Which one of these has the real claim to being the successor to the Roman Empire?
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Which one of these has the real claim to being the successor to the Roman Empire?
Which one of these has the real claim to being the successor to the Roman Empire?
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fpbp and /thread
the rest of the replies are factually wrong
Moors can't be succesors to a christian empire, anon
Thats why I said Spain and not Morocco
You might be american
based universal catholic empire enjoyer
none of them, but i'd say italy's closest
Germany.
>russia
Lol they arent even western
Russia has a better claim than Turkey, Germany or France
>better claim than countries that existed in the Roman Empire's borders
no
cope ivan
Didn't stop the autists from calling themselves "Third Rome"
Define "Western"?
Pic related
Can't forget their ancient enemies the Persians
Literally cousins yes. Just like nords are.
He used to look like Chrissy
Who cares?
Why'd you leave out Romania? Named for the Romans and everything.
>Byzantium/Latin Empire original name
That be the Austro-Hungarian actually.
None of them, but Russia's the closest
the ottomans (r1a diguised as j2 empire)
almost like r1a was mocking r1b and saying that they could do it too
Doesn't the king of Spain have a claim on the byzantine empire?
Italy and Italy alone.
Rome practiced soulless, parasitic variants of imperialism.
So the only true answer is which of the countries had a variant of imperialism that was close.
All imperialism is inherently parasitic you dumbass.
None of them.
Your map of Russia is wrong.
The first one to claim to be the Roman Empire gets it
So far nobody has bothered for the last 100 years or so
All of them, Rome birthed many nations from her womb, and her inheritance given to all of them.
Turkey
By blood?
Italy.
By marriage?
Russia.
By autism?
Germany.
>Turks
If Odoacer wasn’t a continuation of the Roman Empire, then Turkey can’t either. The fact is that they destroyed Rome and replaced it with their own thing.
>France
I literally can’t think of a single reason why. Charlemagne? The French Revolution destroyed that.
>Bulgaria and Serbia
Lol no
>Greece
Maybe by blood, but only the the Eastern Empire. Constantinople should be theirs because of autism as well.
USA
America
The United States of America
They are more like byzantium,brits are the real romans
The Byzantines up until they collapsed. The Turks did not inherit it, though.
I’d say Italy, after that, just by power of blood.
>illegitimate because uhhh... it just is okay?
Really, that's your takeaway from that image
Heh nice someone posted it
correctfully the vatican is romes successor and the pope caesars. but it goes deeper. thr bloodline goes back thousands more years. rest is hinge state to totality. almost there
only correct answers in a sea of youtube pop-history garbage
The absolute state of papists
it's usually people that use the term "papist" that try to link the Roman Catholic Church in a negative way to ancient Rome.
Your rogue patriarch will never be a roman.
It's probably Turkey given all the evidence.
>Existed in Roman borders
>Took over Roman territories
>Annexed a Roman empire
>People descended from Romans
>Held an centralised seat of power
Britain
>part of Rome
>Latin language, alphabet, words
>the Kingdom of Gwynedd was the last post-Roman (Romano-British) successor state to fall in the West
>largest empire in human history, started a Pax Britannica
>Native language is the lingua franca
It would be always between France, Italy, Spain and Portugal, at least looking at historical attachments - connection to Rome and achievments
Greece, unironically
none of them
pay denbts, german owned clay
Greece. Not such as a successor state, but as heir to the empire's language, culture and religion.
Forgot to add: also by religion. This text defines the core of Roman Christianity, on which all later Christian denominations are based, written by the church's fathers at the council called by Constantine the Great himself. Only the citizens of one country in the world today are still able to read and comprehend it in its original language written by the Romans some 17 centuries ago, and they still cite it every Sunday non stop ever since, even though the Roman empire is long gone. So that pretty much settles it.
Aren't modern Greeks able to understand Koine Greek at least partly on the basis of exposure and study? Not to mention the conservative spelling disguises the changes in pronunciation over the centuries.
Romania
Rome still exist moron
Pic related
Him and what empire?
The habsburg are politcily active in the EU you fricking idot
Their Empire is now effectively Bigger then ever
>Ethnically
Italians
>Culturally
French
>Religiously
Greeks
>Politically
Turks
>Politically
>Language
Two Germans
>French
>Greeks
>Turks
my ass
What's your objection?
