Why is Germany an industrial power but Greece is not?
How could barbarians surpass Greeks economically?
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Why is Germany an industrial power but Greece is not? How could barbarians surpass Greeks economically?
Souf Europe missed the development of a bourgeoisie in the 11th-13th century and all the rest after that. Also Ottomemes.
You’re a fricking historically illiterate moron, Central and North Italy had the biggest bourgeoise / middle class in the Middle Ages, Catalans in Barcelona and Valencis also had a huge merchant class
Greece was its own thing and in its case most of the merchants were Italians or Catalans, and the local merchants were a minority
>You’re a fricking historically illiterate moron, Central and North Italy had the biggest bourgeoise / middle class in the Middle Ages, Catalans in Barcelona and Valencis also had a huge merchant class
And now guess where are the rich parts of Italy and Spain and where are the poor parts you angry boy?
Then don’t say South Europe
Say Greece and South Italy, but that map has little to do with that because Croatia which had cities like Ragusa with a powerful merchant marine are still shitholes today
They were a foreign, italian bourgeoisie, just like in eastern Europe it was german.
Zivo (Johannes) Kotrulj, very Italian name lol
Of course many locals aggregated to it, but there's no denying the core of the ragusian merchant class was italian.
According to What source?
The reason is gdp=tourism.
No European country besides England ever had real manufacturing and everyone else just outsourced low quality products from England. Greece had a car industry which is now dead.
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I have talked with a couple of Greeks on this very subject. First is a lack of things like raw Iron. Simple and easy to understand.
Second is the issue of Unions. If you make were the cost to make things inside the country is higher then the cost to make it ANYWHERE else in the med then it will be made anywhere else in the med. Ships? Lost out to the Italians. Tires? The Turks. I could go on.
Why is Özcan Kebap also called Stern, are Turkish israelites a thing in Lazistan?
they are white. they won't be in 50 years. but for now they are still white.
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In the case of Greece, Ottoman occupation did quite a number on it. As for Germany it was by all means a shithole prior to the Napoleonic wars. Most scientific and technical discoveries came from France and Britain (and to a lesser extant northern Italy). French Reform coupled with unification in 1871 led to the industrial powerhouse that is modern day Germany.
>it was by all means a shithole prior to the Napoleonic wars
Because the fr*nch and sw*des had fricked it up in the 30 years war. The medieval HRE was second only to north italy in development. And germany post-1871, finally having the same advantages of central government as britain or france, easily reached (britain) or surpassed (france) them in development.
Greece has the largest merchant navy in the world.