Yeah. Only because I don't like the alternatives.
If Mozilla keeps their word on how they're gonna handle ManifestV3 vs. Chromium browsers, then that's probably not going to change for a while.
>If Mozilla keeps their word on how they're gonna handle ManifestV3 vs. Chromium browsers, then that's probably not going to change for a while.
I'm sure the 96% Google funded puppet will keep their promise.
I don't get what you're trying to say
Are you implying Google is willingly paying Mozilla to NOT implement all the features of Manifest V3 so that Adblockers will continue to function properly on Firefox?
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/05/18/manifest-v3-in-firefox-recap-next-steps/
which shows that the DNR API will now support denyallow. Nice try tho, you get an A for effort sweaty.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>supports one feature of ubo in a gimped shitty way >100 other missing features still not addressed
nice try google shill
2 years ago
Anonymous
>However, it's still not possible to implement noop rules, which purpose is to ignore inherited block/allow rules and fall back strictly on static filters, and which is a key concept to dynamic filtering.
>Summary, latest version of declarativeNetRequest, as per documentation, still breaks dynamic filtering in uBO, due to the inability to implement the noop concept.
>Also, still no way to implement blocking according to response header content, so preventing the no-large-media-elements per-site switch, or the new experimental header= filter option. Also, no match for strict1p, strict3p, and so on as I looked more into the latest documentation.
>Again, as per declarativeNetRequest documentation, regex-based filters are limited to 1000 (and also as per declarativeNetRequest, a regex-based filter can be rejected).
>And each time one would click to create/remove a temporary rule as is typically often done when working in medium or hard mode, uBO would have to recompile, remove and reinstall all the dynamic rules.
>In discussion with filter list maintainers, last year I implemented a new feature, the ability to use "entity" in domain= option.[1] The DNR API does support domain= option, but it does not support "entity", which is the ability to use a wildcard in place of the effective TLD, to avoid to list all domains belonging to an entity.[2]
>The core issue is the lid on innovation, which is key for content blocker to stay reliable. If the DNR API had been designed in 2014 according to the requirements of the time, content blockers would be awfully equipped to deal properly with the current landscape. The DNR API as designed now not only set back content blockers, but condemn content blockers to stagnate innovation-wise.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>The core issue is the lid on innovation, which is key for content blocker to stay reliable. If the DNR API had been designed in 2014 according to the requirements of the time, content blockers would be awfully equipped to deal properly with the current landscape. The DNR API as designed now not only set back content blockers, but condemn content blockers to stagnate innovation-wise.
This is literally the main problem. Even if Google pulled all the stops to make DNR powerful enough to completely port ublock origin 100% (which hasnt and will never happen), you're still at the mercy of Google (the ad company) to keep up with the requirements for powerful adblockers and implement the necessary changes in DNR. webRequest lets ublock origin have its own filtering engine
2 years ago
Anonymous
lmao dynamic filtering is an advanced mode thing that almost no one actually uses, just use NoScript instead
Recently adding ads to the URL bar
https://www.techradar.com/news/ads-have-even-invaded-the-firefox-url-bar-now
EME DRM botnet downloaded by default
Pocket (proprietary service, ads, promoted content)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Pocket#History >The integration was controversial, as users displayed concerns for the direct integration of a proprietary service into an open source application, and that it could not be completely disabled without editing advanced settings, unlike third-party extensions.
Automatically installing Mr. Robot adware through experimental extensions program
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mozilla-backpedals-after-mr-robot-firefox-misstep/
Promotes Cloudflare DNS MitM botnet
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/mozilla.html#cloudflare
Inferior fingerprinting protection and other leaks
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1372288
Breaking compatibility for old extensions
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2018/08/21/timeline-for-disabling-legacy-firefox-add-ons/
Breaking add-on certificate signing, disabling NoScript on Tor browser and threatening millions of users
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/05/05/firefox-extensions-are-broken-heres-what-to-do/
Breaking css UI customization features
Breaking user modifiable options (most recent compact mode)
https://www.ghacks.net/2021/04/07/mozilla-decides-to-hide-compact-mode-in-firefox-for-new-users-but-keep-it-for-existing-ones/
Removing about:config sorting and filtering, completely removed on Android
https://www.ghacks.net/2019/01/31/firefoxs-new-aboutconfig-page/
Poor security, even with Fission they are years behind (especially on Android)
https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html
Overall performance sucks and has not improved (loses in 90% of benchmarks)
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-95-Chrome-97
Brave is keeping Manifest v2 support
https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-brave-vivaldi-to-ignore-chromes-anti-ad-blocker-changes-despite-shared-codebase/ >"To respond on the declarativeWebRequest change (restricting webRequest in full behind an enterprise policy screen), we will continue to support webRequest for all extensions in Brave," Eich told ZDNet.
