Why is Japan and Korea and south east Asia so heavily populated compared to Europe?
China and India I understand, but places like japan and Indonesia definitely make no sense for now high the population is
Japan in 1940 had a population of 73 million. The USA in comparison had a population of 132 million.
Indonesia’s current population is 132 million. More people than currently live in Russia
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I don't know
They had sex
Why though?
Because sex is good
life is good.
>Indonesia’s current population is 132 million.
You mean 273 million
Yeah that’s what I meant
Disgusting.
>Korea & Japan
Centralized States (at least previously) which led to more resources being mobilized. Including food production
>Southeast Asia
Rice.
Rice. Rice yields many times more than wheat. Paddy fields could be harvested every year and the land would not deteriorate. In short, food was plentiful and could support a large population. During the Edo period (1603-1868), Japan was overpopulated and often killing newborn babies. The shogunate even issued a ban on it several times.
SEA doesn't look overpopulated aside from Java and the Philippines though.
Rice is basically the ultimate grain for early agricultural techniques which meant that societies reliant on it were able to explode due to much better food security. It's a huge reason why rice-reliant South China managed to catch up to the more wheat-reliant (but still heavily utilizing rice) North China where Chinese civilization actually began so quickly. If you look at early population breakdowns of China by region the South was basically an unpopulated wasteland compared to the north, but as agriculture took off there the population just fricking exploded.
northern chink farmed millet though. Wheat was introduced to them later, likely by Indo-Europeans. Honestly I respect the southern chink way more for domesticating rice, a harder plant to domesticate
so why didn't euros use rice
rice cultivation requires temperatures above 20°C and precipitation, conditions that Europe hardly meets.
The post that you replied to here
literally has an explanation for that. Did you even read that post before making these replies? It's literally in the fricking post what the frick.
Yeah, rice is a super food for humanity. If wheat is grown continuously without fertilizer, it can ensure only about half the yield ratio of paddy rice. Paddy rice cultivation requires temperatures above 20°C and precipitation, conditions that Europe hardly meets. Before the modern era, Europe's cereal productivity was remarkably low.
In 13th and 14th century Europe, the average wheat yield was only 3 or 4 times the sowing rate; even in the early 19th century, it remained 5 or 6 times the sowing rate. In contrast, the average yield of Japanese paddy fields in the Edo period (1603-1867) was 30 to 40 times the sowing rate. This shows the unusually high productivity of paddy fields.
If rice is so efficient and amazing why didn’t Europeans bring it home to grow it when they started exploring and colonising?
Why aren’t there massive rice paddies in America?
rice require humid weather and lots of water and is harder to digest, and while they are more efficient in terms of yield, they aren't as nutritious as wheat. Asians evolved longer intestine to get more out of rice
>Why aren’t there massive rice paddies in America?
Because modern agricultural techniques don't necessitate rice paddies to grow rice. Rice is a historical staple in the American South and is still widely grown throughout the Mississippi river valley. Modern agricultural techniques have also made wheat and corn directly competitive with rice if not more productive in the proper conditions, conditions which encompass much more of the United States than conditions which make rice more productive.
>Why aren’t there massive rice paddies in America
There are massive rice paddies all over Latin America.
Only amerilards don't eat it. Brazil is one of the main producers.
I'm sure Brazilians eat the most rice in the world.
Rice is a really common side dish in the US, especially with white meat and seafood, and is seen as a staple in traditional Southern cooking. Chicken and rice is one of the most common dishes in the country. The US just doesn't grow that much because corn and wheat work better in its environment.
Among fricking Mexicans, maybe
>Among fricking Mexicans, maybe
No, African Americans eat plenty of rice too, so do Cajuns, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Caribbeans in general, etc.
Anon chicken and rice is like the most classic white American food imaginable, I don't know what to tell you.
pizzas better than chicken rice
Have you never had Cajun food?
Rice is the 3rd most common grain consumed in the US m8, lards eat loads of it.
>Europeans bring it home to grow it when they started exploring and colonising?
They did, just not in Europe. Rice reached Africa & Latin America thanks to Eurobenis Colonialism.Likewise led to population explosions there.
>Why aren’t there massive rice paddies in America?
There are.
>Rice reached Africa & Latin America thanks to Eurobenis Colonialism
Wrong. West Africans have their own species of rice that was domesticated for thousands of years called African rice, or Oryza glaberrima. African rice is actually the first rice crop to make it over to the USA, due to certain ethnic groups having skilled rice growing techniques. There's a cultivar of African rice called Carolina Gold that's still raised in the Southern USA now.
Not nearly enough rainfall in warm enough regions of Europe for paddy rice
Historically it’s largely only grown in northern Italy, with a bit in south/western Spain/Portugal and southern France
>Why aren’t there massive rice paddies in America?
