That's fair. I thought the first 3 sections went by very quickly however. And the part about the murders isn't a slog or anything people just parrot that.
yeah.
I was afraid about the crimes chapter being a slog but there are several very entertaining side characters/stories.
The thing is everytime I was really into it the chapter ended and then it's a completely different book lmao
Because I asked someone on here and they said >id recommend you start with the savage detectives and then graduate to 2666
after that you can read woes of a true policeman and amuleto which are set roughly in the same universe as the big boys
my favorite of his shorter novels is una novelita lumpen, but i dont think it has been translated into english yet
by night in chile is also very good
avoid the spirit of science fiction; its just a weaker version of the savage detectives
his other novels i havent read
short stories are all good, especially telephone calls
I dont like his poetry all that much
between parentheses (essay collection) is interesting, but if you attentively read 2666 it doesnt all that much new info
So I would have to read savage detectives first, before. Basically it seems like I should rather than just read 2666 I should rather that then read all his works library. But I cant atart that now because I'm going going going going to Dostoevsky's works, and also just started the greek meme and with tolken's children of the hurin
Also idk wby but my screen scr is fetting all fuzy? ? Acn wh anh belp if son nnnnnnnnnnn 4cb captb noy arqunnnnnnnsnsssssssss lol
only morons get hung up on "you have to read X to read Y".
your post reveals you are in fact a moron.
Can you please describe Infinite Jest to me? Genuinely, I haven't read it, and have been listening to a number of DFW's interviews recently -- seems like a very thoughtful, intelligent guy -- but don't know if I should bother, given the rap it seems to get on here. Did you enjoy it?
it takes place in a tennis academy, and a recovery facility for drug addicts, using both to talk about drugs, entertaniment, addiction, crimes, depression, the search for happiness through several people.
it takes a bit - 300 pages - to really get going but it is entertaining and it has merit. only nuIQfy started hating on it for no reason other than being contrarians.
pay them no mind, people that trashtalk IJ haven't actually read it, just like 99% of people that talk down ulysses or gravity's rainbow haven't read it either.
>Nazi Literature in the Americas
Recs?
'Nazi Literature in the Americas' is the name of the book by Bolaño.
That's fair. I thought the first 3 sections went by very quickly however. And the part about the murders isn't a slog or anything people just parrot that.
Because I asked someone on here and they said >id recommend you start with the savage detectives and then graduate to 2666
after that you can read woes of a true policeman and amuleto which are set roughly in the same universe as the big boys
my favorite of his shorter novels is una novelita lumpen, but i dont think it has been translated into english yet
by night in chile is also very good
avoid the spirit of science fiction; its just a weaker version of the savage detectives
his other novels i havent read
short stories are all good, especially telephone calls
I dont like his poetry all that much
between parentheses (essay collection) is interesting, but if you attentively read 2666 it doesnt all that much new info
So I would have to read savage detectives first, before. Basically it seems like I should rather than just read 2666 I should rather that then read all his works library. But I cant atart that now because I'm going going going going to Dostoevsky's works, and also just started the greek meme and with tolken's children of the hurin
Also idk wby but my screen scr is fetting all fuzy? ? Acn wh anh belp if son nnnnnnnnnnn 4cb captb noy arqunnnnnnnsnsssssssss lol
Ok but WTF is this book even about? And don't make excuses like, "oh it's too broad and deep to say, and the story is too complex". Idiots tried to do that with infinite jest as well and I was quite upset when I read it and realized it was pretty damn describable.
Can you please describe Infinite Jest to me? Genuinely, I haven't read it, and have been listening to a number of DFW's interviews recently -- seems like a very thoughtful, intelligent guy -- but don't know if I should bother, given the rap it seems to get on here. Did you enjoy it?
fictionalized version of real mexican city fricked by murders, group of academics (and journalist) search for reclusive master author with a tinge of heart of darkness...end culminates with the other's last throws of writing since he was dying...iirc the book was meant to be split in 5 parts to encourage more sales but they fused it together as a semblance to be his last work
I've read the first two or three books, a long time ago, but stopped during the long, long serial murder section where the detective is the main character. It's probably tolerable as a series, but as a single work, it is incredibly repetitive. Nazi Literature in the Americas is much better. But don't worry. We'll probably still be getting newly "discovered" Bolano books into the 2050s, if the not the 2600s.
>the deaths got repetitive tbh
that's the point, the procedural nature of turning deaths into statistics and operational things especially in crime entertainment shows how we perceive these things, it's like the sheer volume of deaths invalidate the humanity in our minds...wonder why that is...it's one thing to say 1000 people die, but to catalog each one, I'm not sure I've seen that in other works
I still can't bring myself to actually read this guy
Dude is weird, unironic gamer
When I was in uni he'd just randomly walk into the main hall every other day or so, stare at this one statue for like 10 minutes and then leave
A friend who is at the same uni now told me she'was in class with his son, who dropped out now and kept trying to impress everyone with his "poetry" (it was illegible trash)
I can't read Spanish.
As Faulkner once said, "Spanish is for Black folk."
Faulkner didn't say that + there are more English speaking Black folk.
there are white english speaking Black folk.
filtrado
I have like 50 pages left :3
200 pages left here.
yeah.
I was afraid about the crimes chapter being a slog but there are several very entertaining side characters/stories.
The thing is everytime I was really into it the chapter ended and then it's a completely different book lmao
only morons get hung up on "you have to read X to read Y".
your post reveals you are in fact a moron.
it takes place in a tennis academy, and a recovery facility for drug addicts, using both to talk about drugs, entertaniment, addiction, crimes, depression, the search for happiness through several people.
it takes a bit - 300 pages - to really get going but it is entertaining and it has merit. only nuIQfy started hating on it for no reason other than being contrarians.
pay them no mind, people that trashtalk IJ haven't actually read it, just like 99% of people that talk down ulysses or gravity's rainbow haven't read it either.