The rainbow cat gay is wrong, Eich knows that the enterprise timeline will be extended indefinitely, ultimately doesn't matter as uBO will become a full MV3 extension now that DNR API has been expanded to accomodate denyallow
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The rainbow cat gay
The rainbow cat gay is Simeon Vincent, the main tech lead for Chromium extensions, you're moronic
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol I don't care who that gay is, I trust Eich any day over someone with a rainbow cat avatar on twatter, seethe
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I trust brendan israelite over the actual google employee working on chrome
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I trust based brendan over the actual ~~*google*~~ employee working on ~~*chrome*~~
correct
2 years ago
Anonymous
>based ~~*anti-racist*~~ brendan
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dilate /misc/tard
2 years ago
Anonymous
/misc/ tard when it is convenient
you are a shill
2 years ago
Anonymous
this is the look of a homosexual who's has one too many bowls of lucky charms with onions milk
2 years ago
Anonymous
>~~*Simeon Vincent*~~
2 years ago
Anonymous
>muh denyallow
Doesn't change anything
2 years ago
Anonymous
It does, seethe harder
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope, your extensions are still broken
2 years ago
Anonymous
werks on my machine, keep seething
2 years ago
Anonymous
This change hasn't even shipped yet
2 years ago
Anonymous
lmao at the fireshitter cope, hurp durp it'll stop working, nope, brave will keep supporting it, cope, seethe, dilate, in that order :^)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Follow the reply chain. The initial claim was that Brave will keep MV2 extensions. It wont and this was confirmed by the main tech lead for Chromium extensions.
Then it was claimed uBlock Origin will only use Google's limited Manifest V3, which is apparently good now thanks to a minor change to the static filtering.
Most Brave users do not install uBlock Origin or uMatrix. It doesn't matter if MV2 is removed or MV3 limited in Chromium. Brave uses a native adblocker in Rust which they have written themselves.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>confirmed by the main tech lead for Chromium extensions
that homosexual has nothing to do with what brave does
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Chromium dev has nothing to do brave
Are you actually moronic? The whole reason people don't like Chromium-based browsers is they never have enough manpower to overturn Google's decisions long-term.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's why Mozilla is 100% independent from Google and totally not bankro-ACK
>We could fork them back in at higher maintenance cost. No point in speculating — I don’t write checks of unknown amount and sign them, and Google looks likely to keep V2 support for a year (thanks be to “enterprise”)
Nice cherrypicking Firefox shill
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Google looks likely to keep V2 support for a year (thanks be to “enterprise”)
June 2023 is less than a year
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's *a* year which will be more than enough time for uBO to become MV3 which gorhill said will happen now
2 years ago
Anonymous
Proof please.
2 years ago
Anonymous
see
uBO will be MV3, sneed
cope harder
2 years ago
Anonymous
>still cherrypicking
Ads are displayed by Javascript right? Who was it that made Javascript again? Oh yeah BRENDAN EICH.
>moving the goalposts
you Brave homosexuals made me hate that fricking browser. Bunch of brainless goddamn shills. Frick off
Mozilla was the mainstream goto browser back then, back then the people who wrote the code ran the company, and then chrome happened and wept the floor with em and Google owns them now.
firefox the only suitable option? can it be gutted to get rid of any overhead?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, thats what these are
https://librewolf.net/
https://www.waterfox.net/
2 years ago
Anonymous
>https://librewolf.net/
Meme fork with placebo privacy features that break a lot of websites >https://www.waterfox.net/
Owned by a literal botnet company
Still using 87.0b9 + uBlock every day. Why change what works? >muh CVEs
Not a problem if you're not moronic.
Most of those things can be done in FF if you enable resist fingerprinting and "strict" tracking protection, though it's more of a pain in the ass than anything.
