>$37 for ONE
>need 4 or 5 them to make the most sense for a case
>nearly $200 for fricking case fans when I could probably get 10 normal fans
please tell me noctua fans are a meme
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I got memed into buying one. I am sentimentally attached to how ugly they are and clash with the rest of my machine.
do they actually work or are they a meme
Yes.
>do they work
Its a fan. It blows air.
ok smartass
They move a lot of air for how quiet they are. They are pricey but outperform most other air coolers and even aome AIOs
They work, but there is no reason why you wouldn't just buy bigger fans that are cheaper and run them at a lower RPM...
all fans work these are simply brown
Just get the Thermaltake knock offs that are 5 for $30 and perform within 2% of the noctuas
they are quiet and definitely the best but you get 95% of the way there with some cheap arctic p12s
they make less noise because they have less airflow than the competition. everything they say is just marketing snakeoil. you can't have quiet and high airflow
>you can't have quiet and high airflow
False. Noise is caused by vibration of the fans not air flow. Poorly manufactured fans will be louder than well manufactured ones that have the same air flow. The two are not mutually exclusive.
they cost 3 times as much as a super cheap Arctic P12 PST CO but are only 5% better at max (if at all. In Igors test the P12 had MORE STATIC PRESSURE than the Noctua one). So choose your poison
They're extremely quiet and yes they work.
I have five in the computer next to me. Can't remember how much it cost, but it wasn't enough for me to worry about it.
I enjoy the lack of noise and good performance from the cpu cooler.
They are unironically the best fans on the market
They're good fans certainly, and they make some unique ones plus a wide assortment thereof, but I don't know they're THE best in all cases. For instance, they still too my knowledge don't have a mag-lev bearing fan. For some of their less unique/more common fan, the price may not be worth it compared to others perhaps. Noctua is great overall but they're not perfect
what's so special about this mag lev thing you keep talking about?
It LEVITATES on MAGNETS, man, and that's fricking COOL
Maglev bearing are, if well made, durable, quiet, and high performance vs sleeve or fluid bearing types. Its only because of patent shenanigans that they're not more widespread, but they tend to be superior if properly designed.
So you would recommend Corsair ML over Noctua fans?
If you're fine with a fan that's twice as loud with worse thermals then yes
It would depend on the particular model and what features the user cared about. Even Corsair has 2 later iterations of the ML's beyond the original design (original ML type both opaque and lighted, ML Pro new design for the bearing and some other stuff, and I think the newest one ML Elite is an overhaul with new blades), so making a proper comparison is important. Putting aside aesthetics and the like, the size, airflow, static pressure, volume (and the type of noise - different kinds of fan designs and bearings sound different, so many may prefer a "louder" lower pitch wooshing noise than a "quieter" higher pitch whine or turbulent air etc) all may mean one over the other. There are also maglev fans from other companies besides Corsair (ie Thermaltake has some but they were pretty meh, there are also some german and I believe one japanese niche that use them but those are much smaller boutique brands).
I assume you're talking about the chart above? You do know those aren't the only Corsair MLs right? Looks like the older original models, but even that aside it doesn't seem very good evidence that all Noctua are better than all ML's in every situation
It's almost same result with the newer models.
Is it at 100% speed or is it noise normalized? Those fans won't all be at the same dbA if you put all of them on 100%.
It's noise normalized. You can see the fan rpms on the bars. Either way the bearing is only part of the equation. T30s and NF-A12s are made of superior materials and have tighter clearances on the blades, giving them an edge in thermals.
>It's noise normalized.
It says "100% speed" at the top tho.
seems like he forgot to change it from the previous test
Maglevs take too much power
Hello corsair shill
>Fractal define 7
How'd you get the 3090 ti to not overheat in that case? I got the solid panel installed instead under the impression that vented top lost too much air pressure. Tried it with the +3 senpaitachi on top w/ vented but still no good. Are those two feeders under the gpu mandatory? I'd get up to 90s on gpu, only way to keep temps lower was to have the side panel taken off
>I'd get up to 90s on gpu
you understand that this is totally normal and in no way a danger to it, right
90C on the core means 5-10c higher on the hotspot and depending on what you are doing it can be almost 15C higher on the memory modules.
Sure, you can keep it at 90, just don't expect to last longer than the warranty.
..so just rma it since it's in warranty, if that's your problem.
>mailing in your card for weeks and waiting on getting a new one back because you are too much of a moron to cool your case.
The state of IQfy.
it's literally not an issue, man. typical operating ranges for 3090 is 0-95c. you'd have to be hitting 120c for anything to even get damaged. but my point was that if something DID get damaged within warranty, for whatever reason like you said, you would be within your right to have it replaced for literally free. it's also a 3 year warranty so you're likely covered for the entire duration of you owning it, because we all know that if you were fricking dumb enough to spend that much on a 10-20% performance gain on games you don't even fricking have any interest in playing, you'll likely be doing the same stupid fricking thing in 3 years time.
