>kids lost interest in programming
false, they swapped it out in schools for spreadsheets, word processing and *maybe* html.
I was there when they were forced to bring it back by way of visualbasic, but by then the damage had been done and now we have zoom calls instead of someone understanding how to setup voip software services.
I was so mad. The year before I went to high school they learned Java. When I got there they started teaching VB and by the time I left HS they went to html/javascript
You fricking degenerate, never heard of gorillas.bas?
Because it's absolutely awful. Yes, it was great for pedagogical use, but that doesn't keep projects alive in an ever-shifting landscape.
Because it was shit and slow. Just use C instead. Visual Basic was okay and a good successor and final successor. It was pretty comfy. The syntax was pretty shit though. Sadly its dead other then VBA.
This. QBasic was my first programming language and will always have a special place in my heart. But goddamn is it an ugly programming language. I remeber doing things like "GOTO 120" to jump to a line number lol.Then you would insert one line and it was all blowing up in your face. Good times but also awful times.
Because QBasic could not generate Win32 programs and no other Basic compilers were shipped with the OS. (Visual Basic did gain some traction, but required Visual Studio which was a huge barrier.) I would've never gotten into QBasic if it hadn't been shipped with DOS.
It didn't have to be QBasic. I'm just sad that they didn't include SOME form of Basic for modern computers. QB64 can port Qbasic apps to win64/Mac/Linux
They do. Windows scripting host is still part of windows today IIRC. You can write scripts with visual basic or jscript which is a janky form of javascript. I think this hasn't been updated in a long time though. Try creating a empty file in notepad with the extension .vbs and see what happens.
I think Windows gives you a trillion warnings when you try to execute it.
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Yeah but you still can execute it for your own stuff if you click past the warnings right? It's not the greatest system in the world of course but it is available as part of windows by default
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Negative. Windows runs it so happily it's commonly used in zip attachments to spread malware.
No shit. The basic b***h qbasic that shipped with ms-dos had no external linking so you had to write all your shit in a single .bas file and could not use any external dependencies
Because it was shit and slow. Just use C instead. Visual Basic was okay and a good successor and final successor. It was pretty comfy. The syntax was pretty shit though. Sadly its dead other then VBA.
There's definitely something ironic about the amount of shit currently used written in C because "you need the performance" when 286 desktops were running games written in BASIC.
kids lost interest in programming
computers stopped being something you operate and became a form of entertainment
>kids lost interest in programming
false, they swapped it out in schools for spreadsheets, word processing and *maybe* html.
I was there when they were forced to bring it back by way of visualbasic, but by then the damage had been done and now we have zoom calls instead of someone understanding how to setup voip software services.
I was so mad. The year before I went to high school they learned Java. When I got there they started teaching VB and by the time I left HS they went to html/javascript
Even back in the day the vast majority of kids who used computers used them for playing games and copy games off from their friends.
You fricking degenerate, never heard of gorillas.bas?
This. QBasic was my first programming language and will always have a special place in my heart. But goddamn is it an ugly programming language. I remeber doing things like "GOTO 120" to jump to a line number lol.Then you would insert one line and it was all blowing up in your face. Good times but also awful times.
>Then you would insert one line and it was all blowing up in your face.
That's why you number lines with increments of ten.
>gorillas.bas
Wheeew that takes me back
because it fricking sucks
Because QBasic could not generate Win32 programs and no other Basic compilers were shipped with the OS. (Visual Basic did gain some traction, but required Visual Studio which was a huge barrier.) I would've never gotten into QBasic if it hadn't been shipped with DOS.
It didn't have to be QBasic. I'm just sad that they didn't include SOME form of Basic for modern computers. QB64 can port Qbasic apps to win64/Mac/Linux
They do. Windows scripting host is still part of windows today IIRC. You can write scripts with visual basic or jscript which is a janky form of javascript. I think this hasn't been updated in a long time though. Try creating a empty file in notepad with the extension .vbs and see what happens.
I think Windows gives you a trillion warnings when you try to execute it.
Yeah but you still can execute it for your own stuff if you click past the warnings right? It's not the greatest system in the world of course but it is available as part of windows by default
Negative. Windows runs it so happily it's commonly used in zip attachments to spread malware.
https://blog.malwarebytes.com/cybercrime/2016/02/de-obfuscating-malicious-vbscripts/
They got Powershell right - double clicking a .ps1 just opens it in notepad. Shame they can't fix the past.
>mfw it used to literally be this easy
>kindly check the GOOD-MORNING-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs file pls sir
It's too Basic
It's still a good educational language for grade school students.
Its honestly a better head start on logic and algebra concepts than anything I could think of for youngins
Borland Turbo debugger was better
No shit. The basic b***h qbasic that shipped with ms-dos had no external linking so you had to write all your shit in a single .bas file and could not use any external dependencies
Because Common Lisp is a superior programming language
Shitty language that became pointless once computers became powerful enough to self-host compilers and development environments for better ones.
if you want to use Basic, use Basic bro. there are many interpreters and compilers out there.
We've strayed to far away from God.
Because it's absolutely awful. Yes, it was great for pedagogical use, but that doesn't keep projects alive in an ever-shifting landscape.
Because it was shit and slow. Just use C instead. Visual Basic was okay and a good successor and final successor. It was pretty comfy. The syntax was pretty shit though. Sadly its dead other then VBA.
>slow
it's not the lang's fault, you can always write a better interpreter
We didn't, Visual Basic is still used.
VB Net is overcomplicated and defeats the point of Basic.
https://www.thegamecreators.com/product/dark-basic-pro-open-source
Delphi/Lazarus exist.
Turbo Pascal was just better.
why this is no longer used?
Because we don't use DOS anymore, anon.
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There's definitely something ironic about the amount of shit currently used written in C because "you need the performance" when 286 desktops were running games written in BASIC.
I never did.
>TransEra