is a virgin or not. She will not react gladly. And women do not like to talk about sex at all for the most part, they are very embarrassed of the fact that they have sex outside of wedlock. Even though they literally say there is nothing wrong about it, they hate to talk about it because they know they are prostitutes but they are in hardcore denial.
Men on the other hand are much more psychopathic and simply tend to not care about human life. However I will say that I am a virgin (23) and nobody has given me anything about it even when I told them (in BCT of all places).
Why do you think that being a virgin is an insult? The only time I see it used as an insult is when it is directed at ugly men, but I'll be honest, I'm no 10. But I know men far uglier than me that get way more pussy (since I get 0), it's literally so easy, women have no standards.
>Even though they literally say there is nothing wrong about it, they hate to talk about it because they know they are prostitutes but they are in hardcore denial.
brother, i seen women talking openly about how many times they had sex in cars not an inch of shame about having coitus in indecent places it was all fun for them, one even admited that she did it to strangers as well.
>when and how did virginity switch from being a virtue to an insult?
Being a virgin might be impressive if you're an attractive Fundamental Baptist or Mormon or something. It's not so impressive when you're an ugly incel who actually wants to frick but can't
i am a proud virgin