Why do linguists refuse to formally classify Albanian as an Illyrian language, despite the fact that it makes complete geographical sense and that the cognates between Illyrian and Romanian basically prove common influence?
Why do linguists refuse to formally classify Albanian as an Illyrian language, despite the fact that it makes complete geographical sense and that the...
We don't have enough surviving material to assert Albanian's relationship with Illyrian languages
And cognates are NOT how linguists determine genetic relationships between languages, using cognates to paint broad ideas is for internet schizos, amateurs, and nationalists
>HURRR WE JUS DUN’ HAVE THE EVIDENCE, TRUST THE SCIENCE GOY
But we do have evidence, and it makes more sense just to say that Albanian is Illyrian until proven otherwise.
No. That’s not how logic works.
Gove me one shard of evidence that Albanian is NOT Illyrian.
Frick off moron
I accept your resignation.
Skanderbeg would look at all the ottoman rapist shit skins in Albania and call it a brown shithole.
Albanians are the fairest people in the balkans besides Bosniaks.
Of course.. lmao
The base assumption is no relation, you need to give evidence for claimed relations; not vice versa.
The base assumption is relation imho, because of geographic location and cognates.
He's an Albanian
He doesn't know how logic work
It IS illyrian
I thought it was already known, it makes the most sense imo too
Inb4 "t. Albanian"
t. Romanian
albanians are not illyrians. They are thracian+imperial roman+slav
>illyrian
>thracian
same thing
Albanians are NOT Illyrians
Illyrians were described as tall by the Greeks and Romans bred their best soldiers in Illyria
Albos are short, yugoslavs are the tallest people on the planet
Tall back then meant 5’2”
This
Croats Bosnians and perhaps serbs are illyrians
Albanians are greco-thracians
Average male height in Kosovo today in 5 ft 9
Average male height in Albania today is 5 ft 8
Average male height in Serbia today is 5 ft 8.5
So what the frick are you talking about?
>Tall back then meant 5’2”
This. Modern height has no correlation with height in previous centuries. Take a look at the height difference between South Korea and North Korea who are the same people. A population's height can change massively over a few generations or even decades depending on their living and nutritional circumstances.
Everyone knows the Slavs migrated to the Balkans in general during the Early Middle Ages, many of them under the Avar Khaganate which had adopted Slavic as its lingua-franca. Other Slavs came later on and fought the Avars before settling in different areas.
Serbia in particular was home to Avars, Bulgars and Huns, and the Serbs are partly descended from them. The Illyrians had stopped being a distinct people in Serbia and Hungary even before the Slavic invasion.
Unlike Serbia, the coastal Western Balkans didn't have Avars, Bulgars and Huns either. The only Yugoslavs who may have *some* Illyrian in them are Bosniaks, Montenegrins and eastern Croats.
t.albanian
I'm not. I do hate Serbroaches though and how they see imaginary Turks everywhere despite being the ones actually descended from them going back to the Early Middle Ages and into the High Middle Ages.
When the Golden Horde expanded westward in the 1200s, many Cuman-Kipchaks from Ukraine fled as refugees to Hungary and Serbia. They even served in their militaries. Names like Boris and Ruslan are literally Turkic too BTW.
t.croat
It is Illyrian, but it can't be objectively proven, so the scientific statement is not made. Schizos would deny it anyway, they think linguistics is magic and ignore everything.
Linguistics is SO politicized. There literally is no definition between what constitutes a language vs a dialect. That itself should tell you everything.
It's entirely determined by governments and politicians. That why's there are mutually intelligible languages considered separate languages, while mutually unintelligible languages called "dialects" of the same language (e.g. Chinese and Italian "dialects").
As long as Serbia and China exists, you're not going to see that change.
Governments LARPing != standpoint of linguistics. It is not claimed that Chinese is a language, but a family- Sinitic.
In popular culture and pretty much most places, "Chinese" is considered a language, and gets used synonymously with all its "dialects".
Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien, Fujian, it's all just "Chinese" per most media usage.
Why is that Greek in front of the Albanian flag.
Because Serbia controls the UN and all the banks and businesses
>Because Serbia controls the UN and all the banks and businesses
Serbia themselves don't have any pull but they get the likes of Russia, China and even Greece to tote their line. That's why half the world doesn't recognize Kosovo, but the other half does. Muslim countries across Central Asia and Africa can't even recognize it because of Russia and China.
So you're saying Albanians are in line with the rest of the Southern Europeans?
No, I'm saying albanians are shitskins like turks, south italians and andalusians. No where near the rest of the Balkans
>No, I'm saying albanians are shitskins like turks, south italians and andalusians. No where near the rest of the Balkans
>No where near the rest of the Balkans
Ever seen most Romanians and Greeks?
How about a lot of Bulgarians and Macedonians?
Even a lot of Serbs and Montenegrin are dark.
You need to be consistent in your position. Don't single out Albanians as being dark when there's just as dark people across the Balkans, some of them more dark.
Because no one cares about lubanians. Simple as