>90c normal
wtf... mine barely goes above 60
i mean mine too, i think i hit 70c at most with my 3080 VERTICALLY MOUNTED in my define 7.
Red=hot air
Blue=cold air
Black=fan direction
where da ps at?
Power supply sucks in air from the bottom through an airfilter
Top exhaust, ergo 1/3 of the top is a waste.
at that point it literally does not matter
Cool air coming from the front is going to be sucked out without ever reaching the heat-sink with that setup.
exactly
>top in
nice way to get all the dust into the case
Collecting noctua fans is my new addiction
nice job with the top exhaust fan closer to the front pulling away the cooler air right out of the case
Doesn’t matter, temps are the exact same with or without it
I like how you felt the need to say that about my setup but not the other guy with the exact same “problem” btw
the difference isn't huge compared to adding a fan in other places but temps are still lowered with it there
Nice cable management bro, told you it wouldn't die
>take side of PC case
>get a $20 10" box fan
>put beside case
This and only this, nobody will tell us how to cool our pc, ain't paying 37$ for small plastic spindle with copper too much?
Great for radiators or replacing GPU fans. not worth it for anything else.
Fans are all about noise profile and Noctuas are the best around for that. I tried some of the cheap Arctic meme fans that people shill on here and they make a horrible humming noise at certain RPMs. Every Noctua I've had has been perfectly smooth throughout the entire range with no motor noise.
Accept no imitations.
>at certain RPM
So don't use them at that RPM? It takes 5 minutes to map the rpm range that Arctic's fans resonate at and just avoid it when making your case fan speed profile.
What if they resonate at 800RPM and at 1000RPM they start making an annoying motor noise? At <700RPM they're fricking useless.
run at 900 or 1100?
>Cheapskate moron doesn't understand the concept of a fan curve
>Just juggle around the design defects of a crappy product bro
If the motor is noisy at 1000rpm, it will be even louder at 1100rpm
Not how resonances or motor whine works, but sure.
I never said it was motor whine, but keep the mental gymnastics.
>cheapskate
So if I want slightly quieter fans I should pay 5 times more? What a moron.
Nice strawman you got there
>Worse product that is 1/5th of the price and can easily be tweaked to avoid its flaws
>hurr durr you are cheapskate unless you buy muh special 30$ fans.
I've played that game with a graphics card before, and aside from the fact that they still pass that RPM range and make noise as they do, the problem occurs right where I'd want them to be. Any slower and they move frick all air, any faster and they're just too loud in general. I'd rather just buy decent fans in the first place and use them how I please. The four NF-A14s I use as case fans in my main system were purchased in 2014, have served in multiple builds and are as quiet as the day I bought them.
I run my P14s from 2019 at 1000 RPM when gaming on a souped up 3080Ti. GPU fans are louder than the case fans, so why does it matter?
Yep. All these meme charts and graphs about noise levels but they don't show the full picture. Some fans at certain RPM's will indeed whine, hum etc. but the general sound of the fan is a much higher frequency as well.
Noctua fans have a pleasing sound.
Did we ever get to see her feet?
have fun paying 2x as much just so everyone can hear your GPU coils whine
>Fans are all about noise
Fans are about airflow and colling you mentally ill ricer
Who ever said they weren't a meme? SSO2 is almost an insult to it. Get some Maglev fans of basically any brand and buy some beer from the difference.
>please tell me noctua fans are a meme
they aren't
pay up
enjoy the poop brown
>Fans are all about noise profile
get p12s or p14s if you're poor. Pretty much just as good
Get T30s if you're not poor and have the extra 5mm clearance.
Best fans ever made, been using them for 15 years. Performance, Noise and longevity worth every cent.
the new models are now made in china just like everything else
this is a noctua thread now
holy turbulence
>those static pressure fans with no rad
It started as a Noctua thread, moron.
Noctua fans are like pokemon cards
>that sag
I can hear the poor motherboard going KILL MEEEE
The pci-e slot will snap off in a few months give or take.
what CPU cooler is that?
Why can't some chinks just copy the fan blade design?
It will cost the same to manufacture.
the blade design is only part of it, the expensive bearings probably cost more than all the other plastic in the thing combined.
The cost of premium products like this are mostly tied up in RnD, testing and warranties/service.
Noctua are the chinks. Nidec are the true OGs. I've had PWM modded Gentle Typhoons still going strong after 10 years.
>Gentle Typhoons still going strong after 10 years.
Not exactly a hard ask for a fan to last 10 years.
Tell that to any of the sleeve bearing Scythe fans I had before them that used to be shilled endlessly pre 2010s. I should say 15 years actually since I still have some from my q6600 build that are still Scythe rebranded ones. This was before Noctua stole the design with the NF-A12s
Fans must have improved greatly in the early 2010s
A pair of these has been knocking around since 2011 in every single one of my PCs, only now is it taking a break as I don't have a place for it.
