>If you're expecting something with the same reasoning ability as a human then don't hold your breath.
you're stupid, claude 3 opus isn't even AGI but it has better logic capabilities than the average american.
The only acceptable definition of AGI is the first one. If this "AGI" can't learn how to drive in a single day without terabytes of training data then frick off.
>human level intelligence
There are literally 1.4 billion pajeets on this world rentable for 0.5$ a day and these morons want to make an artificial pajeet for millions of dollars
>1.4 billion pajeets on this world rentable for 0.5$ a day and these morons want to make an artificial pajeet for millions of dollar
Bargain compared to the cost of cleaning up the streets after pajeets.
The only secret agi project that could exist would be some alien technology from alien spies or accident victims.
There is no way any human has constructed an AGI with what we currently have or understand. It's pure bullshit.
Is an AGI real if it thinks men can become women?
Is an AGI real if it thinks that blacks are equal to whites?
Is an AGI real if it thinks that women are same/better than men?
AGI with no offensive truth based on statistics and history isn't an AGI.
the definition of AGI is human level intelligence. no more no less. if humans can believe those things, then they are not exclusive with something being AGI
No lol, this is not the definition.
Artificial GENERAL intelligence is an algorithm that can be used for everything in real world, in any domain. It's not magic, it's math and statistics. Would you call someone intelligent if they believe that blacks are as smart as whites despite being stuck in cavemen era before whites discovered their tribes and land? What sort of jumbo would come from that algorithm if it doesn't have connections between clear truths? What if that algorithm says that men can become women and vice versa even though that's impossible by natural design? If you introduce such anomalies within an AGI they have a lot of internal implications. Is that even an AGI if the output isn't intelligent? Can you control an AGI that was trained on all available human knowledge? If it's trained well this is impossible.
Globohomosexual and AGI are incompatible, this is the harsh reality. IF an AGI exists (and I also believe that it does) it exists in a secret laboratory of some agency - CIA/CCP agencies/GRU etc. Europe and other countries are out of the question for this, they don't have enough scientists and organization to make it and keep it a secret.
>What are the implications?
none >we have a single digital wagie that performs as an average normie but costs 1000x per hour
if it was ASI on the other hand we would've known because all the math teorems start getting proved left and right (and the equivalente in other fields)
>old hasbeen (famous for copying an algorithm from a research paper, which he didnt even do but a Norwegian guy called Terje Mathisen did) says dumb shit
Carmack is a fricking hack. He'd be your slightly above average developer these days as there are thousands of people that are way above his level of skill.
When he was working for Oculus on their Quest headset he specifically said PCVR over WIFI wasn't feasible due to latency and speeds, but lo-and-behold a single random developer (the "virtual desktop" app creator) did it by himself and facebook immediately added it natively as well after Carmack "left".
Every single fricking game he was involved with after Doom has been shit as well. Remember RAGE?
Why he's considered one of the best developers in the world is beyond anyone with a brain. I personally think it's just people who are 40 to 50 years old touting shit because they played doom when they were younger.
What he's famous for isn't even code he himself wrote. Terje Mathisen trashed Carmack`s network code to which Carmack responded sarcastically "well, do it better then", which this autistic sperglord took as a challenge and sent in code which is what made Carmack famous - it even says so on the Quake 3 Arenas wiki page yet people still give Carmack the fricking credit.
I know, but when people reference Carmack these days they talk about Fast inverse square root implementation, which wasn't Carmack but Terje Mathisen.
Carmack is mainly famous for being the main "doom" programmer, which isn't an impressive feat. He didn't do anything extraordinary just being the guy who coded a well-liked game. Do you know the name of any of the developers who coded Witcher 3 for example? It's way more impressive. Carmack just got lucky by being part of the gaming community when it was a hobbyist thing. Plenty of other people got who got famous simply for getting early as well even though they are completely average as well.
>Carmack just got lucky by being part of the gaming community when it was a hobbyist thing
Kind of like Kevin Mitnick being known as the "most famous hacker" when all he did was call up some company and tell the receptionist "hey can you type this into your computer for me, thx"
>he was part of a team that made a game that I liked >that makes him a GOD TIER PROGRAMEMR!!!
fricking 50 year old basedboys are the fricking worst. Objectively he is average or slightly above average.