>>he believes the earth is flat
>these are the people shilling lion browser to you everywhere
>>muh seatbelts >Not a problem if you're not moronic.
Not caring about your safety is fine... until you need it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are a few reasons why I won't update. >changed UI and it no longer matches W10, would have to use another shitty extension to fix it >renamed undo close tab >removed view image >removed FTP support
God knows what they've removed and changed since then, I haven't kept up. It's still the best browser there is. At least this version is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
UI and it no longer matches W10, would have to use another shitty extension to fix it
userChrome.css
undo close tab
omg literally hitler
view image
use an extension
FTP support
deprecated protocol
enjoy your CVEs sweaty
2 years ago
Anonymous
>enjoy your CVEs
Thank you, I will. >sweaty
*sweetie, you ESL.
>Most of those things can be done in FF if you enable resist fingerprinting and "strict" tracking protection, though it's more of a pain in the ass than anything.
Just use Strict without the Tor fingerprinting thing and it shouldn't interfere with anything.
can someone just make me user.js that only stops firefox making any background connections at all, including potentially usefull ones like tracking protection
>including potentially usefull ones like tracking protection
Pointless. """""""""""""""""""background""""""""""""""""""" connections like OCSP improve privacy and security. enjoy your shit "private" browser that serves you certs being exploited by glowBlack folk. ocsp exposes this
ocsp is good and i do use it on my main firefox instance, but this is for special purposes
and also ocsp isn't really background connection because it is done when you connect to website serving the certificate
Recently adding ads to the URL bar
https://www.techradar.com/news/ads-have-even-invaded-the-firefox-url-bar-now
EME DRM botnet downloaded by default
Pocket (proprietary service, ads, promoted content)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Pocket#History >The integration was controversial, as users displayed concerns for the direct integration of a proprietary service into an open source application, and that it could not be completely disabled without editing advanced settings, unlike third-party extensions.
Automatically installing Mr. Robot adware through experimental extensions program
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mozilla-backpedals-after-mr-robot-firefox-misstep/
Promotes Cloudflare DNS MitM botnet
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/mozilla.html#cloudflare
Inferior fingerprinting protection and other leaks
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1372288
Breaking compatibility for old extensions
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2018/08/21/timeline-for-disabling-legacy-firefox-add-ons/
Breaking add-on certificate signing, disabling NoScript on Tor browser and threatening millions of users
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/05/05/firefox-extensions-are-broken-heres-what-to-do/
Breaking css UI customization features
Breaking user modifiable options (most recent compact mode)
https://www.ghacks.net/2021/04/07/mozilla-decides-to-hide-compact-mode-in-firefox-for-new-users-but-keep-it-for-existing-ones/
Removing about:config sorting and filtering, completely removed on Android
https://www.ghacks.net/2019/01/31/firefoxs-new-aboutconfig-page/
Poor security, even with Fission they are years behind (especially on Android)
https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html
Overall performance sucks and has not improved (loses in 90% of benchmarks)
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-95-Chrome-97
I started using Netscape Navigator in the 90s and simply never left
Firefox is comfy, and it's got the huge bonus of being simple to move and backup profiles. Some tabs on my desktop have been there for 10 years, through reinstalls and upgrades
I refuse to surrender to google in their ongoing conquest of the web. Only Firefox and Safari stand against a web dominated by one web browser engine, which is controlled by google. Obviously, not going to use safari.
Classic small minded thinking. This is about the future of the web, and whether a single entity will be able to dictate its future development. We already lost the DRM battle but it can always get worse.
>This is about the future of the web, and whether a single entity will be able to dictate its future development
Not my problem
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/1-client-hints/
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/8-first-party-sets/
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/7-googles-topics-api/
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/3-web-bundles/
I use it because of better fonts contrast, also it can render wierd css sizes like "0.7 em" and "98 vw" unlike chrom which makes them look blurry. Oh and tabs are the best part about ff, how they hide when there is to many, smoothest and comfiest thing ever. Vivaldi tried to copy them, but failed.
