Why did everything look better in the past?
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Isn't that the just the world fair or whatever it's called lmao?
Yeah, it is. The Eiffel tower was created as part of the World Fair and was never meant to be a permanent structure. Crazy that the most recognized landmark in the whole world was created just for fun basically.
Everyone is fully clothed, now you would see more bare skin than clothing.
You have nostalgia for this time that is misplaced. Two things always come to mind in these threads, one is that they don't take photos of the slums that are in these old European cities. And the other is that it isn't practical to make buildings with facades like that, the maintenance of those things is crazy.
Pretty sure all these world's fair structures are designed to be temporary, they look like stone but its all wood and plaster.
The slums are infested by gypsies.
It didn't
proof? show me a picture of a city that has not degenerated
>degenerated
into the trash
Top is more expensive to build, to clean, and to maintain.
and it looked 1000x better and made for more pleasant cities. shame no one cares about that anymore
True. I wish there were some firms that still specialized in making those types of buildings.
if you don't realize that the cities you're thinking of were full of raw sewage, urchins, and horse shit idk what to tell you
Bullshit. The whole point of Haussmans work was to make the city clean and modern, and if anything he made the city more beautiful.
False, stone buildings only need to be cleaned every couple of years because of car traffic. Once cars turn electric it will become a much less frequent issue. In comparison concrete buildings from the post brick and mortar era now need entire new façades to isolate them, extensive work to prevent leakages and concrete rot etc.
The real reason is purely ideological and based on the rejection of ornementation of any kind, theorized by Loos and applied by the Bauhaus architects and Le Corbusier in particular. Man is seen as just a cog in the machine which needs nothing more to live a good life than access to leisure and clean life environment. Beauty is seen as purely subjective and therefore can be changed If the subjects are conditioned properly. Therefore older “beautiful” ornemental architecture is no longer required to enjoy one’s daily surroundings.
Problem is this works like communism : unless all capitalist states are destroyed communism can’t really work. In the same way, until all ornamented buildings are destroyed, they will always be instinctively viewed as more agreable to look at than non ornemental buildings, whatever their quality (because beauty is actually not truly subjective, something in ornementation appeals to the human mind on a subconscious level).
So anyway, with all our modern building techniques, ornementation could easily come back into vogue from a technical point of view and not cost much more than the non-ornemental non-vernacular architecture we have to contend with today, but the architectural industry is firmly ideologically controlled by the anti-ornamentalists, supported by the concrete industry (for obvious reasons) and the real estate development industry (Because they are so used to the current system).
Globalized homogenized
because architecture used to be about proper aesthetics, now it's about vomiting out bullshit
More like who can design the best 4th-dimensional Evangelion angel.
This is my city and I still can't believe they fricked the ROM up like this. Most people have gotten used to it but it's shocking how poorly executed it was.
You can't see it here but the main entrance is further down the left side of this picture. It's guarded by lion statues and leads into a vaulted rotunda with a gorgeous mosaic in the ceiling. And they blocked it off and had people use that tiny dark shitty little entranceway at the bottom of the picture to get in. Do you see the old guy in the baseball cap and the striped shirt walking on the sidewalk? Right behind him and slightly to the right, that's what they used as the main entrance.
Disgusting. They only recently opened the actual original entranceway up again.
I fricking hate the Crystal.
My sympathies. Living in Toronto must feel like hell
It's like in sci-fi manga (Eden, etc.) where the physical realm got attacked by some crystalized alien entities.
It's like that except when you look at it closely you notice that it's cheap and shitty looking
Whatever you do DON'T post these architect's last names. There has been a rise in antisemitism on this board lately.
at least this one doesn't look that bad
Because the white devil didn’t invent modern medicine yet, causing population booms that require commieblocks
Vacines and anti-biotics should have never been invented.
Because the top pic is the result of several centuries of building, while the bottom pic is the result of rebuilding in like 10 years after WWII.
Because time and money was spent on making things look pleasant. Now the main concern is how cheaply something can be done. Ornamentation is in the trash and I hate it.
That's a cope and you know it, monuments where money is no concern don't get ornamted either these days.
It's not a cope, I'm just talking about general architectural style in the western world. You're right that monuments aren't heavily ornamented either but the overall movement has been away from ornamentation towards standardized modular shit because it's cheap. And that informed how we design everything.
Cheapness wasn't invented yesterday
>monuments where money is no concern
no such thing. even if the state is paying for it, they're paying for it
because the average "person" doesnt care about reality
>Why did everything look better in the past?
>EVERYTHING WAS BETTER
>AESTHETIC
when even the slums in the past look better than what you're doing now, you know you're doing something wrong
Yeah this, you can't even drink the water in these cities 100 years ago.
ya no shit there were slums, but why can't the good parts still look good? why has everything been degraded into this post modern bland mess that makes every city feel like a sterile nightmare?
in europe because firstly it would have cost far too much to rebuild after ww2 rather than just try something new and cheaper, and secondly because both in the west and in the USSR, people were driven to look forwards not backwards
That second one is the most pertinent - both in the west and the east the desire was for novelty, futuristic design and new materials. That's why glass and concrete took over from stone and wood. It looks dated to us but it looked cutting edge back then (and had the advantage of being cheaper)
Looking backwards for inspiration is a new thing, because throughout most of history humans imagine the future to look and feel different and better. There's a creeping dread in most countries now that pushes people to hold on to old, traditional things rather than look to novelty.
