Who was the greatest Italian to ever live?
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Who was the greatest Italian to ever live?
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Napoleon.
He was french
he had tuscany and genoa origin
He was born in Corsica which was french at the time. Therefore he was french
>Evidently he is not a Frenchman, nor a man of the eighteenth century; he belongs to another race and another epoch. We detect in him, at the first glance, the foreigner, the Italian, and something more, apart and beyond these, surpassing all similitude or analogy.-Italian he was through blood and lineage; first, through his paternal family, which is Tuscan, and which we can follow down from the twelfth century, at Florence, then at San Miniato; next at Sarzana, a small, backward, remote town in the state of Genoa, where, from father to son, it vegetates obscurely in provincial isolation, through a long line of notaries and municipal syndics. "My origin," says Napoleon himself, "has made all Italians regard me as a compatriot.... When the question of the marriage of my sister Pauline with Prince Borghése came up there was but one voice in Rome and in Tuscany, in that family, and with all its connections: 'It will do,' said all of them, 'it's amongst ourselves, it is one of our own families...'" When the Pope later hesitated about coming to Paris to crown Napoleon, "the Italian party in the Conclave prevailed against the Austrian party by supporting political arguments with the following slight tribute to national amour propre: 'After all we are imposing an Italian family on the barbarians, to govern them. We are revenging ourselves on the Gauls.'" Significant words, which will one day throw light upon the depths of the Italian nature, the eldest daughter of modern civilization, imbued with her right of primogeniture, persisting in her grudge against the transalpines, the rancorous inheritor of Roman pride and of antique patriotism.
>-Hippolyte Taine
>Dr. Henry: “The beauty of his delicate Italian features was of the highest kind; whilst the exquisite serenity of their expression was in the most striking contrast with the recollections of his great actions, impetuous character, and turbulent life”
Never heard of those names. Ergo I don't give a frick. Was he born in France,yes or no? If that's the case then he was french. Hell he even wanted to be buried in Paris,this was part of his last will.
cope
He was born in France,spoke french,fought for France,ruled over France (plus a large chunk of Europe) and wished to be buried in France.
That's on top of the fact that Italy didn't even exist at the time,therefore he couldn't have been Italian therefore you're wrong. I nominate Mussolini or maybe Matteo salvini or my Italian babe Elisa for the title of the greatest Italian ever. Ok,enough autism for today
>That's on top of the fact that Italy didn't even exist at the time
Is this butthurt gayuette for real?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Italy_(Holy_Roman_Empire)
BTW Corsica was part of the Kingdom of Italy for nearly 1000 years.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sovereign_monarchy
Meaningless
Everyone considers 1861 as the year when Italy was created
wrong again
>Italy is “only a geographical expression,” said Count Metternich, Europe's leading statesman in 1814.
yeah none of this is anything but conjecture
>his features are italian because I say so
lol ok
keep coping dude
tell me this homie doesn't look french, he looks exactly like my father (who's from Savoy).
Then you'll say something along the lines of "Savoy isn't french" but where would you draw the line at that point?
he was italian because he had italian origin
How do you know your father isn't Napoleon?
Being born in a stable does not make one a horse. This isn't just a case of genetic origins either. He was born and raised as Napoleone di Buonaparte. His native language was Corsican and Italian. He only began to learn French at 10 spoke it with an foreign accent his entire life. He loathed France and was a Corsican nationalist until the revolution happened. Napoleon was always the opportunist.
french had yet to be standardised in his time, and less than half of the country’s population would have learned proper french as their first language (if they did at all) this is not proof of his foreignness
were kellerman and the robspierres also not french? they too spoke with accents their entire lives
Black person they were from places with lang d'oïl you moronic french frick, are the Black folk and nafris born in your country french too?
He got a pudgier face, he looks Italian. Especially as he aged.
>my hamster was born in an acquarium
>he is therefore a fish
Cope
so all the Black folk and nafris born in france are french too
based
Italian blood is part of French blood in the South West. So your assertion doesn't hold.
Yes, but he was still the greatest Italian ever
That's how pathetyic Italy is
There are more great people among Italians than in any other nation.
t. not italian
Greatest Italian. Greatest Frenchman. Greatest Roman.
fpbp and based
He was middle eastern
Caesar/Galilei/Michelangelo/Napoleon
Leonardo da Vinci
Luigi Cadorna
It's not even a debate really.
He was from Nice FRANCE
I like that idea that LULZ officially recognizes napoleon as the greatest Italian and Garibaldi as the greatest Frenchman
No, the original argument was that Napoleon is "French" because Frogs conquered Corsica a year before his birth after 1000 year of Italian domination of the island.
Garibaldi was born in Nice before the city was passed to French control, so he was 100% Italian.
I know I just think it would be funny
Masons will burn in hell
He already is
this
/thread.
I bet you also think that St George was a Turk.
Is'nt born yet.
columbus
It's a tie between Leonardo and Galileo.
Caesar
Dante
Marconi
Leonardo
Jesus
>jesus
I agree he's the best Italian out there
me. and im only 3rd generation italian
Enzo Ferrari/Ferrucio Lamborghini/Horacio Pagani
Gaius Julius Caesar. But you knew this already OP, so why not just say you wanted a Caesar thread?
Giovanni Spaghetti
Marcus Aurelius