There's no such thing as an ethnically Roman and never was. Even from their early stages, Romans integrated into their ethnicity people from all around the area (Latins, Greeks, Etruscans) and, in later stages, from all around the world with the edict of Caracalla.
Only Italy or Greece
>greece
never happened
albania.
None of them. They are all barbarians.
The United States, unironically. The spirit of the Roman Empire passed down from Rome to France to Britain to the US. Europe is forsaken.
maybe decades earlier. US is falling now.
Literally never better
Russia
None of them. But I would say that the Catholic Church can legitimately claim to be a surviving remnant of the Roman administrative state.
I know you're gonna hate this, but it's unironically us. Because we didn't make our claim based off
>we technically inherited some decrepit title that confers administrative power
>we conquered this one place that means we rule now
>we live in the remnants of their once great shit
We modelled our society after theirs and with all factors combined ended up naturally following a very similar trajectory. USA doesn't claim to be Rome II, it just simply is Rome II.
It is totally Serbia
Turkey because Roman empire continued with Ottoman Empire. Ottoman Empire basically Roman Empire.
sultan instead of caesar but still otto
If the reason you say Turkey is because they have the second Rome (as not even its capital), then I have a very small suggestion about an even better claim.
>Hint: consider the "second" Rome
someone post the finland chart
>Ethnically
India
>Culturally
India
>Religiously
India
>Politically
India
indian empire under raj handoff maybe
None of them.
The United States
Catholic Church
America
Bulgaria
The EU is the only entity that could claim so. Wisely, it doesn't, because claiming succession of a state that's been gone for 1500 years is moronic LARPing.
>Frankia & East Frankia
A bunch of usurpers that almost became the legit thing (Karlus marriage with Irene, Otto III being half-roman) but devolved in wewuzzers that started another Empire when the Corsican guy knocked their door.
>Bulgaria and Serbia
Obnoxious usurpers.
>Italy
May have roman blood but became dominated by barbarians.
Only the ones in the south were true romans til the muslims & normans conquered them.
>Hellas
Ethnoreligious divisions were a thing under the ottomans, so anyone from greek orthodox faith would be a "roman".
Still, having a germoid king is the most cucked and unroman thing they did.
>Turkiye
Ataturk & co. abolished the Sultanate so no. Even then, late Ottoman sultans disavowed larping as romans.
Mehmed's claim was fake and gay. Even his son was ashamed of his larping.
>Spain
Konstantinos Dragases Palaiologos never named any of his brothers as succesors, so no.
>Russia
Lmao no, even if they had the imperial regalia.
Italy+France+Spain+Portugal+Wallonia+Romandia+Ticino+other small pieces pf Latin world in Western Europe.
*Btw - Napoleon, technically, did it. Revived the very Roman Empire, albeit for a short time.
Imagine if they decided to yoink all the land west of the Rhine on top of that
Obviously Russia.
The Empire declind at every point as it took on new ideologies.
Republic>Empire>Theocracy>LARPfest
The initial concept moved eastwards, as the rest of the world developed. Russia ended up with millennia old beliefs, and have been larping ever since.
What is Russia if not a Viking colony LARPing as Rome?
Russia has always been and asiatic tyranny, they have absolutely nothing roman in them.
This video examines that question.
The one that had Rome's approval
>r*ssia
>Rome
It wouldn't be more obvious who is behind this picture if an Indian put his country on it.
None really but I'd go with Italy or Greece doe to their undeniable links betweens their current territories, peoples, languages and cultures and the old imperial cores, still there is no legitimate link between the empire and these nations anyways.
Who cares? Rome was a garbage tier civilization that contributed nothing of value to the world and it deserves to be forgotten.
As a political entity it's the US.
European nations (even at the peak at their respective empires) have always been more like ancient greek cities with.
Only the US has the kind of insolent prosperity and military hegemon Rome possessed.
I also think the US is approaching its equivalent of the fall of the republic, Trump had something of caesarian in terms of politics but he pussied out at the last moment instead of crossing the Rubicon.
t. Frog
Anglos will never be successors to Rome.
There are key differences with america and the republic. The republic had a couple of fatal flaws, primarily that politicians had their own armies. Imagine if Trump personally controlled a portion of the US military that was loyal only to him rather than the state, it would be a very different circumstance. American trump cannot cross the rubicon even if he wanted to, he doesn't have the means to.
Bulgaria
britian