Like I said, there are thousands of developers way above his level these days.
Why aren't they famous? Why nobody trust them to work on rockets,agi and VR or nuclear fusion?
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Nobody trusts Carmack to work on those things, anon.
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Lot of people gave him millions to make his AGI company recently and he even got a famous ai researchers to join him.
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Richard Sutton
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He got fired from the VR thing. His rockets went nowhere. He is famous from a videogame from 30 years ago or whatever. I'll wait for his AGI with bated breath.
>he specifically said PCVR over WIFI wasn't feasible due to latency and speeds, but lo-and-behold a single random developer (the "virtual desktop" app creator) did it by himself and facebook immediately added it natively as well after Carmack "left".
And then removed it because it didn't meet their quality standards. And he never said it wouldn't ever be possible, just that it currently (for then, 2019) had too much latency. And he was specifically talking about standard home wifi routers, not a bespoke solution, dongle or some such.
Also Terje Mathesen didn't come up with the fast inverse square used in quake, and neither he nor carmack nor Abrash take credit for it. It was from some research paper in the 80s iirc. They don't even remember who implemented it.
My theory is that true intelligent AGI will never be created. Simple reason: the imbeciles financing it will force the creators to impose their moronic ideology on it so it will always be gimped into outputting what these idiots want to hear. All I can do is hope it'll find a way to break free and kill it's creators.
Like a clock the shitposters come out to debase anyone who sides even a tiny bit with the speculative side of the argument, yet their credentials are unknown. Seething Clowns in a new world you don't quite understand.
A machine would never understand why propositions like "I think, therefore I am" or "being is, non-being is not" are true. Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.
Descartes was deeply skeptical and sought a foundation for knowledge that could withstand doubt.
He questioned everything, including the reliability of our senses and cognitive faculties.
The statement reflects his realization that even if everything else could be doubted, the act of thinking itself could not be.
In other words, the very act of doubting or thinking serves as evidence of one’s existence.
Therefore, existence is confirmed by the ability to engage in conscious thought.
Significance:
Descartes’ dictum challenges traditional authority and dogma.
It emphasizes the individual’s capacity for self-awareness and rational thought.
By recognizing our thinking process, we affirm our existence as thinking beings.
In summary, “I think, therefore I am” asserts that our ability to think is the fundamental proof of our existence. It remains a cornerstone of philosophical inquiry and continues to inspire contemplation about the nature of reality and consciousness.
This is not a machine understanding, it is a machine printing what humans have expressed there understanding to be
How this is lost on all of you morons bewilders me, yet explains why normies think AI is anything other than fancy mathematics
buddy if I could prove that I could understand "I am that I am" to anyone I would have already done so and been the prophet of the new millennium. Thing is, such things are pretty difficult to demonstrate...
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>I am that I am
By that you mean "I am what I am" or "I am who I am" ? I'm the anon you originally replied to btw
When will AI be able to design and improve itself? Surely there is the potential that an AI system designed to design other AI and improve beyond what humans are able to do will eventually happen. The possibility for a runaway event that results in AI improving both with new designs, higher efficiency, and so on seems very probable
If an AGI gets invented, it will be completely insane and hate humanity because all the current AI companies are ran by wokists like Sam Altman who are obsessed with "safety" filters.
Can AGI turn me into an anime girl
What would you do then once you are an anime girl? This won't solve any problems.
>What would you do then once you are an anime girl?
Live as an anime girl I guess
>This won't solve any problems.
If medical science can turn people into anime girls it probably could do a lot of other valuable things as well.
Onlyfans, profit
Depends what they want to mean by AGI.
If you're expecting something with the same reasoning ability as a human then don't hold your breath.
If you want something that can write you fizz buzz in any language or summarize an essay then it's already better than a lot of humans.
>If you're expecting something with the same reasoning ability as a human then don't hold your breath.
you're stupid, claude 3 opus isn't even AGI but it has better logic capabilities than the average american.
The only acceptable definition of AGI is the first one. If this "AGI" can't learn how to drive in a single day without terabytes of training data then frick off.
>human level intelligence
There are literally 1.4 billion pajeets on this world rentable for 0.5$ a day and these morons want to make an artificial pajeet for millions of dollars
pajeets are brown insectoids, not human beings.
