Achilles is evil

A homosexual narcissist defeated by rage. Decadence begins with him, the Greeks were decadents before Jesus.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Achilles was actually seen as the scumbag villain until the Renaissance or thereabouts. Hector is the most based figure in literary history.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Odysseus?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        For me, it's Ulysses

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick off Thersites you ugly cripple

      Hector is even worse. Achilles' idea is legitimate, he's just too decadent to accomplish it.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Achilles is a tragic hero
      How many times do we have to go through this, moron?

      >Achilles was actually seen as the scumbag villain
      Seen by whom?
      >Hector is the most based figure in literary history.
      No that would be Diomedes.

      [...]
      it's not ancient, of course. the greek hero is frenquently a c**t and often just a pawn on the hands of the gods (which are themselves c**ts, too). Shrewdness is a much more valued trait. Piety is necessary as to not anger the gods - which are very much easy to anger
      the virtuous - that is, honest, chaste, pious - hero is indeed a medieval christian invention.

      >the virtuous - that is, honest, chaste, pious - hero is indeed a medieval christian invention.
      Oath-breakers are the most despised people in the story. The war itself was caused by Paris' and Helen lacking in chastity. Every positive character expresses respect for the gods and it's a major issue whenever they disobey the Olympians.

      >homosexual
      Not in the original poem
      >narcissist
      He chooses to swallow his pride and help the Greeks
      >defeated by rage
      Makes the clear-eyed decision to fight and win eternal glory rather run back home like a cuck and die in old age forgotten

      Didn't read the poem.

      >Not in the original poem
      >He chooses to swallow his pride and help the Greeks
      correct.
      >Makes the clear-eyed decision to fight and win eternal glory rather run back home like a cuck and die in old age forgotten
      Not exactly, no. By the time he kills Hector and desecrates his body, he knows that he will never return home and see his wife and son. He makes a clear-eyed decision between fighting and dying like a hero and fighting and dying like a coward.

      even Diomedes felt the need to distance himself from the events, and ended up in Middle Italy, founding, thenceforth Argos Hippium, far in the ankle of the Achilles heel of Italy northwards of the city of Troia, in the province of Puglia.

      [...]
      Technically speaking Virtue dictated Hector take Paris by the neck and throw him from the wall and drive Helen, by use of a whip, back into the arms of her former husband; since it was them both at fault.

      In a lot of ways the King of Ilium is not unlike Aeneas own father in that, properly speaking, Aeneas/Hector has to drag the elderly man from his chair in indecision and carry him on his back to the proper decision.

      >Technically speaking Virtue dictated Hector take Paris by the neck and throw him from the wall
      That would be kin-slaying, which is an unforgivable transgression for the culture in question as well as most human cultures period. Hector does make it extremely clear that had Paris been anyone other than a son of Priam, he would be long dead by now.

      • 11 months ago
        Sir Duncan Crumb (His Lordship)

        speaking Virtue dictated Hector take Paris by the neck and throw him from the wall
        Rather as a metaphor for handing him over to the Greeks, as in, months before it reached the point it did.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    frick off Thersites you ugly cripple

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    it's not ancient, of course. the greek hero is frenquently a c**t and often just a pawn on the hands of the gods (which are themselves c**ts, too). Shrewdness is a much more valued trait. Piety is necessary as to not anger the gods - which are very much easy to anger
    the virtuous - that is, honest, chaste, pious - hero is indeed a medieval christian invention.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's one step forwards two steps back. The true knowledge is always obscured.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    diomedes chads WYA?

    • 11 months ago
      Sir Duncan Crumb (His Lordship)

      even Diomedes felt the need to distance himself from the events, and ended up in Middle Italy, founding, thenceforth Argos Hippium, far in the ankle of the Achilles heel of Italy northwards of the city of Troia, in the province of Puglia.

      [...]
      it's not ancient, of course. the greek hero is frenquently a c**t and often just a pawn on the hands of the gods (which are themselves c**ts, too). Shrewdness is a much more valued trait. Piety is necessary as to not anger the gods - which are very much easy to anger
      the virtuous - that is, honest, chaste, pious - hero is indeed a medieval christian invention.

      Technically speaking Virtue dictated Hector take Paris by the neck and throw him from the wall and drive Helen, by use of a whip, back into the arms of her former husband; since it was them both at fault.

      In a lot of ways the King of Ilium is not unlike Aeneas own father in that, properly speaking, Aeneas/Hector has to drag the elderly man from his chair in indecision and carry him on his back to the proper decision.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Right here

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    All those things are good and Achilles was a hero

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >homosexual
    Not in the original poem
    >narcissist
    He chooses to swallow his pride and help the Greeks
    >defeated by rage
    Makes the clear-eyed decision to fight and win eternal glory rather run back home like a cuck and die in old age forgotten

    Didn't read the poem.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't read the poem
      We noticed.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Greeks were decadents before Jesus
    As opposed to ???

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plus don’t forget poor Troilus

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