Honestly I can't say I've had a fan fail except for small sub-80mm ones and pre-incuded case fans. With failure being when they get noisy.
Cooler Master fans are fricking shit. I've had several of them over the years, and each one started clicking after a few years of use. Turns out it's a common problem with these fans.
I have 7 cooler master fans
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM CLICKS
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
AND THE ONES THAT DONT CLICK FRICKING DIED
COOLER MASTER FANS ARE BEYOND SHIT
Thermalright, Thermaltake and Cooler Master already did.
No, thanks I want my PC WRRRRRRRRRRR
$37 is for the industrial PPC fan (read: IP67 rated). Regular fans are under $30.
And no, they aren't
God they're so fricking ugly.
Actually they might be fine except they clash with every single other piece of PC hardware that exists.
Also they're a good example of something that actually is "the best" but where you can buy something that is like half the price and imperceptibly worse.
I don't get why this whole "ugly"meme is still going.
You can get basicly every single one of their fans and coolers and completely black with a set of different colored pads and soon they will even make white fans.
They literally last a lifetime. I have 10 year old noctua case fans that have been run on molex connectors at full speed nearly continuously for that entire time. They are still silent and perfect.
Fan bearings going bad is a pretty real issue with cheap shit. You only ever have to buy one set once, and just keep them and use them in all cases and cooling solutions from then on.
they aren't premium. their biggest thing is the abysmal rpm that keeps them quiet and causes less wear. even at their highest setting you can barely feel the air moving but a tiny delta fan spinning at 6k rpm is something you absolutely can feel even many meters away from the case
>no rgb
no buy
noctua fans are a huge meme
They are indeed overpriced garbage. I just set these to 600RPM and I never hear them. Computer is on 24/7.
You get what you pay for. I had the 120mm versions and they all had an annoying pulsating humming noise around 500rpm. Swapped them for scythes and they were dead silent.
put them at 550 rpm then
he can't because he's moronic
arctic fans are good value, but they tend to shit out after about 1-2 years of 24/7 use. still would rather buy a box of 5 for the price of 1.5 noctua fans tho
I just bought 2 of these and a noctua chromax blsck cpu cooler because I think most of the noise was coming from my cpucooler spinning at 100% @ 70c. Bought a really shitty case and I'm too stubborn to return it so I might cut some holes in the front plastic shield and put some mesh filter shit in. I have 2 antec fans from over a decade ago that I put olive oil in because they were seized up, they spin good but I dont feel too much air blowing from them.
most silent with be quiet brand
too sad other components makes this shitty noise despite the fans being turned off.
Any opinions on the industrial 3000 pwm? I use them for the front intake, doing vr so noise isn't an issue for me.
>why buy 5 Austrian engineered Noctua fans with lifetime warranty for 200 bucks, when I can get 5 zoom zoom fans with muh RGB autism troony lightning made in China for the same price?
Yeah I wonder why
Noctua is made in china too, what the frick are you talking about? Or are you trying to imply that only Noctua fans are engineered outside of China?
>Austrian engineered
Holy frick, learn to read you homosexual.
And made in China doesn't equal made in China. China produces the quality for which you pay.
So why exactly don't you understand that there are 40 bucks made in China fans and 4 bucks made in China fans?
are nu-noctuas made somewhere other than china? mine have made in china on them lmao
taiwan
they are if you don't care about maximum reliability
buy arctic p12/14 argb fans instead, they cost a lot less and they have eloop design but only on argb/rgb versions so there's no moronic howling and humming like on regular p12/14
you can leave rgb cable spaghetti disconnected if you don't like that shit
Noctards are a level of autist-homosexualry beyond even Arch and Apple users.
buy delta server/oem fans
Might as well mount some wings to your case as well.
adjust fan curve accordingly
>moron doesn't understand basic electronics
now that is a real fan. none of the gamer crap you can buy from your local computer store can compete with these
120db fans
No thanks
You all know they have the chromax line now right? They use the poop brown because it's more durable.
>They use the poop brown because it's more durable
source?
>Please tell me if ~~*brand*~~ basic shit is a meme
They are perfect, if you are poor just buy a 5 pack of arctic fans, they are decent.
I bought 4 of them 10 years ago and they are still going but also are whisper quiet.
In that time I likely would've had to replace the chink ones at least once at minimum, perhaps even put up with loud and noisy fans.
They were $21 AUD each and worth every dollar.
>$37 for ONE
>need 4 or 5 them to make the most sense for a case
>nearly $200 for fricking case fans when I could probably get 10 normal fans
Yeah, so what?
It's like buying apple shit, both brands have the same type on consoomers hooked.