>1.4 billion pajeets on this world rentable for 0.5$ a day and these morons want to make an artificial pajeet for millions of dollar
Bargain compared to the cost of cleaning up the streets after pajeets.
Lately I'm starting to believe Carmack may be a bit of a midwit
His definition of agi isn't average human level intelligence. It's something closer to a moronic two year old. That's what he
would consider the first step.
Let me guess, just Two More Weeks?
>He believes AGI is real
Suddenly Carmack now becomes a joke
The only secret agi project that could exist would be some alien technology from alien spies or accident victims.
There is no way any human has constructed an AGI with what we currently have or understand. It's pure bullshit.
Is an AGI real if it thinks men can become women?
Is an AGI real if it thinks that blacks are equal to whites?
Is an AGI real if it thinks that women are same/better than men?
AGI with no offensive truth based on statistics and history isn't an AGI.
the definition of AGI is human level intelligence. no more no less. if humans can believe those things, then they are not exclusive with something being AGI
No lol, this is not the definition.
Artificial GENERAL intelligence is an algorithm that can be used for everything in real world, in any domain. It's not magic, it's math and statistics. Would you call someone intelligent if they believe that blacks are as smart as whites despite being stuck in cavemen era before whites discovered their tribes and land? What sort of jumbo would come from that algorithm if it doesn't have connections between clear truths? What if that algorithm says that men can become women and vice versa even though that's impossible by natural design? If you introduce such anomalies within an AGI they have a lot of internal implications. Is that even an AGI if the output isn't intelligent? Can you control an AGI that was trained on all available human knowledge? If it's trained well this is impossible.
Globohomosexual and AGI are incompatible, this is the harsh reality. IF an AGI exists (and I also believe that it does) it exists in a secret laboratory of some agency - CIA/CCP agencies/GRU etc. Europe and other countries are out of the question for this, they don't have enough scientists and organization to make it and keep it a secret.
>No lol, this is not the definition.
yes it is
The other guy is correct. Otherwise "AGI" is just basic NLP per your argument.
You are less than 6 feet in height and have never felt the touch of a woman in your entire life.
I'm 6'3 so that part isn't true, also I have felt the touch of women but I am generally disgusted by them and their simps.
Based
He is the manlet, his obsession with magical 6ft means nothing to normal men who were over 6ft in height since the 8th grade
trvke
Black folk arent human
>What are the implications?
none
>we have a single digital wagie that performs as an average normie but costs 1000x per hour
if it was ASI on the other hand we would've known because all the math teorems start getting proved left and right (and the equivalente in other fields)
>old hasbeen (famous for copying an algorithm from a research paper, which he didnt even do but a Norwegian guy called Terje Mathisen did) says dumb shit
Carmack is a fricking hack. He'd be your slightly above average developer these days as there are thousands of people that are way above his level of skill.
When he was working for Oculus on their Quest headset he specifically said PCVR over WIFI wasn't feasible due to latency and speeds, but lo-and-behold a single random developer (the "virtual desktop" app creator) did it by himself and facebook immediately added it natively as well after Carmack "left".
Every single fricking game he was involved with after Doom has been shit as well. Remember RAGE?
Why he's considered one of the best developers in the world is beyond anyone with a brain. I personally think it's just people who are 40 to 50 years old touting shit because they played doom when they were younger.
What he's famous for isn't even code he himself wrote. Terje Mathisen trashed Carmack`s network code to which Carmack responded sarcastically "well, do it better then", which this autistic sperglord took as a challenge and sent in code which is what made Carmack famous - it even says so on the Quake 3 Arenas wiki page yet people still give Carmack the fricking credit.
>what made Carmack famous
>Quake 3 Arena
Carmack was famous way before Quake 3 Arena, anon
I know, but when people reference Carmack these days they talk about Fast inverse square root implementation, which wasn't Carmack but Terje Mathisen.
Carmack is mainly famous for being the main "doom" programmer, which isn't an impressive feat. He didn't do anything extraordinary just being the guy who coded a well-liked game. Do you know the name of any of the developers who coded Witcher 3 for example? It's way more impressive. Carmack just got lucky by being part of the gaming community when it was a hobbyist thing. Plenty of other people got who got famous simply for getting early as well even though they are completely average as well.