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#librewolf >LibreWolf is to Firefox what Ungoogled-Chromium is to Chrome. At least, so it seems, but it does not take a strict stance against unsolicited requests like Ug-C does (which is also my view - zero unsolicited requests is optimal). It includes the uBlock Origin addon by default (instead of the much superior uMatrix), and automatically updates the lists for it - as well as making a request to Mozilla's servers for their Tracking Protection. Otherwise, LibreWolf is not doing anything special, just changing some settings (which can also be accomplished by the many user.js files floating around). Their issue tracker is on gitlab which is Cloudflared and doesn't work in Pale Moon; this does not affect the browser directly, but shows the developers don't respect the users or care about their privacy. Packages for some distros, Windows and macOS exist - as well as an AppImage if your distro isn't on the list. Overall, this is the way to go if you want Firefox without (most of) the privacy violations. But - since they've only got five devs on the team - LibreWolf will always be dependent on Mozilla and unable to reverse any of their major shitty decisions, so watch out. Let me reiterate, this is nothing more than Firefox with a few settings changed and uBlock Origin added on top.
I use FF developer edition
I just like the font rendering better, it just works well for me and I can make the fricker look and behave how I want it. Chromium based web browsers just don't offer this. The closest is Vivaldi and it's some janky stuff.
Is there a relatively simple way to run two ff versions on my machine with the same profile?
Currently I have ff 83 and a chromium for when sites don't support it.
You cant. preference behavior changes and database formats change from version to version so you'll destroy your profile trying to run it in two different versions. Best you can do is use firefox sync to keep two distinct profiles synchronized
>2005-2011
Firefox >2012-2014
Nightly (this was peak ricing era). Le bleeding edge hax0r XD. >2015-
Firefox
I also have dillo installed because the lack of js is great for paywalled/nagscreen shit. Just paste in the link and it gives you the text you're looking for without loading elements. Highly recommend dillo as a "companion" browser.
dildo doesn't even support https and it's abanonware, gee I wonder why a glowie would call someone a glowie for pointing that out, if terry were alive he'd run your ass over
I only have internet since 2007, i used firefox for 1 year, because internet explorer was dogshit, then in 2008 chrome came out and i started using it as soon as it was in beta, still using it. I think most of the firefox users are the stuck in the windows 7 era ones, they might even use windows 7 in 2022 lol, also loonix users and trannies.
The alternatives are
1) Chrome/Chromium (used by like 70% of people making it the biggest target for exploits)
2) Browsers that are obscure and don't have as much support/add-ons
3) Stick a dildo up my ass and use Safari
4) Use Firefox, it's fast enough, well established, great extensions still, customizable, nobody cares to hack it anymore, etc.
Seriously, Firefox (and forks) is the only decent choice as far as I can tell. Or maybe Opera.
fully upgraded is only $1939 >apple m2 chip 8-core cpu, 10-core gpu, 16-core neural engine >24gb ram >1tb ssd
even without a discount its only $2100 max
You're absolutely moronic >HTTPS Everywhere
deprecated >Privacy Badger
redundant with uBO, especially redundant with uMatrix >Ghostery
holy frick, literally spyware and also redundant with uBO/uM
Me
It just works
What do you use instead? What is better`?
https://waterfox.net/
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#waterfox
>dig deeper in my ass
this guy has to be the biggest homosexual on neocities
Yes
Boomers and morons
Yeah. Only because I don't like the alternatives.
If Mozilla keeps their word on how they're gonna handle ManifestV3 vs. Chromium browsers, then that's probably not going to change for a while.
>If Mozilla keeps their word on how they're gonna handle ManifestV3 vs. Chromium browsers, then that's probably not going to change for a while.
I'm sure the 96% Google funded puppet will keep their promise.
I don't get what you're trying to say
Are you implying Google is willingly paying Mozilla to NOT implement all the features of Manifest V3 so that Adblockers will continue to function properly on Firefox?
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/05/18/manifest-v3-in-firefox-recap-next-steps/
It doesn't really matter, they will only support the older API for about a year. Everything will be MV3 by the end of 2023, including uBO.
not what it says in the documentation stupid gay moron
uBO will be MV3, sneed
Nope
>no date on the tweet
lol
https://archive.is/YZ36R
https://twitter.com/gorhill/status/1495417364522930176
>Feb 20
This was over a month before
which shows that the DNR API will now support denyallow. Nice try tho, you get an A for effort sweaty.