>Looking backwards for inspiration is a new thing, because throughout most of history humans imagine the future to look and feel different and better
>What is neoclassicism?
>What is neogothicism?
Anon, "looking forward" is a post-WW2 thing. Every previous era has attempted to get back to some superior past, whether real or imagined.
Looking forward was rather a 19th and early to mid 20th century thing.
Pic related are is the gayus factory built in 1911.
Most of these old structures were actually torn down (if they were permanent at all) because they weren't seen as beautiful but incredibly tacky by mid 20th century standards, similarly to McMansion and many other mediocre pieces of modern architecture, plus all the usual problems that arise from aging buildings.
Dammit, forgot the pic.
Isn’t midtown Detroit pretty much fine and it's only the suburbs within city limits that are so awful?
>t. never been to Detroit
Guess what, you can Google earth and see for yourself how bad it is. It is really bad. Up there with Baltimore. And that's coming from a Cleveland-er.
Is Cleveland actually that horrible? I was under the impression that it was a bland place to live in but not a ghetto warzone.
i think it's an increasingly poor city. detroitifying if you will
>Isn’t midtown Detroit pretty much fine and it's only the suburbs within city limits that are so awful?
Honestly I don't know that much about Detroit, other than the main problems are de-industrialization and urban decay. But I bet its better than the early industrial places like turn of the century Europe and modern India.
i'd honestly rather live in parts of india than detroit. it's awful
I mean, you can't breathe the air in Delhi, you can't drink the water in the taps. Surely it cannot be that bad in Detroit.
>Every previous era has attempted to get back to some superior past, whether real or imagined.
This statement is so racked with hyperbole and overgeneralization that I don't know where to begin. You can't just make appeals to history without doing history, anon.
They looked back during the Renaissance and it worked well. Looking back isn't that novel and I think the return to it is logical given how disastrous attempts at establishing new culture have been
World War 2 saw the destruction of an ENORMOUS amount of European buildings (as well as artifacts, art, money, human life, and everything else that you could imagine). WW1 did as well, but the aircraft technology was a little more primitive in the 1910s compared to the 1940s. The destruction caused by WW2 was on a whole new level. WW1 was a turning point for war, in a greater sense. This was the first time in history where soldiers could FLY to your house and BOMB your shit. It must've been absolutely terrifying to the average citizen, who were more accustomed to the idea that battles were fought far away in a field. Planes and bombs changed the world forever. Sackings of towns and cities happened pre-WW1, but never to such a level where houses and normal people could be completely demolished by a few soldiers.
stop it anon, my dick can only get so hard
That’s a meme, only a small portion of London was destroyed and some countries left untouched like Switzerland still fell for the concrete cube meme.
Parisian architecure only started getting replaced by non-vernacular meme boxes from the late 60s onwards. It has nothing to do with bombing runs or money.
because once upon a time towns were designed to be walked in an enjoyed sinec you would spend most of your day there. now towns are designed to be driven to and interacted with for as little as possible before you drive back home
That's an American problem. Still insanity Americans keep building like that.
they'll never stop building this way. they don't know anything different. they think it's normal for cities to be deserted unlivable messes
Completely wrong, now we build like this.
I-i-is that B-Breezewood, PA? AHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME NWORDMAN
Unironically cars are one of the biggest contributing factors towards the breakdown of community and and a lot of modern social woes
old thing good
new thing bad
pointy tips good
straight lines bad
retvrn to trvdition
Amerishart version
Thats kind of true actually, even mcdonalds buildings just 30 years ago used to look way friendlier and like they were actually trying to make then ook decent. Now they look like commieblocks...
thats because McDonalds was for kids. the business was centered on the Fordist American family - epitomized by boomers
they even had a play center and happy meal
The Fordist family was destroyed in 1990s with the importation of shitskins and offshoring
Around 2000, since American's no longer have kids McDonald's rebranded to attract hip gay sterilized incels for the globohomosexual market
They got rid of Ronald McDonald and all the kids characters. Modern McDonalds is somewhere even more souless than it was in the 90s.
Just wish we could return to a more noble time like pic related
Is it practical to combine cheap, low-maintenance, and visually appealing by using modern materials?
Sure, just look at what art nouveau and deco were doing
>art nouveau
>low-maintenance
Oh man why don't we keep these crumbling old builds around, they are totally aesthetic and functional.
I don't know why you are complaning, that's a durable as frick building.
pfff they literally have to brace these buildings so they don't fall over on people.
imagine trying to roll that up in a wheelchair
>build a carboard american house instead, goyim, for a hefty price of course
you know I always thought living in a house with built in plumbing and electricity was a israeli conspiracy.
>plumbing and electricity can only be added in carboard cucksheds goyim
So why does my uncles aesthetic oldcity Catanian apartment have plumbing and electricity? It was comfy asf last time I stayed there
>build a large and modern structure, probably on a usable lot and with a garage too
Why do poors start to seethe when offered this?
>Some architect said form should never ever come before function
>another architect took that to mean buildings should be ugly and hard to navigate
>corporations realized they could now make buildings with the cheapest materials without having to understand how to use local space or match local culture
Basically modern art and modern capitalism teamed up to ugly up every city.
Built to last, but not for modern convinces.
Tragedy
Because the past bombed the shit out of itself
We’re in the dawn of cyberpunk.