What are your favorite books related to this subject? Fiction or non-fiction. Also, I wonder if American anons here have ancestor who fought in this war.
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American Civil War books
ancestors*
I love how american conservatives say how moral their country was for fighting a war to end slavery. The guy who shot Hitler was a true hero too.
That’s a weird thing to love.
As far as fiction goes, the Killer Angels is a classic. I also liked Cold Mountain. I read The Red Badge of Courage in school, but it was so long ago that I don't recall much.
>I wonder if American anons here have ancestor who fought in this war.
I do.
> I do
Confederate or Union?
The good guys
Confederates[/code]
I don't understand how people who hate Black folk see the good guys in the side that literally shed blood for their right to breed and import more Black folk and integrate them deeper into national economy. They even go on about how Black folk were treated actually really well in their enslaved state, and how INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE AND VALUABLE >Black folk >valuable Black folk were to their owners and how it was economically suicidal for plantationers to treat their Black folk like shit, and how vital the Black person economy was for the rise of the USA.
If anything, the Confederate-adjacents are the group that has spend most effort, resources and words in human history on enthusiastically proving to everyone that they believe that Black folk are alright and don't hate them at all.
I do. Even have his discharge document (it's beautiful) framed on a bedroom wall. Would post it but his name is the same as mine. A certain Pennsylvania Calvary regiment, Company B, Army of the Potomac-- 1861-65. Served in the Peninsula Campaign, then Petersburg to Appomattox. Disbanded in Richmond August of '65.
So the north LOVES to point out their ethical superiority in the war. South says they tough for states rights to cover their asses… but if was state rights to do what? Own slaves. They don’t really have a leg to stand on. We’ve all heard this argument, blah-blah-blah. Don’t want to harp on it or give it the time of day.
What I want to talk about, and don’t really see people talking about, is how the north fricked over the south and then the rest of the world wit their banking system, fricking imperialists. Started with the carpet baggers after the war. Does anyone have some good books on that? The north didn’t exactly have a moral high ground in this war, they were just looking to enslave people through debt and they got what they wanted.
>starts post off with homosexualry about "muh states rights means muh slavery" with no consideration for nuance
>then immediately acknowledges the north fought a war with the south to the sole benefit bankers to the point where after it concluded said bankers had the good goy president shot in front of his wife
I'm astonished. You're living demonstrable proof that someone can spoon feed an individual facts and nuance, but if they're a moronic simpleton like (You), the simpleton will just use that information to reinforce their moronation. They will learn nothing because that single iota of true intellect, that spark indicating the presence of a spirit or a soul, is simply missing. I never thought I would actually meet a member of the allegorical cave. I'll remember your homosexualry whenever I weigh the pros and cans of trying to educate a moron.
That excerpt is hauntingly timeless and accurate. Really good find, man.
I see a lot of yapping and no sources. You’re just full of bullshit give me a book or get the frick away from me.
>someone flings shit back at your moronic opinion
>"ERM SOURCE?"
The only reading material you need is a pamphlet on how to commit suicide. You'd probably frick that up too without help.
im not reading all that shit you wrote homie
Someone on IQfy who doesn’t read, how original.
>to do what? Own slaves.
Not true. The right to secede as well.
I wonder why they suddenly wanted to succeed, such a mystery, maybe it was to continue owning slaves. moron.
Stop defending the south and give me dirt on the north.
Economic disparity. Slaves were only a part of it.
Confederate memoirs are very enjoyable, although some might find them too steeped in Victorian purple prose. Dick Taylor's is my favorite; very colorful, informative, and choleric.
Oh wow
I’m not seeing any good recommendations here… This illustrated Bicentennial is probably my favorite. A good general overview alongside Confederate
memoirs this anon was talking about here.
I wish I could have kept my AP U.S. history book from high school. I can’t remember the name of it, but it was a really enjoyable read and a great class. Honestly I’d recommend reading through Wikipedia then any specific one book, unless you are looking into a specific detail or nuance about the war.
Stop your yapping, son. You can't just yell shit into the void and expect people to believe it's true, then insult them because they don't. The man asked for some good civil war books, I asked for a more detailed book that looks into the expanding federal banking system at the time. I find the financial banking system evil, but fascinating. If you can't add to the conversation then this is not the place for you.
Of Confederates Moseby's memoires are unsurpassably IQfy EXCEPT Mary Boykin Chesnut's Diary, which gives Emily Dickinson's Letters a run for their money-- seriously. Of Yanks, Sherman's Memoires.
