>Antinatalism is nihilistic
>proposes an objective framework of morality
>has a chief purpose for all of humanity
Explain?
>Antinatalism is nihilistic
>proposes an objective framework of morality
>has a chief purpose for all of humanity
Explain?
Did you get out of the madhouse to spam your irrelevant anti-natalism threads again?
>objective
No, you won’t have children OR ELSE
I'm brown. How do you feel about this now?
You need to move to my country and have as many children as possible NOW
What country?
Meds
I'm making a clear point.
Explain
The void eclipses any impotent 'primordial truth' about life.
try thinking for one second
it's art
Nihilism: no purpose, no God, no masters
Religion: you serve God
It's almost like a dichotomy or smth.
>the only alternative to nihlism is to believe this one specific book that clearly says the earth is flat.
This has to be bait. In case it isn’t, what verse are you talking about?
Also, why would you assume that he’s talking about Christianity when there are several religions which believe in Abraham’s God?
Josh 10:13 "So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies"
1 Samuel 2:8 "He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and he hath set the world upon them."
1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable."
He didn't say anything about Abrahamism. Also why do you and him assume OP is an atheist, I am not, I am a Neoplatonist.
Serving God is nihilistic
Matthew 19:12 "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."
1 Corinthians 7:1 "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."
Non-sequitur
Antinatalism is for people filtered by Buddhism.
antinatalism is the direct consequence of accepting the first noble truth but not rebirth.
for antinatalists it's as if the unborn are 'plucked' from nibbana into human life characterised by dukkha.
The irony of antinatalism
It's a purely altruistic philosophy that is perceived as evil by those who are actually selfish yet lack self-awareness
>It's a purely altruistic philosophy
>highest form of cowardice
>altruistic
They're right of course, none of us asked to be born. If they truly did stick to their principles they'd commit suicide as a way to escape the violation of existence.
You either walk the walk or you cope.
There are anti-natalists that don't believe you can escape existence by dying, like Bahnsen.
>Not escape existence by dying
I assume this is some religious form of anti-natalism, which is perhaps even more moronic than the regular variety.
Wouldn't it make sense for someone as pessimistic as an antintalaist to believe in at least the possibility of an eternal hell?
I suppose, but if you believe in hell, by extension you also believe in God.
Faith in God ultimately nullifies suffering. If one had absolute faith, suffering wouldn't exist (to the faithful).
>life bad
>I didn't consent to existence and suffering
That's fine, but the problem of antinatalism is the same problem as nihilism. If there is no point to life, or indeed, if it's such a raw deal, why keep on living?
It's a bit self contradictory.
You can be a Christian and not have kids, you can not be a Christian and be an antinatalist at the same time however. To be an antinatalist is to say by implication that God fricked up His creation and His plan isn't good enough.
>To be an antinatalist is to say by implication that God fricked up His creation and His plan isn't good enough.
For me, it just meant that the command to multiply and fill the earth had been fuflfilled, Jesus' return was imminent and therefore there was no risk of depopulating the planet no matter how many people were persuaded by antinatalism.
You've never heard of maltheism? Also Buddhists believe in hell/s and they don't believe in God.
>If there is no point to life, or indeed, if it's such a raw deal, why keep on living? It's a bit self contradictory.
I have no choice, even if my conttinued life is meaninglessly labelled as "death".
You aren't as intelligent as you think you are.
Sure, and this could be a completely secular thing. Nobody really knows what happens. There could be some kind of frickery completely allowed by natural law that makes after death wholly unpleasant. Nature obviously doesn't care much about our discomfort so long as the gene gets passed.
>If they truly did stick to their principles they'd commit suicide
Yeah, because that would make things MUCH better.
I hate antinatalists so much holy shit
How can you be so pathetic, so devoid of life that you are upset by suffering
If you want to stop suffering then sit on your couch and do nothing
You pathetic cowards
I am antinatalist for this reason alone - the amount of cope and seethe it generates.
> I am a troony for this reason alone - the amount of cope and seethe it generates
Religious explanations of meaning are far too convenient (too good to be true).
Crazy how all religions say something positive happens to you if just follow xyz rule.
Really interesting the political power of perception managers(priest class)
I plan on having as many children as possible with as many women as possible while having the most amount of leasure time and fun toys to play with.
God is a cope and control tool
Antinatalism is but one of many copes for lack of GF.
It's cope by midwits who fell for the "the only purpose in life is to reproduce meme", without realizing that necessarily has to extend morally and philosophically and is not just a biological fact
Natalism was refuted by the present existence of untreatable 100% fatal non-inherited childhood diseases like DIPG and future possibilities of s-risks
Antinatalism is just cuckoldy and self-loathing of the western european man. Die already and make way for the other civilizations, we don't need your depressive schizo shit to corrupt our cultures.
If one rejects the existence of God, then one is only left with the material, i.e. biological determinism.
To not have children in this case would negate the only objective, biological, point of life.
Personally I think anti-natalists are hedonistic, dysgenic morons who are snorting autism grade copium.
>I can travel
>I have no obligations
>I enjoy life
>I have disposable income
etc. etc.
The only valid reason to not have children is if you're not neurotypical.
Once again you don't need to be an atheist to be an antinatalist. Heck, you can be a Christian and an antinatalist, in fact it makes perfect sense for anyone who believes in ECT for a vast majority of people. I never abandoned antinatalism whe I was a Christian.
So when are the anti-natalist death squads the forcefully sterilize people?
2 more weeks
antinatalists think their "rationality" puts them above god, when their lack of humanity puts them beneath other humans
How many Christian schizos have gone on killing sprees? Besides...
>implying Sandy Hook wasn't done by the government.
Seems to be a form of negative utilitarianism.
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