There are? Hell America exports Rice to China
Rice is only really a "super food" in places suited to growing it, and it may actually be a detriment to a civilization due to its low protein. Commoners suffer more from malnutrition, less are suited to becoming skilled artisans and scholars, the civilization will struggle to develop early industries and new technology, to a small degree but it has to be significant nonetheless considering this is their main food source.
The 40 times sowing rate sounds impressive but what really matters is whether it generates a larger surplus. It doesn't matter if 1 out of 3 seeds are used for sowing if you can feed more people per acre and with less labor.
Rice has more calories per 100g than wheat. Protein, however, is higher in wheat. That is why onions is eaten in rice-eating regions. Basedbeans are high in protein and fat, which compensate for the shortcomings of rice. In fact, the best in both respects is maize, but since it is native to America, it has been slow to spread widely among humans.
Oh, I forgot that "S"beans was banned on this board.
Honestly I haven't seen the soibois meme posted at all in like a solid year, I wouldn't be surprised if the wordfilter got lifted soon.
maize is way more unhealthy as the staple crop
Onions?
Basedbeans?
Hello newbie
>Basedbeans
Lmao this wordfilter is still active?
Asians have more sexual hormones and are thus more horny.
They frick like rabbits
Japan was a bit unique, being a rice-centered society. Officials were paid in rice, and rice was treated almost like currency. An important duty of the emperor was to pray for a good rice harvest. Traditional Japanese food was almost entirely devoted to how delicious rice could be. There were so few side dishes that a number of people developed beriberi, which caused problems in the military.
India and China had some of the best farm land in the world in the early part of agriculture. They also grew rice, which was more calories per acre compared to wheat. More food meant more people living. More people living meant more people fricking. The heavy rice diet might also explain the height issues but idk about that.
Rice is extremely productive, epecially without modern agricultural methods. Your picture xovers the portion of the world where it is the primary staple crop.
Japan and South Korea are so densely populated because they grew large enough to start importing most of their food. Indonesia, meanwhile, is populous mainly because Java is such an exceptionally ideal place to grow grains in general and has always had a huge population. Indochina, meanwhile, has huge densities along it's rice-growing regions
Java’s population was not always so ridiculously large, it’s in large part thanks to the ... pax hollandica of colonialism
No Java has always been populous. Java was the capital and heartland of the Majapahit Empire/
Rice are Black person of grain
>Rice are Black person of grain
At this point you people are going to wind up calling yourselves "Black folk".
American detected
this is the Black person of replies
>be east asian peasant in pre modern era
>"what's for dinner today mom?"
>rice
>next day
>"what's for dinner today mom"
>rice
>next day
>rice
must have driven them completely mental
>be european peasant in the pre modern era
>what's for dinner today mom?
>bread and stew
>next day
>what's for dinner today mom?
>bread and stew
etc
>bread
lmao. Stay stupid Chang. We fricking eat potatoes, pasta and other shit more than bread
Potatoes are a relatively recent arrival in Europe.
aside from wheat, oats, barley, turnip, milk, cheese, eggs, cheap seafood like sardines, herring was something that yuro peasant survive on. Pretty shit by modern standard but certainly not as grim as asians. Hell the Nips have to adopt the shitty naval diet of the west because their own diet rice 24/7 was causing huge beriberi problems
Rice has plenty of thiamine. The problem was eating only white rice.
>Asians
Be specific moron.
East asians had wheat, barley, millet, meat, onions fermented foods. Central and northern asian had milk and yoghurt instead of onions.
India had even more variety
Rice, wheat (and flour), lentils, ,pulses, millet, salt, spices, fruits, curd, sugarcane and using oils in cookings.
Bariberi only became a problem when white rice became the norm. For most of asian history, peasants ate brown rice while white rice was a sign of status that elites who ate other food could afford to eat without the nutrient deficits. But then better technology for rice polishing came along and suddenly everyone wanted to live on white rice, except the peasants couldn't afford the side dishes.
>strawmans a post
>gets mad when replied with a strawmanned post
Wow moron.
Its called a "staple food"
They put stuff on the rice
Completely forgot that almost half of East Asians' staple food is wheat, noodles, steamed buns, etc.
That applies to all Asians, north tend to be wheat based, south tend to be rice based, but generally people eat both
Alot of old Civilizations in the area.
rice produces like 20 times more calorie given the same area of cultivation than wheat
Euros emigrated all over the world
The men sexually dominate (rape) the women, unlike Europe and other western countries with their chivalrous culture
Rather the opposite
Glad Europeans didn't fell for the rice meme and become manlet twinks.
The short answer is rice