1861, non-fiction that reads like fiction about how the war started
Biography of John Brown by WEB Dubois was very interesting too
Is there any depiction of the south that paints them as reasonable or good that isn't/pol/tard shit? They just seem like the bad guys no matter what you do
try not being black, you might even be able to read then
I'm white, born and raised in the south.
Huh?
>Huh?
You whine about "/pol/tard shit" then say that the South is bad guys no matter what. What, do you want me to suck your dick?
*are bad guys
What? You're deranged. You can't even read properly.
Typical gay with cognitive dissonance.
> What, do you want me to suck your dick?
Stop offering blowjobs to every man you meet, homosexual.
Stop enacting mutt's law.
>just pander to my pre-conceived biases, bro
Confederates were too in love with BBC that they couldn’t conceive a world without being near BBC. It’s fundamentally a tragic love story that led to war and misery.
Oh cool
That actually looks really good
>No one has brought up picrel
inshallah the south with rise again
forgot photo
Anyone know of a good title featuring Judah Benjamin's escape and subsequent rise as a fantastically successful barrister in London? Pity there's so little 'out there' about him and Alexander Stephens in particular.
If you want to read some overviews that contain good prose check these out.
The Civil War has never really intrigued me. I'm too Europilled. I've even been to reenactments and have a few pieces of confederate memorabilia, despite not being southern, and in general thinking the North is better. South is just cooler in the spirit and all, anybody else Europilled? Would rather learn and larp about Nappy or some other continental struggle. The United States simply isn't interesting until reconstruction, or even the 20th century.
>too Europilled
Unlike Rommel who credited Nathan Bedford Forrest for his tank battling 'philosophy,' or the then novel concept of 'Blitzkrieg': Jackson's influence on the German High Command. If (you) want to understand modern warfare, it may behove you to study a war that began as philosophically Napoleonic, but that concluded as thoroughly Modern.
>reconstruction
From what? Oh, right-- don't care, etc.
europe is gay
kys
I bought Battle Cry of Freedom and A Savage War
I haven't started them yet
Shelby Foote
This was a pretty fun read. Northerner working in the South gets press-ganged into joining the Confederate army and serves for 13 months then finds an opportunity to desert.
I couldn't give less of a frick about this worthless country
>t. cares enough to register his not caring
meds
This is just a canned reply
>t. 'fails' to note that the green text is an observation he can neither deny nor subvert
yeah, ok, genius
Three Months in the Southern States by Arthur James Lyon Fremantle
Co. Aytch by Sam R. Watkins
Recollections of a Confederate Staff Officer by G. Moxley Sorrel
Stonewall Jackson and the American Civil War by George Francis Robert Henderson
Hardtack and Coffee by John Davis Billings (I haven't read it yet, but I've seen it recommended by other anons)
>I wonder if American anons here have ancestor who fought in this war
I don't know if any of my ancestors fought in the war.
I can vouch for Hardtack and Coffee. I got through it pretty slow as I wasn't much into reading at the time but it is a good read. If you were ever in scouts it feels nostalgic reading it.
I’m interested in Patriotic Gore. Eventually I’ll get around to it
Pic is one of my favorites.
Cont.
On the flip side, pic related is one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever read where, no joke, one third of it was just the author copy pasting a long ass email exchange he had with a descendant of a participant. Like he says something along the lines of, "Our exchange will describe the story best," then it's just emails, and I flip the pages to see when it ends, and it fricking DOESN'T. This was a PUBLISHED BOOK.
It also doesn't help in the preface he mentions he wont be citing any sources because he can't recall where he got them all, but that he's sure they're reliable. I subconsciously stored some of the info from the book in my head, and in an argument on IQfy I said how lunatic fricktard James Lane actually sold the slaves he "freed" from Osceola, and when questioned on my source, I had to think before remembering it was this piece of shit book, which of course has no sources itself. It was embarrassing.
Lmfao
Hardtack and Coffee by John Billings is a really good memoir about time in the Union Army
Cold Mountain is the definitive Civil War book
Miss Ravenel's Conversion From Secession To Loyalty
>Heavy Northern and Abolitionist bias
>written by an educated Civil War veteran as a social drama less than five years after the war
>understands women as well as it does the actual way people talked and behaved back then
It's basically a fanciful memoir and skips out on the dull romanticism of shit like Gettysburg.