Where does the meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome come from? As far as I can tell they are almost the complete opposite
>Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
>Have an entirely different religion, culture, and lifestyle from the Roman Empire
>Literally destroy the direct continuation of the Roman Empire
>Wage war against Europe (most of which have a stronger claim to succession than you) for centuries
>Ottoman Empire falls apart, and Turkey becomes a regressive shithole yet still shit up the internet pretending to be Romans
Is it simply because the Turks have Constantinople? Or is it just because it pisses of Greeks?
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>meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome
Not a meme when it is true.
>Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
You can trace their ancestry back to the Trojans which is same as that of Rome from Western Roman empire
>Have an entirely different religion, culture, and lifestyle from the Roman Empire
You can say the same about literally anything. Even Western Roman empire went from Pagan to Christian. Religion was never a criteria. Nor was the language.
>Literally destroy the direct continuation of the Roman Empire
Venetians did that in 1204. Mehmet II restored Rome to it's former glory.
>Wage war against Europe
Wage war agains European Barbarians. FTFY. Also that's a very Roman thing to do. Rome Constantly invaded Germania.
>Ottoman Empire falls apart, and Turkey becomes a regressive shithole
Feels like some Greek troony wrote this but I will bite. Roman republic collapsed and Roman Empire was established. Similarly as Ottoman empire was a successor to Roman empire, Ataturk restored the Roman Republic from the Fall of the empire. It all rhymes.
You still haven't given a single reason why they're the legitimate successor
>Posted about Trojan Ancestry
>Greekoid troony OP Can't read
Understandable.
Anyway, if that's not enough then House of Osman had blood relations with Romans. On top of that Mehemet II gets to claim the Right of Conquest. Makes him equivalent to Constantine the Great or Septimus Severus. Both of them were closely associated with Nova Roma.
>Oh gee I had blood relations with Rome so I'm Rome
If you found a wounded old man on the street, and you beat him to death and rob his corpse for his valuables. Does it make you his heir, worthy of his titles?
this implies that modern turks are basically mongols.
>brown gypsy durka subhumans
people that unironically talk like this are moronic.
cope
Dilate
>this implies that modern turks are basically mongols.
No
They look like pure blood gypsies.
they look eastern med
modern turks are basically gypsies
Being a gypsy is an Indo-European trait, particularly among Romanians/Romani people.
Gypsies are turkish diaspora in Europe.
Rapebaby Balkanite hands typed this post
>particularly among Romanians/Romani people
Learn what you're talking about before posting
the Ottoman sultans had Byzantine blood and the Anatolian Turks descended from these Romans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_(Roman_province)
still crying the Ottomans were the third Rome
>Not a meme when it is true
But it isn't true.
>Trojans
Turks have no cultural, genetic, racial, or linguistic connection with the Trojans.
>You can say [x] about [y] for anything.
Yes and? It doesn't dispute or refute the fact Turks have no connection to the Romans or Trojans.
>Venetians did that in 1204.
Manzikert happened two centuries before that.
>agains European Barbarians
Tell us about the amazing scientific, academic, and mathematical achievements TURKISH scientists contributed, we can wait, Memet.
>Feels like some Greek troony wrote this.
How so?
>Roman republic collapsed and Roman Empire was established.
What does that have to do with the allied powers in World War 1 partitioning the Ottoman Empire's territories whole sale? Outside powers did not take over colonial holdings, territories, and domains from the Romans when they transitioned from a republic to a principate/empire. Yet the British and French took everything from the Ottoman Turks in the Levant and Mesopotamia; Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, etc...and the already independent Arab nations like the Kingdom of Saudi gained more influence.
Sounds like your coping to me.
>Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
you are wrong we are romans
Based
Yes, we Caesars and seeds of Turuk-Hai.
çok yaşa Turuk Türkmen!
Is just because Mehmet the conqueror was a massive Romanboo others Ottoman sultans didn't care much for the tittle
Suleyman Kanuni was also a huge Romaboo
nice try roach
It‘s
>CÆSAR•SOLÆMANVS•CANONIVS
to you, barbare.
based
>Mehmet
I think you mean MAHOMETVS
it is merely another manifestation of the eternally evil nomad, huns, mongols, turks, all of them the same
>Posts about how evil nomads are
>Also posts an Indo-European
a cringy looking nobody at that
>Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
Hittite Empire, Arzawa, Assuwa League, Troy, Ephesus, Pergamum, Phrygia, Lydia, Lycia, Bithynia, Paphlagonia, Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia and Commagene, the Roman province of Asia, the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia, the Byzantine Empire, Seljuk Empire
that is seen in genetic studies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people#Haplogroup_distributions
>Have an entirely different religion, culture, and lifestyle from the Roman Empire
Rome had many religious changes in its history, first it was the cult of Zeus, then Mithraism, then Christianity, it is normal that they are now Muslims
>Literally destroy the direct continuation of the Roman Empire
they were not and we are the true successors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_the_Roman_Empire#Ottoman_Empire_after_1453
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(title)#Ottoman_Empire
>Wage war against Europe (most of which have a stronger claim to succession than you) for centuries
just like ancient Rome did in the past
>Ottoman Empire falls apart, and Turkey becomes a regressive shithole yet still shit up the internet pretending to be Romans
I see Turkey better than Italy and ISTANBUL continues to be the most populated city in Europe and the most beautiful
pic related
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_the_Roman_Empire#Ottoman_Empire_after_1453
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(title)#Ottoman_Empire
Crowned by a Patriarch
Right of conquest
Better religion
'avenging' the Romans
Literally all the things the Franks and Germans claimed.
