After learning about the history of early islam, I feel like Ali was a more honorable man than Mohammad

After learning about the history of early islam, I feel like Ali was a more honorable man than Mohammad

I think that islam would be a better religion if they treated Muhammad like John the Baptist and made Ali their primary prophet

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is he better than Mohammed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mohammad raped a child

      Ali seems like a peaceful person
      He could have gone to war against the other khalifs and been justified in doing so (if you assume that they were corrupt) but tried to keep the peace
      If anything Ali was too peaceful and this lead to his family’s downfall

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >le nice guy
        That's why he lost. Side not but Muhammad took advantage of his family who aided him no matter the cost but did nothing for them in return. At least that's the sense I get.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Mohammad raped a child
        Shia argue Aisha was older.
        Doesn't matter because Muhammad, Ali, Jesus, Moses, John the Baptist, and all of those homosexuals did not exist. Just made up nonsense. Even if there were a god, it would be closer to the relatively impartial approach of Plotinus.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Shia argue Aisha was older
          That just proves that Sunnis don’t care about the morality of Mohammad

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sunnism cares mostly about trying to justify the actions of the "companions." If you ever look at their lines of reasoning and mental gymnastics you'll get a good laugh out of it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If you ever look at their lines of reasoning and mental gymnastics you'll get a good laugh out of it
            Aka whataboutism, and "they were persecuted, so acting like thieving bastards was justified".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That wasn't my point

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Literally all of those people were real, what kind of crack are you smoking?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shia is nothing but cope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sunni islam is the real cope

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          raped a child
          >Shia argue Aisha was older.
          why does this even matter? if mohammad raped a child, it's ok because he is mohammad. isn't he literally sent by god? i get that it's good to understand what actually happen, but often people seem to argue about it as if it would make a difference, as if it would make mohammad a bad person or something. he is the fricking prophet

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why does this even matter
            In the eyes of the shia she was an evil prostitute. So sunnis aged her down and said look how can she be evil when she was so young in response. Fast forward to modern times and the most common insult towards muhammad is him being a pedo

            Shia is nothing but cope.

            Sunni islam is cope the religion.
            >um bro we don't judge the companions
            >allah knows best don't question anything
            >every civil war was just a misunderstanding

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wignat homosexual don’t know anything but can't stop barking.

        How old was Fatima (R.A.) when she was married to Ali (R.A)
        She was 11.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Marriage doesn’t always mean sex
          Do you know if he penetrated her immediately or waited until she was older

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And Ali was 16.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's literally shia islam
    >but that's only the ghulat sects
    The normal ones just hide it better

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ali was a more honorable man than Mohammad
    How so? give examples

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was literally muhammad's second and killed people at his command. He wasn't really a person but a tool. He was groomed by muhammad since he was a child

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah, Muh was sketchy

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cringe persian thread

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The man who launched 1000 schizo cults

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This gigachad is the cause of all the main schisms in islam. Martin Luther on steroids

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have trouble finding anything holy about muhammed. He was arab schizo warlord who raped children. His religion was a shitty copy of christianity he had learnt about during his caravan visits to civilization.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >learnt about during his caravan visits to civilization
      Christianity was already prominent among the Arabs by this point. You don't know shit about the history of islam

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