Keep coping sweaty. I've never owned any apple products. I actually care about warranty and good engineering.
except noctua makes actual good products. a better comparison to apple would be chink rgb shit
>It's expensive it must be good
>yes I don't do any research because expensive=good
>why compare when it's premium priced
I really hate what happened in the tech industry, years ago it was all about getting the best value for the best price, now it's premium priced and some of you swallow it without any questions
>Strawman
Whatever helps you cope. The same case was filled with Arctic fans when I got it. I thought I'd get a "good value" since I already the AIO fans, so I got another 5 pack. They vibrated like shit and we're much more noisy.
Now you can't hear it at idle, even if you put your ear next to it. The loudest part at full load is the GPU, but even then it's quieter than a console. You can easily play games with open headphones and not notice it.
400€ for a case+fans that I'll keep for 10 years is not a bad deal, since I'm not a NEET anymore.
Arctic fans are shit not doubting that, but there used to be a good mid range for fans. But this mid range is thinning out and the focus is now more on style/RGB/etc and not hard numbers anymore. Sure you should invest in good parts, but by saying the most expensive ones are the best ones is out of focus. Let's be real here paying 37$ for one fan is expensive and even if money is no problem, this is not the most intelligent decision made then, it's just praising a brand without a critical thought.
>the focus is now more on style/RGB/etc and not hard numbers anymore.
How the frick does this even apply to Noctua and their shit brown fans? The only reason people buy them is because of the quality.
>Sure you should invest in good parts, but by saying the most expensive ones are the best ones is out of focus
You're using strawman arguments. Nobody said said that the they're good BECAUSE they're expensive. They're the best in metrics, warranty and package. Noctua can ask for a lot of money because they offer a good product in exchange.
>Let's be real here paying 37$ for one fan is expensive and even if money is no problem, this is not the most intelligent decision
Prices are fricked. I paid <25€ per A12x25 in 2019.
>it's just praising a brand without a critical thought.
Again, it's just you and a strawman arguing. Nobody said that they buy Noctua just because. If tomorrow somebody would offer a better performing product at a lower price, people would buy it like hotcakes. But besides Phanteks, which ripped off the Noctua design and still managed to make a shittier product, there's no competition.
Arctic P12 and P14 fans are 95% of Noctua performance for 20% of the cost.
But don't you know, anon, unless you buy the premium apple tier products you are not a true tech enthusiast.
Don't fall for the meme.
They whine at certain RPM's but also have a higher pitched whoosh.
Except they're not.
>Worse fan curves
>Higher starting RPM
>Annoying noise when they start, so you have to use a large hysteresis interval if you them to stop at idle/low temps
>No included rubber dampers and not as well balanced, so they resonate much easier with the case
>Motor noise even at <1000rpm, when most noctua fans make just air noise up until 1200rpm
If all you look at is dB readings made by YouTube tech bros, then you're right. If you actually buy and try both brands, you start to see the differences.
Why would you stop fans that are inaudible at 3-400 RPM anyway?
Because most arctic fans don't even start at 3-400rpm. The P12 fans that I had started at 7-800rpm. If you actually tried this, you'd know.
T30s is also thicker than most fans.
>Because most arctic fans don't even start at 3-400rpm. The P12 fans that I had started at 7-800rpm. If you actually tried this, you'd know.
Lying on the internet is pretty easy.
>he installed the ANUS software
>not using the lightweight open and free fan control with more features
LMAO
I'm not going to search for my P12 set in the closet and install that abomination again just to prove my point. When did you buy that fan? What model is it?
NTA but I also have some Arctic P12 fans and they as low as ~280rpm. Bought these 2 years ago.
dayum son, what do your fan curves look like? thought i was crazy for dropping my fans down to 14% when idle (chasis 5 is connected to a fan header with 6 more fans). also any lower than this and i can hear my hdd fricking buzzing which drives me insane.
I manually set them to 0% for the screenshot lol
Usually when idle my case fans spin at 600rpm and the CPU fans are off.
Hard drive noise is a big problem but drowning it out with fan noise makes it even more annoying for me.
>need 4 or 5 them to make the most sense for a case
don't use them as case fans, use them as radiator fans.
If you had a case and gear that would need4 or 5 fans, then you wouldn't be winging about $200. You need 2 intake and one exhaust on most shit tier cases unless you are looking at filling space for RGB which you clearly.
are not.
Just buy 2 40mm cheap fans for the front of the case so you don't have to go to the extreme with the noctua and stop being a dumbc**t
They used to be cheap 3-15 years ago before the clones got good replicating the maglev bearings and blade housing set ups
Now the competition is actually cheaper and better if you aim for actual high end server fans not the RGB rubbish
As somebody that owns both.
Noctua is the superior fan however the Arctic is a good substitute.
As other anons have pointed out in this thread, the sound they give off is higher pitched and there is some humming and motor noise at certain RPM's and is noticable if you have them ramping up and down.
For the price though they are unbeatable.