>supports one feature of ubo in a gimped shitty way
>100 other missing features still not addressed
nice try google shill
>However, it's still not possible to implement noop rules, which purpose is to ignore inherited block/allow rules and fall back strictly on static filters, and which is a key concept to dynamic filtering.
>Summary, latest version of declarativeNetRequest, as per documentation, still breaks dynamic filtering in uBO, due to the inability to implement the noop concept.
>Also, still no way to implement blocking according to response header content, so preventing the no-large-media-elements per-site switch, or the new experimental header= filter option. Also, no match for strict1p, strict3p, and so on as I looked more into the latest documentation.
>Again, as per declarativeNetRequest documentation, regex-based filters are limited to 1000 (and also as per declarativeNetRequest, a regex-based filter can be rejected).
>And each time one would click to create/remove a temporary rule as is typically often done when working in medium or hard mode, uBO would have to recompile, remove and reinstall all the dynamic rules.
>In discussion with filter list maintainers, last year I implemented a new feature, the ability to use "entity" in domain= option.[1] The DNR API does support domain= option, but it does not support "entity", which is the ability to use a wildcard in place of the effective TLD, to avoid to list all domains belonging to an entity.[2]
>The core issue is the lid on innovation, which is key for content blocker to stay reliable. If the DNR API had been designed in 2014 according to the requirements of the time, content blockers would be awfully equipped to deal properly with the current landscape. The DNR API as designed now not only set back content blockers, but condemn content blockers to stagnate innovation-wise.
>>The core issue is the lid on innovation, which is key for content blocker to stay reliable. If the DNR API had been designed in 2014 according to the requirements of the time, content blockers would be awfully equipped to deal properly with the current landscape. The DNR API as designed now not only set back content blockers, but condemn content blockers to stagnate innovation-wise.
This is literally the main problem. Even if Google pulled all the stops to make DNR powerful enough to completely port ublock origin 100% (which hasnt and will never happen), you're still at the mercy of Google (the ad company) to keep up with the requirements for powerful adblockers and implement the necessary changes in DNR. webRequest lets ublock origin have its own filtering engine
lmao dynamic filtering is an advanced mode thing that almost no one actually uses, just use NoScript instead
samegay
Brave is keeping Manifest v2 support
https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-brave-vivaldi-to-ignore-chromes-anti-ad-blocker-changes-despite-shared-codebase/
>"To respond on the declarativeWebRequest change (restricting webRequest in full behind an enterprise policy screen), we will continue to support webRequest for all extensions in Brave," Eich told ZDNet.
It's not, dilate.
The rainbow cat gay is wrong, Eich knows that the enterprise timeline will be extended indefinitely, ultimately doesn't matter as uBO will become a full MV3 extension now that DNR API has been expanded to accomodate denyallow
>The rainbow cat gay
The rainbow cat gay is Simeon Vincent, the main tech lead for Chromium extensions, you're moronic
lol I don't care who that gay is, I trust Eich any day over someone with a rainbow cat avatar on twatter, seethe
>I trust brendan israelite over the actual google employee working on chrome
>I trust based brendan over the actual ~~*google*~~ employee working on ~~*chrome*~~
correct
>based ~~*anti-racist*~~ brendan
Dilate /misc/tard
/misc/ tard when it is convenient
you are a shill
this is the look of a homosexual who's has one too many bowls of lucky charms with onions milk
>~~*Simeon Vincent*~~
>muh denyallow
Doesn't change anything
It does, seethe harder
Nope, your extensions are still broken
werks on my machine, keep seething
This change hasn't even shipped yet
lmao at the fireshitter cope, hurp durp it'll stop working, nope, brave will keep supporting it, cope, seethe, dilate, in that order :^)
Follow the reply chain. The initial claim was that Brave will keep MV2 extensions. It wont and this was confirmed by the main tech lead for Chromium extensions.
Then it was claimed uBlock Origin will only use Google's limited Manifest V3, which is apparently good now thanks to a minor change to the static filtering.
Most Brave users do not install uBlock Origin or uMatrix. It doesn't matter if MV2 is removed or MV3 limited in Chromium. Brave uses a native adblocker in Rust which they have written themselves.
>confirmed by the main tech lead for Chromium extensions
that homosexual has nothing to do with what brave does
>Chromium dev has nothing to do brave
Are you actually moronic? The whole reason people don't like Chromium-based browsers is they never have enough manpower to overturn Google's decisions long-term.