'Nazi Literature in the Americas' is the name of the book by Bolaño.
I read it, it wasn't worth finishing. I still can't figure out why Bolano even bothered to write it.
I mean he makes it clear on the text
Why didn't you like it?
it's long and i've heard you really feel the length. after finishing IJ last year, i'm not gonna bother with anything over 400 pages for a few years
That's fair. I thought the first 3 sections went by very quickly however. And the part about the murders isn't a slog or anything people just parrot that.
I'm not used to reading long novels ans I thought it was a really quick read, even the maligned Crimes part
Because I asked someone on here and they said
>id recommend you start with the savage detectives and then graduate to 2666
after that you can read woes of a true policeman and amuleto which are set roughly in the same universe as the big boys
my favorite of his shorter novels is una novelita lumpen, but i dont think it has been translated into english yet
by night in chile is also very good
avoid the spirit of science fiction; its just a weaker version of the savage detectives
his other novels i havent read
short stories are all good, especially telephone calls
I dont like his poetry all that much
between parentheses (essay collection) is interesting, but if you attentively read 2666 it doesnt all that much new info
So I would have to read savage detectives first, before. Basically it seems like I should rather than just read 2666 I should rather that then read all his works library. But I cant atart that now because I'm going going going going to Dostoevsky's works, and also just started the greek meme and with tolken's children of the hurin
Also idk wby but my screen scr is fetting all fuzy? ? Acn wh anh belp if son nnnnnnnnnnn 4cb captb noy arqunnnnnnnsnsssssssss lol
Ok but WTF is this book even about? And don't make excuses like, "oh it's too broad and deep to say, and the story is too complex". Idiots tried to do that with infinite jest as well and I was quite upset when I read it and realized it was pretty damn describable.
>he's read infinite jest
KWAB
At least I read.
the futility of truly and totally understanding art or an artist. The banality and bluntness of murder or violence. paranoia, confusion, arrogance.
Mexico.
POV: You're in Mexico, the novel.
It's well known that the entire part about the crimes is basically a critique of Mexican law enforcement.
Can you please describe Infinite Jest to me? Genuinely, I haven't read it, and have been listening to a number of DFW's interviews recently -- seems like a very thoughtful, intelligent guy -- but don't know if I should bother, given the rap it seems to get on here. Did you enjoy it?
Drugs are bad, m'kay?
read it for yourself, knowing about dfw life helps too the book is based on a lot of his background
fictionalized version of real mexican city fricked by murders, group of academics (and journalist) search for reclusive master author with a tinge of heart of darkness...end culminates with the other's last throws of writing since he was dying...iirc the book was meant to be split in 5 parts to encourage more sales but they fused it together as a semblance to be his last work
Because it was published in 1999
What's your take on how some people say Bolano lied about the Chile thing?
He lied. No one remembers him being in Chile during the dictatorship. It’s a story he made up because he felt guilty.
Kinda awkward then how he wrote these essays about his Chile experience and being nearly assassinated
Because I am reading the real 21st century classic
This came out like a week ago, buddy. By that logic the shit I just took in the morning is also a classic.
>classic means old
Idiot.
Classic means that it passed the test of time. The Passenger is just flavor of the month so far.
Idiot npc
Not an argument. Cope.
listen, im not going to stop shilling this book. stop letting the threads dies before 20 replies
unfinished garbage
It actually is finished, just partially unrevised.
The ending scene really felt like it needed to be rewritten. Didn't really ring true to me.
Why garbage? Curious if you're being contrarian or you genuinely disliked it.
sometimes i just want the ~~*you*~~
I've read the first two or three books, a long time ago, but stopped during the long, long serial murder section where the detective is the main character. It's probably tolerable as a series, but as a single work, it is incredibly repetitive. Nazi Literature in the Americas is much better. But don't worry. We'll probably still be getting newly "discovered" Bolano books into the 2050s, if the not the 2600s.
>Nazi Literature in the Americas
Recs?
>the deaths got repetitive tbh
that's the point, the procedural nature of turning deaths into statistics and operational things especially in crime entertainment shows how we perceive these things, it's like the sheer volume of deaths invalidate the humanity in our minds...wonder why that is...it's one thing to say 1000 people die, but to catalog each one, I'm not sure I've seen that in other works
I started reading it but got bored. Same with Savage Detectives. I'm not a Bolano man.
this book sucks ass, I hate IQfy's obsession with mediocre Latin-American authors. This, Borges, MArquez.
Borges is not mediocre, literaturelet.
Typical npc deflection.
Borges surrealism is soulful, what are you talking about?
Only read Savage Detectives but is is awful.
Austerlitz is the 21st century classic
Garbage. Apes Murnane hard.
>Murnane
>Australian
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I still can't bring myself to actually read this guy
Dude is weird, unironic gamer
When I was in uni he'd just randomly walk into the main hall every other day or so, stare at this one statue for like 10 minutes and then leave
A friend who is at the same uni now told me she'was in class with his son, who dropped out now and kept trying to impress everyone with his "poetry" (it was illegible trash)
can confirm, dad works at nintendo
But I already have read it
So what is your blurb?
Solenoid, The Road, 2666 are the only 21st century classics as far as im concerned
inb4 random homie from nowhere with 12 book sales gets mentioned.
>the road
only because of the setting? his other books are better imo
for me it's septology
i do like 2666 though
I thought about ordering this but I’m also put off by seeing it shilled by certain reviewers.
>almost 25 years into this century
>essentially no noteworthy novels have been published
It's so fricking over bros
Read more my friend
Post recs or silence thyself
write it