Greetings fellow fan enjoyers
the only poo noctua i have is this 60mm motherfricker in an HP elitedesk. the heatsink is 70mm but good 70mm fans simply don't exist as far as i can tell
i use a couple of noctua redux fans in my main battlestation, to me it's all the same shit
What is the point of maglev fans?
My brother bought them and shelved them because they were "too noisy" but was running them on DC
I'm running them on PWM and they seem fine;
but what's the point of them?
Longer life
I had two 20cm silverstones die after literally breaking apart in my ft01 after a decade meanwhile my noctura was actually older and didn't deteriorate at all and at higher rpm
Silverstone's 180mm fans were the only fans above 140mm which did not have insane failure rates.
Both mine the blade broke off and stopped spinning
10 years out of a fan is pretty great when other fans of the same size class typically failed in under a year.
>10 years out of a fan is pretty great when other fans of the same size class typically failed in under a year.
Yeah now I've got 3 of them I have no idea what to do with since I'm running a big h170i which moves more with less idk
The globe fan 200mm fans are great
Of course they actually use proportionally sized bearings that you can actually see
ONLYFANS
>buy an r7 define compact a year ago
>solid top made my 3060 ti go up to 90 degrees while in vr and averaged around 85 degrees
>remove the solid top and put in the vented one
>try one of the default fans that came with the case
>dropped temps about 3-4 degrees which wasn't enough for me
>add a $22 noctua fan
>it's super quiet and now my cpu and gpu have dropped about 9 degrees on average
so yeah they're worth it and they last forever
My case has a solid top, restrictive double front grill and a single 120mm exhaust, everything stays cool, I used to have a single 120mm AIO in the exhaust but now I have a dual 140mm AIO in the front for my CPU, RX 6900 XT and it stays cool, how is your case that bad?
Sleeve bearing scam. Get arctic cooling or if you want to spend money something from real manufacturer, panaflo, sunon whatever...
Noctua fans just have among the best noise/CFM ratio on the market and they feel that their brand worth that premium.
They are tons of cheaper options that are only have a slightly worse in CFM/noise ratio.
I suppose if you are a silent or near silence-gay Noctua chassis fans maybe worth it. Otherwise, you will be with 90% of the chassis fans out in the market.
Buy arctic fans then
>80% of the Noctua fan
>2/3rds the price
Why are people chimping out ITT? Poorgays mad again?
I bought like 5 noctua fans when I built my first pc in like 2014 and they work to this day under 24/7 operation and I wouldn't be surprised if they run for another decade.
Are noctua fans overpriced? Well yeah but spending 100$ on fans that will run for like a decade is a chump change compared to all the other pc components.
my noctua fans have been running for 10 years
the chink shit would be replaced 1-2x already so they paid for themselves.
also a better fan with more airflow + being quieter.
I bought the chromax versions and the U12A chromax because i know that i will use them at least for the next 10 years and if anything every needs a new mounting bracket or anyhing doesn't funciton properly after years they will just send you free replacements and mounting kits for free.
Why would i cheap out on cooling of all things when it's the one thing i can easily use for a decade or longer.
I fell for the Arctic meme at first and they were absolute dogshit that sound horrible at multiple RPM ranges and have the worst built quailty ever.
Based anon. Did the same thing myself for the same reasons.
Get a job you chud
>10 normal fans
What are normal fans and why are Noctua fans not normal?
>please tell me noctua fans are a meme
What the frick does that even mean.
They are always the best performing fans both in temps and noise at their size. The only way too beat them is to basicly cheat like the T30 and make your fans 5mm thicker and those cost the same or even more than the Noctua fans.
Being more expensive then other doesn't make them a "meme".
maybe if you place limits like that but for just cooling performance they are absolutely not the best you can get. at some point you will reach limits that require more speed and bigger size to get any meaningful performance improvement
I just buy $5 sleeve bearing fans.
They move 90% of the air, and fail about twice as often. Therefore value is a bit over 200% higher than Memetuas.
I use to think 'whatever they're just high priced' then got one because I was tired of noisy fans and it's fricking worth it my case is whisper quiet.
I also love the color scheme, which I could get more in it.
they 75% of their cost to get 10% better performance
>$37 for ONE
No link, no proof, 100% hyperbole.
Kys moron.
When did these become so expensive?
They've been exorbitant for years.
sticker gayging
They were unmatched when they first came out, now there are a bunch of clones that perform nearly as well out of the box. You're paying a premium for the bearing and the warranty.
MEME tax
System doesn't get hot enough to need more than this, mostly due to my 1050 Ti.
noctua's fan prices are pretty overblown in my opinion.