Yeah that's why Mozilla is 100% independent from Google and totally not bankro-ACK
>We could fork them back in at higher maintenance cost. No point in speculating — I don’t write checks of unknown amount and sign them, and Google looks likely to keep V2 support for a year (thanks be to “enterprise”)
Nice cherrypicking Firefox shill
>Google looks likely to keep V2 support for a year (thanks be to “enterprise”)
June 2023 is less than a year
It's *a* year which will be more than enough time for uBO to become MV3 which gorhill said will happen now
Proof please.
see
cope harder
>still cherrypicking
>moving the goalposts
Seethe
Ads are displayed by Javascript right? Who was it that made Javascript again? Oh yeah BRENDAN EICH.
javascript should have never existed. they should have added features to HTML and CSS instead.
Once someone tells mozilla that adblockers are racist and transphobic we’re fricked tho
Same for me.
When you zoomers sucking milk bottles, this board was heavily opposed to chrom*.
lol moron, chrome wasn't even around back then
Yes, Chrome was out in 2008.
Mozilla was the mainstream goto browser back then, back then the people who wrote the code ran the company, and then chrome happened and wept the floor with em and Google owns them now.
Yeah, and look where that's got us.
https://chrisx.xyz/blog/yet-another-firefox-hardening-guide/
Harden it, castrate all the pocket garbage and telemetry junk. Werks.
>he needs to ~~*harden*~~ his browser
kek
you Brave homosexuals made me hate that fricking browser. Bunch of brainless goddamn shills. Frick off
is librewolf trash??
Yes
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2021/06/02/improving-font-rendering-in-microsoft-edge/
thoughts on vivaldi?
closed source. just use librewolf
Bloated and closed-source
firefox the only suitable option? can it be gutted to get rid of any overhead?
yes, thats what these are
https://librewolf.net/
https://www.waterfox.net/
>https://librewolf.net/
Meme fork with placebo privacy features that break a lot of websites
>https://www.waterfox.net/
Owned by a literal botnet company
>no argument
>trusting a fork made by literal israelites
with criterias like "font cache", "favicon cache" how can anyone take Brave seriously, lmfao
Both are can be used for tracking
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7v5y7/browser-favicons-can-be-used-as-undeletable-supercookies-to-track-you-online
I've seen this chart posted before, and always without comment. What is any of that stuff? How significant is it? Why care?
Still using 87.0b9 + uBlock every day. Why change what works?
>muh CVEs
Not a problem if you're not moronic.
Most of those things can be done in FF if you enable resist fingerprinting and "strict" tracking protection, though it's more of a pain in the ass than anything.
>these are the people shilling lion browser to you everywhere
>>muh seatbelts
>Not a problem if you're not moronic.
Not caring about your safety is fine... until you need it.
There are a few reasons why I won't update.
>changed UI and it no longer matches W10, would have to use another shitty extension to fix it
>renamed undo close tab
>removed view image
>removed FTP support
God knows what they've removed and changed since then, I haven't kept up. It's still the best browser there is. At least this version is.
UI and it no longer matches W10, would have to use another shitty extension to fix it
userChrome.css
undo close tab
omg literally hitler
view image
use an extension
FTP support
deprecated protocol
enjoy your CVEs sweaty
>enjoy your CVEs
Thank you, I will.
>sweaty
*sweetie, you ESL.
>*sweetie, you ESL.
lmao check out this newbie
>Most of those things can be done in FF if you enable resist fingerprinting and "strict" tracking protection, though it's more of a pain in the ass than anything.
Just use Strict without the Tor fingerprinting thing and it shouldn't interfere with anything.
can someone just make me user.js that only stops firefox making any background connections at all, including potentially usefull ones like tracking protection
>including potentially usefull ones like tracking protection
Pointless. """""""""""""""""""background""""""""""""""""""" connections like OCSP improve privacy and security. enjoy your shit "private" browser that serves you certs being exploited by glowBlack folk. ocsp exposes this
ocsp is good and i do use it on my main firefox instance, but this is for special purposes
and also ocsp isn't really background connection because it is done when you connect to website serving the certificate
all you have to do is disable pocket, all the 'Block dangerous and deceptive content' garbage, and telemetry.
