Why can't books cure suicidal depression? I thought literature was the most powerful human invention
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Why can't books cure suicidal depression? I thought literature was the most powerful human invention
It's literally just wood pulp
Because you are trying to fix emotional and social problems of your own life with the abstract works of people completely void of context.
You should rephrase this as “why can’t books cure suicidal depression for me personally.” In fact, the whole board, whenever a question is asked, should add the “for me personally” to the end of their posts to prevent moronation.
indeed
I distinctly remember people around here being 'cured from suicidal depression' by notes from the underground' by dostoievsky, and the 'myth of sysiphus' by camus
DAMN is that statue real? Greeks liked that amount of cake?
That's nothing
/fit/gays would say she's morbidly obese or something
Now we just need to get the message to the rest of the simps and we might stand a chance
thank you for illustrating why IQfy is the gayest board
IQfy loves fat prostitutes. The thing about fat women is they are merely pornographic, you can only have transcendental nonsexual aesthetic love for a skinny toned woman, like as if they were a piece of art.
you just have low expectations
I bench 100kg and broad shoulders. I can lust after whoever the frick I want.
Do IQfybros hate women also
everyone hates women, even women
But why
>100kg
homie ive seen you, you do 3 reps and they are fricking garbage at that
those dudes are homosexuals
it's an 18th century swedish sculpture
Oh.
Here's a statue accurate to the Greek one. This is a copy done by Romans, however.
worked for me
Any child can know, but the point is to understand. Something like that.
so how you come to from knowing to understanding?
Know what you know. Want to go a step beyond? Know how the knowledge applies.
Reading books teaches you this.
Gym can though. Makes you think of that Andrew Tate tweet.
Reading Cioran helped me when I wanted to kms.
how? if anything it seems that Cioran actively wants for you to kms
Cioran made me realize that by the time you consider suicide, it's already too late. You've suffered enough that you wish to die. The catastrophe has been and gone. You cannot save yourself from greater pain by suicide. Now the value of living is equal to that of dying.
"It is not worth the bother to have a nice day because you always have a nice day too late"
so the solution is just continue to suffer?
Yes suffering is the fire that anneals the soul
dont you eventually brittle after constant suffering?
NTA, but yes. The thing is, there isn't anything else to do.
just suffer and die. seems pointless.
You'll always suffer. There's no point in life except death in which you'll truly have no problems or worries. Regardless of that, it's all we have, so make the most of it.
>There's no point in life except death
You can also enjoy your work, you fool! How can you ignore that?
This isn't even remotely true, everyone thinks about suicide sometimes. It's how often you do it and how in depth/detailed the thoughts are
No anon, we don't, it's just your depressed ass.
What's it like?
Happiness? It's kind of like being empty actually but in a good way. Weightlessness with a tinge of excitement and overwhelming hope would be a great way to explain it.
Well funny, that. It depends on how you define a "thought".
If "your thoughts" are anything that runs through your head, you are pretty much right.
But if you define "your thoughts" as any self-dialogue you're intentively having, then no. You're wrong, and intrusive thoughts are not quite "your thoughts", because they are not intentful.
Honstly, there's probably a lot of crap that runs through your head, that is not exactly your dialogue or thought process. How else would you learn anything, if you can't take in foreign memes? It's not even a new concept.
um there's thoughts like words or abstract thoughts a hallucination could be a thought or even your vision or audio
You just named all the catagories without punctuation, yeah.
It's hard to define thought-crap but, it's been done before, yeah. Just keep going from there with it. I don't have research to back my observations up now, but I do have my logic, formed of life experience; Your brain can show you what you wouldn't want, precisely to comfirm within yourself, that you do not want it. I can't describe the whole thing too well between yourself and your mind, but I do know that specific...."feature"...of the imagination, well enough.
You know, the idea of a percieved distance between one's self and what's in your head is not uncommon in ideologies. In buddhism it's a core theme that you aren't even your thoughts, freud's whole body of work depends on you not doing all the work, and the bible has some pretty funky stuff on the relationship between you, what you do, and what's in your head, when you find it (proverbs 29:11, i thought of off of the top of my head).
so if you were being tortured horribly and someone offered to kill you you'd say no because you already had been getting tortured, argument just seems wrong at face value
What if you know things are gonna get worse?
They can help you get past suicidal aspect, but there is no cure to depression.
If anything it makes depression worse.
Dredd would demolish her
Depending on your condition you might want to focus more on healthy habits and brain health instead of "emotional" fixes to your depression.
Better Never to Have Been
Fire came before literature, stone tools before that though other animals also use tools, so I'd chalk it all up to fire because it allowed our brains to grow bigger and also to protect ourselves for the first time from predators in the night. Imagine living as an early hominid without fire in the night, your hearing is less keen, you have no night vision, you are sleepy, quite terrifying to think about.
Because you're reading the wrong books. ._.
My life is shit, over, and dreadfully miserable.
I get that by having been born in the modern world my loserdom is bliss compared to some 1000 BC neet, yet I still feel pissed off: I didn't ask to be born, and certainly not to incompetents whose marriage was already deteriorating. Why should I be punished for that?
I just wish that I'd had the 'usual' childhood 'run-up' into adulthood. If I fricked that up in some way, it wouldn't necessarily mean that I'm constitutionally worthless, but at least it would've been a failure on my part, by my own faults or weaknesses that screwed me, and not anyone elses'. But no: you're thrust out of the womb, have you knee caps smashed, then are told to run to the other end of the operating room, the berated condemned and left to rot for having failed to manage it!
I suppose I only think this way because I don't feel in myself so useless that I could never have accomplished anything, and that only circumstances conspired to my ruin. Yet what if it were the reverse? Born into a godly life, yet physically a cripple? Fundamentally life can screw you any which way it want to and the end is the same; b***hing and moaning about the particular manner she's gone about it is fruitless tittering. I suppose the one difference is that it FEELS like external conditions are more malleable, capable of being forced apart if only a little to permit some hope. If only a few things had been different in my life it wouldn't be at all bad, beyond the necessary shitness of life. But then, in the end it either happens or doesn't, and that which doesn't is as impossibly far from that which does as anything else, and I might as well say, rather than some minor defect in my upbringing that had catastrophic effects down the way, that some marvelous event, like winning the lottery or something, would've similarly fixed it: both not having happened were really as likely, not at all.
Wrote this for an IQfy thread that was trimmed before I could post it. I won't like my screaming into the void be voided.
Ur just whining at least give some events to read about or something
Reading books might help you orient yourself, but creative writing and other forms of expression will help you cope.
Here's one thing about trauma; It never goes away. You never get over it, you just learn to live with it. Same as the passing of a loved one. You can have a happy life and still come back to that dreadful emotion.
Plus, if your depression can truly be fixed with a book, maybe it wasn't as serious as you made it out to be.
is the therapy the only way to stop repeating (or reliving) trauma?
Therapy works with certain people, not with others.
Things that are ingrained in our psyche from childhood are near impossible to get out with therapy, and often it's because we sabotage ourselves from being helped.
You should still give it a shot. Just don't expect a magic formula that will make the thoughts go away.
They can though, it's done it for me before and I've been down that road many times. Are you just reading fiction or something?
Book therapy is a thing, but therapy alone can't cure depression. It requires a combination of therapy, actual lifestyle changes, and sometimes medication.
>talk to Dr. Goldsteinberg and take his poison pills so you stop noticing how fricked society is
No, I don't think I will.
So have a nice day then
No, because then the people who I hate win. Spite keeps me alive and thriving.