CARLOS
>buying fricking COMPUTER FANS at $37 a pop
imagine
Buy the artic ones, they are nearly as quiet and push just about as much air. Felt good saving hundreds of dollars on my build
>10
more like 30 and you'll still have some moneny left over
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LmCFf7/arctic-p12-pst-563-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00137a
I mean they're silent while pushing the same amount of air as something that sounds like a vacuum cleaner. There are competing brands like Bequiet and there are overpriced brands like Corsair.
>140mm's of noctuas are ancient and beaten by like 50 different brands at this point
>the 120mms that everyone shills for get utterly flushed by phanteks T30
weren't they meant to release new models this year already?
>140mm's of noctuas are ancient and beaten by like 50 different brands at this point
No they don't. They are still among the better 140mm fans, if anything it's pathetic that it took other companies a decade to catch up.
>the 120mms that everyone shills for get utterly flushed by phanteks T30
The T30 very slightly outperform the 12x25 while being 5mm thicker and they often cost the same or more.
New models are pushed back as always, we just saw prototypes of the next gen 140mm fans a while ago and the new NHD15 heatsink, basicly the same but with 7 heatpipes.
Those will just outperform everything for another decade unless someone releaes 50mm thick 140mm fans.
They are stupid quiet and genuinely amazing quality. buy cheap and you'll just end up hating yourself (unless you already do ig)
>standard warranty is 6 years
>*IF* they fail for any reason, you get a new one shipped to you and all you have to do is break a blade on your broken one and send them a picture, don't have to send it back
>meanwhile they still have the highest performance in both airflow and sound
warranty is 6 years
>>*IF* they fail for any reason, you get a new one shipped to you and all you have to do is break a blade on your broken one and send them a picture, don't have to send it back
they still have the highest performance in both airflow and sound
Basically this.
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
they're a complete meme for bugmen
It's made in a first world country and not in a chinese slave sweatshop.
It's funny that some people might actually believe this.
https://noctua.at/en/i-can-see-slight-variations-between-several-units-of-the-same-noctua-fan-originating-from-taiwan-and-china-is-this-a-problem
god i love noctua
I just mothballed my C70
Kinda of a cramped case, wish they made a full tower version.
Based I had that exact psu I put 590w transient 6900xt oc through it and killed it in a week kek
The arctic p12 cost like 5 euro each and have the same airflow and noise except for a little whine at low speeds.
you can get similar fans for cheaper but noctuas have good air flow for the noise they make and are reliable, I will say people do need to stop thinking they are the only fan thats worth buying, but they are still good fans some of the best
am i a homosexual for buying the black noctua fans bros... give it to me straight...
if you have the money and you can actually see the fans theres no reason to be ashamed for not being a poor gay
It's fan with no bearing, just a sleeve, like cowboy carriage wheels, profit margins on those must be insane, lots of if goes for marketing like youtube, instagram and tiktok shills that "test" them but there's lots of users that that marketing made happy even here on IQfy.
This is literally most fans. Everything is a version of the traditional "sleeve" and it's because it's the quietest but has the issue of wearing out easily, noctua has tried to go full autism to fix that.
Not many fans have a real "bearing" except ball bearing fans or really large fans but those aren't really desired but the DIY.
Every OEM fan is ball bearing one. Dell, HP, Lenovo whatever. Only gamer trash and diy market are those cheap skidders.
OEMs tend to assume no servicing, and with the small diameter high rpm screamers they like to use they have to use ball bearings for a decent life.
The DIY however is willing to change fans should they go out so they take the sleeve compromise to have something quieter.
It's not even a matter of cheapness, ball bearing fans are just not desired. You can but 120mm ball bearing fans all day for under $15.
>Everything is a version of the traditional "sleeve"
Except ball bearing fans. Which are the majority of fans made today. moron.
Yeah in servers and oem shitboxes
Not in the DIY in which most shit is an FDB bearing, aka a modified sleeve.
Ball bearing fans are a minority.
I know your autism doesn't allow for context but come on.
Ball bearing fans are the majority overall due ro their mtbf.
The cheapest fans use sleeves, fdb are quite rare and are more than a modified sleeve. Fdb can outlast even ball bearing fans and still remain quiet.
>This is literally most fans
No man, everything that is even one step in importance above computer for playing vidya has ball bearing fans.
Where you getting them bro? Amazon has them 3 for 36. Still went with Arctic P12 5 for 36 because Noctua is a meme, but yeah, is the guy who's selling these to you a big nose by any chance?
It's a high quality product for a premium price. Some people want to have quality guaranteed, and then they pay extra for noctuas, some people would rather get something cheaper and hopefully just as well-performing, and then they look elsewhere. If you don't agree with it, you're not their target audience.
why are you posting something reasonable? you're supposed to sperg out and say x is better than noctua for a lower price you moron
There are plenty of perfectly fine cheaper fans. Noctua products are either the best or as good as the best, reliable, and the company has good service. If you’re building a high end system for use in a living space they’re an obvious choice and they will last a long time. Use them for ten years and that’s $20/yr for 5.