This removes everything that can be done through user.js
https://pastebin.com/dc53qN57
Recently adding ads to the URL bar
https://www.techradar.com/news/ads-have-even-invaded-the-firefox-url-bar-now
EME DRM botnet downloaded by default
Pocket (proprietary service, ads, promoted content)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Pocket#History
>The integration was controversial, as users displayed concerns for the direct integration of a proprietary service into an open source application, and that it could not be completely disabled without editing advanced settings, unlike third-party extensions.
Automatically installing Mr. Robot adware through experimental extensions program
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mozilla-backpedals-after-mr-robot-firefox-misstep/
Promotes Cloudflare DNS MitM botnet
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/mozilla.html#cloudflare
Inferior fingerprinting protection and other leaks
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1372288
Breaking compatibility for old extensions
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2018/08/21/timeline-for-disabling-legacy-firefox-add-ons/
Breaking add-on certificate signing, disabling NoScript on Tor browser and threatening millions of users
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/05/05/firefox-extensions-are-broken-heres-what-to-do/
Breaking css UI customization features
Breaking user modifiable options (most recent compact mode)
https://www.ghacks.net/2021/04/07/mozilla-decides-to-hide-compact-mode-in-firefox-for-new-users-but-keep-it-for-existing-ones/
Removing about:config sorting and filtering, completely removed on Android
https://www.ghacks.net/2019/01/31/firefoxs-new-aboutconfig-page/
Poor security, even with Fission they are years behind (especially on Android)
https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html
Overall performance sucks and has not improved (loses in 90% of benchmarks)
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-95-Chrome-97
not a single valid reason, literally all either fixed or can be disabled by a normie.
use user.js moron
>muh meme.js
enjoy it while it lasts, troonyfox is going to get rid of it soon
I don't see any ads in brave, cope harder fireshitter
You said that for how many years now
literally don't care google shill. Browser actively trying to break adblockers = never using it no matter what
also disney plus native ads, sniff the red fox's bung hole u bigot, that way mozilla gets mo munneh. that way firefox gets more gooder and such.
I started using Netscape Navigator in the 90s and simply never left
Firefox is comfy, and it's got the huge bonus of being simple to move and backup profiles. Some tabs on my desktop have been there for 10 years, through reinstalls and upgrades
I refuse to surrender to google in their ongoing conquest of the web. Only Firefox and Safari stand against a web dominated by one web browser engine, which is controlled by google. Obviously, not going to use safari.
>muh monopoly
Jewgle can't do anything if you remove their botnet features and push back against ~~*them*~~ moron
Classic small minded thinking. This is about the future of the web, and whether a single entity will be able to dictate its future development. We already lost the DRM battle but it can always get worse.
>This is about the future of the web, and whether a single entity will be able to dictate its future development
Not my problem
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/1-client-hints/
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/8-first-party-sets/
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/7-googles-topics-api/
https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/3-web-bundles/
I just compared chromium and firefox because I don't want to install edge.
it's the only sane choice
>he believes the earth is flat
.
it has better front rendering
>>he believes the earth is flat
Works on My Machine
Don't use two adblockers, just use ublock origin
https://twitter.com/gorhill/status/1033706103782170625
Don't tell me what to do!
so you're fricked no matter what you choose?
yes. thats why i just settled on waterfox, it has a comfy theme
at what point did simple access to the web become such a fricking locked down mess? frick!
i miss the 90's.
Yeah unfortunately
I don't use gtk. So I use Crusta, some pajeet thing based on qtwebengine
I have not used Firefox since 2012. Every time I’ve tried to use it since it’s been so slow that it just is a waste of my time.
Me until there's a better alternative, and even then...
Waterfox.
>using Firefox after they broke all add-ons for a week because they fricked up their own security certificates
Me. Multi-Account containers is a superior solution to any chromium based browsers equivalent
Me. The only acceptable browser.
I use it because of better fonts contrast, also it can render wierd css sizes like "0.7 em" and "98 vw" unlike chrom which makes them look blurry. Oh and tabs are the best part about ff, how they hide when there is to many, smoothest and comfiest thing ever. Vivaldi tried to copy them, but failed.
i use Firefox because people tell me not to
I recently moved over.