>first it was the cult of Zeus, then Mithraism, then Christianity
Zeus was not a Roman god and Mithraism was a popular but not dominant religion.
rape baby collection
we are romans
It's a larp, those brown gypsy durka subhumans are anything but "Roman". Romani maybe
someone is just copy and pasting troll threads.
there are two of threads about this nonsense rn.
>Where does the meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome come from?
One or two mentally ill roaches on LULZ
Romans usually view their capital as the state itself. So when they moved it to Constantinople, everyone, even including the Barbarians who conquered the western half, acknowledged the entity that controlled Constantinople as the Roman Empire itself, or at least it's successor.
The connection with Constantinople is often cited as the main argument of states like Russia (because of similar culture and religion, also royal lineage) and Turkey/Ottomans (holds the city itself) on why they deserve to be called the true successor of Rome.
The only reason why the western empires such as the Franks/HRE considers themselves as heirs is because the papacy, which is headquartered in Rome, proclaimed Charlemagne as the true Roman emperor. They also have the military, political, and religious means to make that as a fact, even if logic disagrees with them.
>Romans usually view their capital as the state itself.
They viewed their nation as their Imperium, which although rarely represented reality was their beliefs of Rome's power and how far it went. Not just a single city.
>Mehmet almost invaded Rome
Son of Aeneas visiting his relatives. VGH.
Turks have exactly as much legitimacy to claim Rome as germanic Franks with their HRE
>american incel larpers will seethe at this
No, the Ottoman claim is arguably the strongest.
Ottomans
>destroyed ERE
>roaches claim "succession" of empire they destroyed
>YES PLEASE MEHMET AVE TRVE TO SVLTAN
Germans:
>destroy WRE
>claim "succession" for the empire they destroyed
>LMAO look at these german idiots they aren't roman
If you idiots want to claim roaches have any claim to rome, you be ready to concede tat the HRE was a legitimate successor state and with russian third rome LARP
I think the eastern roman emperor gave the title to the ottomans, or some random noble did, this they are by right of conquest
Yes, Turuk Turkoman and his son and heir, Turuk Hai, are the legitimate successors of Julius Caesar. They are related genetically, and Caesar was Muslim.
Spain is the legitimate successor of Rome.
Prove me wrong.
No, prove YOURSELF RIGHT and then we can talk.
Nope
Legal Roman will gave the title to King Ferdinand of Castile.
do you have a source thats not a youtube video
No, no seed of Turuk Turkomen and Turuk-Hai in Spain, so no Caesar.
dayalı
Turkomens also original white people you gay europe.
A B V S E D
In order of who gets to claim the inheritance of the Roman Empire it goes
1) Italians
POWER GAP
2) Greeks and Anatolian Turks
3) Spaniards
Nobody else
No, Turuk-Hai the son of Rome, better claim than Italians.
the byzantines were a continuation of the roman empire until 1453
their cultural identity was roman until up to 500 years ago
italians were roman 1500 years ago
spaniards were roman 1000 years ago
The Greeks were Roman long after 1453
Turks are literally anatolians who were roman then assimilated into the turkic identity
No, who make more pizza? Turkmen. We the greatest pizza inventor, gay europe.
t. butthurtt diaspora
Clearly you need some IstanBVLL.
Low quality bait. Even the Turks on this board speak better English than that.
You don't even know who is Turuk-Hai, why would i listen you?
the original romans are white
the Turks of Anatolia are a mix of Arabs, Persians and Hittites
The Roman legacy can only be claimed by those currently living in Anatolia, the rest of the East Asian Turks are chinks without any blood relationship with Rome.
Lol, you don't even know history. Everybody knows that Turok did hunt dinosaurs, and he was first white person and a Turk.
>germans conquer western rome and claim their title as roman empire
>turks conquer eastern rome and claim their title as roman empire
What do you not understand about this?
It's the exact same situation as the
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The HRE isn't a successor either. Your entire "whaddabout!!!" is as illegitimate as you are.
Because the Ottoman Caliph referred to himself as the Roman Emperor, and every argument for Byzantium being the rightful heir to Rome applies to the Ottomemes as well.
This isn't complicated.
This is a ginormous LARP. Rome had imperial titles and the ERE transfered theirs to Spain which descended from actual Rome. Now cope
They didn't call themselves Romans nor was their state known as the roman empire.
It's a turkroach cope. No, I'm not greek.
>Where does the meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome come from?
reality
right of conquest
they have at LEAST as much claim to the title as the HRE does
of course, mehmet was the only one who really cared
as far as i know and i didnt research any of this
>seljuks invade anatolia
>arab word for romans(byzantines) is rum or so
>most western seljuk state in anatolia is called rum
>they fragment off the seljuk empire and become the sultanate of rum
>ottomans fragment off the sultanate
>most of the subjects are "romans"
>being roman is high prestige shit
>claim to be the new roman empire
its the steppeBlack person we wuz caesars n shieet