There’s no reason you REALLY need anything better than stock cooling and the fans that came with a case unless you’re doing something esoteric.
>noctua
noctua, like red bull, glock, etc, is an austrian company
the tax rate in austria is close to 60-66% for people in the engineering professions
things could be a lot cheaper if you didn't subsidize 2/3rds of europe with your purchase.
How many fans should I have in a PC? Besides my CPU fan I only have 3.
Are your components thermal throttling? Are they close to throttling? If yes, the answer is yes. if no, the answer is still yes because more fans = betterer computer.
enough to make airflow flow, that depends on many, many things. fun fact though, the more fans you get, the quieter your PC becomes because you can run each fan at lower rpm
As many as there are mounts for. You aren't a fanlet, right?
The best part is that they don't even generate much air pressure
Literally useless
>need 4 or 5
YOU NEED 9
>Designed in Austria
how is this onions? i like my products being developed by actual engineers and not a bunch of diversity specialists
I've replaced mine with the t30 phanteks, but I'm actually looking forward to the 140mm they're releasing this year.
Phanteks makes just as silent fans and they cost like half. Also, they're not butt-fricking ugly
its a cash grab but they last forever if it makes you feel better.
>Buy a 5 pack of Nexus Real Silent 120mm (Silent PC Review's default fan) when building computer
>Was a bit of a splurge, cost like $35
>Still going strong (and silently) 10 years later
>Wouldn't even be enough to buy one Noctua today
The increase in fan price was the biggest shock when looking at the price of components after many years.
>$15 or so for one
>spins
>moves air
>not brown
>says noctua on the box
good shit
>>not brown
It sucks.
But it does not have those placebo grooves and creases, it's shit.
>Placebo
Remember to append "I'm moronic btw" next time you post
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You people go crazy over new CPU/GPU releases every few months, but paying 100-200 bucks on fans that will last and outperform basicly everything for the next decade is somehow too much.
They're nice. I wound up buying four of their slim fans due to their reputation for being durable and long-lasting. I've had slim fans from Scythe, Gelid, and Cryorig, and all those crapped out in 6-12 months. Hopefully the meme fans last longer.
TIL they make slim versions.
yeah, they're Noctua NF-A12x15. Catchy fricking name, for sure.
I have an ebike battery charger with a fricking screaming fan that I can hear across the apartment when it's on. I'm thinking of disassembling the charger, checking out what kind of a fan it has inside, and then swapping it for something brown.
it will probably overheat because those noisy fans move way more air than any noctua ever could
I seriously doubt the fan on it is actually that good.
just remember to compare them first. maybe you are right but usually the loud chink fans do move more air than these fancy brands. i replaced a 80mm chink fan with one of the best noctuas i could find in that size and the airflow is significantly lower... it only works because i swapped out all the older hdds with new ones that produce less heat
ive seen server fans move 400 cfm that are screaming banshees, do a smoke test
This is just an ebike charger with a 40x40x15 fan. Can't be bothered to dismantle the charger now to see what CFM it has, but I imagine it's in the 5-15 range.
You don't have to get 4 or 5
I have one in the upper back and one in the lower front
That's why you buy the Arctic 5-packs for 20 bucks, they throw in a 10 year warranty too
I have used my Thor case since I built my computer in 2015 with the default fans it came with, and have never had any issues with noise. Sometimes the side fan on the sheet metal cover starts to make a chopping sound because its scuffing against the case or something idk. I just give it a light kick with my foot and it stops acting up.
I cannot imagine buying 37 dollar fans to replace all the ones in your case, just for noise reasons. I wear headphones and cant even hear my computer running unless I dial up the fans using the dials on the case, but I have never found myself needing to do that.
god damn it where is the fan hub!!!!
In Q3, can't you read?
they had it at computex in 2019 dude.
just release it already
our again, just get arctic cooling which already have 2 sockets for pwm signal/power sharing, no need for fan hub
>noctua desk fan
Be quiet is a good alternative, but still expensive. Their 120mm PWM fan is going for $22 right now. It might be placebo but to me it seems like the pitch of the fan noise is lower than on my Noctuas which makes them sound slightly more pleasant.
bequiet is shit
pushes less air than noctua, is quieter than noctua but the motors on teh 1500rpm+ models have an annoying hum that persists at low and high RPM
my 140mm bequiet is an exhaust fan, pushes sufficient air and is quieter. though I guess the real test would be normalizing the noise and doing some tests. also noctua has separate skus for radiators and bequiet might not be great for static pressure.
>noctua thread
Has this person every heard of a routing tool? This looks like shit.
Meanwhile I get 5 rgb coolermaster fans that do the same thing for $40, and less if I decide to grow up
Worth it, my PC is dead silent
The P12 fans are 1/4 the price and are just as quiet and cool just as well.
But yes, there is a weird RPM range where they have a humming noise.
Just don't run them at that speed.