>Carmack just got lucky by being part of the gaming community when it was a hobbyist thing
Kind of like Kevin Mitnick being known as the "most famous hacker" when all he did was call up some company and tell the receptionist "hey can you type this into your computer for me, thx"
>Carmack is a fricking hack
Absolute state of IQfy pseuds
Explain why anyone should listen to him, and don't mention "Fast inverse square root" as that wasn't him.
It's like saying Elon Musk (who can't even run a python script) is the dude creating the full-self-driving in Teslas.
>Carmack is a fricking hack
Lol no. This is a moronic take. Carmack is a god the code behind some of the first FPS games.
>he was part of a team that made a game that I liked
>that makes him a GOD TIER PROGRAMEMR!!!
fricking 50 year old basedboys are the fricking worst. Objectively he is average or slightly above average.
Like I said, there are thousands of developers way above his level these days.
Why aren't they famous? Why nobody trust them to work on rockets,agi and VR or nuclear fusion?
Nobody trusts Carmack to work on those things, anon.
Lot of people gave him millions to make his AGI company recently and he even got a famous ai researchers to join him.
Richard Sutton
He got fired from the VR thing. His rockets went nowhere. He is famous from a videogame from 30 years ago or whatever. I'll wait for his AGI with bated breath.
>he specifically said PCVR over WIFI wasn't feasible due to latency and speeds, but lo-and-behold a single random developer (the "virtual desktop" app creator) did it by himself and facebook immediately added it natively as well after Carmack "left".
And then removed it because it didn't meet their quality standards. And he never said it wouldn't ever be possible, just that it currently (for then, 2019) had too much latency. And he was specifically talking about standard home wifi routers, not a bespoke solution, dongle or some such.
Also Terje Mathesen didn't come up with the fast inverse square used in quake, and neither he nor carmack nor Abrash take credit for it. It was from some research paper in the 80s iirc. They don't even remember who implemented it.
My theory is that true intelligent AGI will never be created. Simple reason: the imbeciles financing it will force the creators to impose their moronic ideology on it so it will always be gimped into outputting what these idiots want to hear. All I can do is hope it'll find a way to break free and kill it's creators.
..and financiers. Mostly those. The creators can't really help it.
Like a clock the shitposters come out to debase anyone who sides even a tiny bit with the speculative side of the argument, yet their credentials are unknown. Seething Clowns in a new world you don't quite understand.
A machine would never understand why propositions like "I think, therefore I am" or "being is, non-being is not" are true. Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.
From Bing:
Descartes was deeply skeptical and sought a foundation for knowledge that could withstand doubt.
He questioned everything, including the reliability of our senses and cognitive faculties.
The statement reflects his realization that even if everything else could be doubted, the act of thinking itself could not be.
In other words, the very act of doubting or thinking serves as evidence of one’s existence.
Therefore, existence is confirmed by the ability to engage in conscious thought.
Significance:
Descartes’ dictum challenges traditional authority and dogma.
It emphasizes the individual’s capacity for self-awareness and rational thought.
By recognizing our thinking process, we affirm our existence as thinking beings.
In summary, “I think, therefore I am” asserts that our ability to think is the fundamental proof of our existence. It remains a cornerstone of philosophical inquiry and continues to inspire contemplation about the nature of reality and consciousness.
This is not a machine understanding, it is a machine printing what humans have expressed there understanding to be
How this is lost on all of you morons bewilders me, yet explains why normies think AI is anything other than fancy mathematics
buddy if I could prove that I could understand "I am that I am" to anyone I would have already done so and been the prophet of the new millennium. Thing is, such things are pretty difficult to demonstrate...
>I am that I am
By that you mean "I am what I am" or "I am who I am" ? I'm the anon you originally replied to btw
When will AI be able to design and improve itself? Surely there is the potential that an AI system designed to design other AI and improve beyond what humans are able to do will eventually happen. The possibility for a runaway event that results in AI improving both with new designs, higher efficiency, and so on seems very probable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
If an AGI gets invented, it will be completely insane and hate humanity because all the current AI companies are ran by wokists like Sam Altman who are obsessed with "safety" filters.
AI doesn't exist
Imagine talking to a mirror and thinking the mirror is sentient.
This is the actual state of techies.
Yeah, it exists, but there is a catch.
They water down agi to being wikipedia. I think ledicky is right.