>use firefox at home
>chrome at work to not look like an autist
>they work the same
All these years shitposting on IQfy for nothing.
it's time to move on.
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#librewolf
>LibreWolf is to Firefox what Ungoogled-Chromium is to Chrome. At least, so it seems, but it does not take a strict stance against unsolicited requests like Ug-C does (which is also my view - zero unsolicited requests is optimal). It includes the uBlock Origin addon by default (instead of the much superior uMatrix), and automatically updates the lists for it - as well as making a request to Mozilla's servers for their Tracking Protection. Otherwise, LibreWolf is not doing anything special, just changing some settings (which can also be accomplished by the many user.js files floating around). Their issue tracker is on gitlab which is Cloudflared and doesn't work in Pale Moon; this does not affect the browser directly, but shows the developers don't respect the users or care about their privacy. Packages for some distros, Windows and macOS exist - as well as an AppImage if your distro isn't on the list. Overall, this is the way to go if you want Firefox without (most of) the privacy violations. But - since they've only got five devs on the team - LibreWolf will always be dependent on Mozilla and unable to reverse any of their major shitty decisions, so watch out. Let me reiterate, this is nothing more than Firefox with a few settings changed and uBlock Origin added on top.
Me because of the containers feature which I use occasionally.
What then? Isn't Chrome much bigger?
What do you mean
It takes like 10 times longer to compile from sources.
i only have one computer which has regular internet connection
i have 50 computers
daily driver on win10 and debian xfce
I use FF developer edition
I just like the font rendering better, it just works well for me and I can make the fricker look and behave how I want it. Chromium based web browsers just don't offer this. The closest is Vivaldi and it's some janky stuff.
Is there a relatively simple way to run two ff versions on my machine with the same profile?
Currently I have ff 83 and a chromium for when sites don't support it.
You cant. preference behavior changes and database formats change from version to version so you'll destroy your profile trying to run it in two different versions. Best you can do is use firefox sync to keep two distinct profiles synchronized
>I have ff 83
imagine the CVEs...
image and text rendering looks better in furryfox
>2005-2011
Firefox
>2012-2014
Nightly (this was peak ricing era). Le bleeding edge hax0r XD.
>2015-
Firefox
I also have dillo installed because the lack of js is great for paywalled/nagscreen shit. Just paste in the link and it gives you the text you're looking for without loading elements. Highly recommend dillo as a "companion" browser.
you can disable js in ublock origin in firefox
i have it disabled by default, with a keybind to enable it when something doesn't work
dildo is a moronic dead meme, just use uBO and disable JS as needed
>dildo is a moronic dead meme, just use uBO and disable JS as needed
dildo doesn't even support https and it's abanonware, gee I wonder why a glowie would call someone a glowie for pointing that out, if terry were alive he'd run your ass over
Use Seamonkey
I only have internet since 2007, i used firefox for 1 year, because internet explorer was dogshit, then in 2008 chrome came out and i started using it as soon as it was in beta, still using it. I think most of the firefox users are the stuck in the windows 7 era ones, they might even use windows 7 in 2022 lol, also loonix users and trannies.
Me
There's simply no better browser right now
The alternatives are
1) Chrome/Chromium (used by like 70% of people making it the biggest target for exploits)
2) Browsers that are obscure and don't have as much support/add-ons
3) Stick a dildo up my ass and use Safari
4) Use Firefox, it's fast enough, well established, great extensions still, customizable, nobody cares to hack it anymore, etc.
Seriously, Firefox (and forks) is the only decent choice as far as I can tell. Or maybe Opera.
use edu discounts u poorgays
fully upgraded is only $1939
>apple m2 chip 8-core cpu, 10-core gpu, 16-core neural engine
>24gb ram
>1tb ssd
even without a discount its only $2100 max
frick wrong thread fml
Me...can't live without containers and tst.
Chrome is new Internet Explorer
Safari is the new IE6
Here, I will never move to chrome. The fact that mickeysoft moved to chrome just proves to me it's the wrong thing to do
ive been using firefox for 10 years and its still comfy.
r8 my setup
You're absolutely moronic
>HTTPS Everywhere
deprecated
>Privacy Badger
redundant with uBO, especially redundant with uMatrix
>Ghostery
holy frick, literally spyware and also redundant with uBO/uM
Also, using NoScript is redundant with uMatrix