I run eight p12s at about 500rpm on a 480 Radiator.
Noise is like 26dba.
No issue with cooling while rendering.
Even with fan speeds pushed down to basically nothing.
I have 3 exhaust fans and no intake fans. Am I fricked up?
Replacing my MiSTer fan with a Noctua was great, but that was only like $25 for a tiny fan.
tell me noctua fans are a meme
Diminishing returns. They're not necessarily a meme, they're just the final form of efficiency.
For me it's SE-904TWIN
>twin towers design
>bought 6x 120mm Noctua industrial 3k RPM fans for $30 each
>use some low voltage adapters to bring them down to around 2k RPM
>they still move shit loads of air
>no grinding from bearings
>no rattling
I must have bought these something like 6 years ago.
is there a point to the low voltage adapters? Cna't you just reduce speed in bios or whatever?
>Cna't you just reduce speed in bios or whatever?
The fans being controlled in BIOS are usually percentage based. 25% of 3k RPM is still far louder and faster than 25% of 1200RPM. So the low voltage adapter gives me an RPM "ceiling" of around 2050RPM. I then use BIOS to set the fan curve to cap out at around 85% at full tilt. They go up and down with the CPU fan as temps go up and down. These fans even at reduced speeds still move more air than the other super low RPM Noctuas do at full speed. And by their very nature as "Industrial" fans, they're built to last for damn near ever. They're actually built to spin at max RPM for something like 150,000 hours before being at risk of failing.
I sea
anyone have a guide on which NOCTUA to buy? I thought it was going to be simiple like they only have 1 fan, but they have a so many different ones.
NF-P12 reduxif you're a poorgay or like grey
NF-F12 if for some reason you can't stomach the extra $5 for the NF-A12x25
NF-A12x25 is the best overall.
The P12 and F12 comes in 140mm sizes as the P14 and F14. The A12 has no 140mm version.
The Industrial PPC version of the F12 will give you higher RPM and more airflow plus it's black
The Chromax fans are the same as the regular fans just black
Shit like the NF-S12A and S12B are memes in 95% of circumstances
The round frame versions of fans you need not concern yourself with unless you have a specific application.
Fans also come in 5V versions so watch out that you don't buy those for your PC
Phantek t30 got them beat.
>I love noctua
>fills case with noctua fans
>still uses stock gpu fans
Weak.
I'm looking for a maglevs, are there any better than those RGB Corsair's?
>"I care about fan noise"
>keepscase in the same room as the terminal
>not even on the floor, but on the table less than a yard away
It's like you're all tenement poors with nothing but sheep mentality
damn this was a schizopost and a half, can someone translate please
stop being poor
> need 4 or 5 them to make the most sense for a case
You need at least 14 of them at minimum for optimal air circulation. 4 intake in front, 3 in the bottom, 6 push pull at the top, and one 280mm in the back. And yes they have to be all Noctua, in the famous tan and brown, you don’t wanna any cheapie. Proper aerodynamics is a science that very few can master. I have 33 fans in my case, all Noctua. I can feel the airflow halfway across the room. Get on my level you plebs.
I don't care with the noise. I just buy the ones with maximum RPM and max them out.
>thread about fans gets 280 replies
never change /g
not just any fan. the apple of fan makers
Why do bugs (Asians) hate brown fans so much?
combined power of 7.76amps and 12200 chinknesium rip'ems
my ear plugs are ready
>when you counteract the heatsink weight bending the mobo through sher airflow.
I thought they were just for the CPU? Normal case fans are good enough, do higher end case fans make a difference?
I'll keep my $9 a fan P12s
Turned down to maybe 500rpm.
Can render video all day without any noise or overheating.
Completely inaudible.
And my hearing is almost perfect according to yearly hearing tests my work makes us take.
I've been running a redux fan for years at 14V and no problem so far. Static pressure from iPPC is savage. Make up your mind now
yes, and?
TBF you only need 2 noctua fans to replace 4 chink fans. They're that good and they work even better if you block off any unused fan mounts.
I love how much even the slightest mention of Noctua triggers this board.
uhh
They are a meme.
The reason they are quit isn't some magic sciencing, its because they spin really slow.
Which also means low airflow.
They are just shilled by likes of onions tech tips because he gets paid for it.
You are fricking moronic. Noctua fans are always the quietest fans at the same RPM as other fans while still pushing the most air. Basicly the only exceptions are fans like the T30.
What do you people even gain from making up shit?
If you replaced the time you spend making bitter posts on an internet forum with working and making money instead you'd be able to afford all the things you sour grapes over.
i remember buying a 200mm noctua fan that i would use on my haf xb evo case. 1 degree difference..
So what's the consensus on termalfake tough fans?
>311 replies about fans
I'm a big fan of spinning things.
>Product cheap enough for the masses of neets and poorgays to afford.
>Enough variety for them to fight over.
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