One of the best recent films I've seen. Basically any film that takes a dude and puts them into a normal area but has them slowly pulling apart the layers behind the artifice, digging deeper and deeper and only finding more and more inexplicablity. It's less conspiracy but After Hours manages the same level of anxiety of a man totally outside his element. For the more conspiracy flavored I'd recommend Dark City, Inherent Vice, Big Lebowski, and Chinatown.
I love this movie but I really think it has more to do with "literally me" and the overall atmosphere than the actual plot or themes. Anons can relate to some creepy loser who spends all his time moping around, enjoying a comfortable life despite not really working.
One interesting aspect of the film that I never see getting discussed is that the main character has plenty of memorabilia lying around that he could sell to easily cover his rent. Is it a statement on how millennials can't move forward because we're too attached to our cultural heritage or nostalgia or something?
I didn't identify with the protagonist at all but what I liked is that it made a relatively banal and contemporary setting into one that could have mystery and intrigue. I find most mystery films/stories resort to using period settings, especially ones that pre-date mobile phones and the internet. The reason True Detective and to a lesser extent the extremely lame Severance did something similar. I would love more mysteries, either film or literature, with a contemporary setting.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you call Severance extremely lame? I liked it
8 months ago
Anonymous
Good premise, middling execution.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you call Severance extremely lame? I liked it
Good premise, middling execution.
>Severance
https://delicioustacos.com/2013/02/08/autopilot/
delicious tacos did it better, and did it first.
This. tbh having read/seen both, UTSL is almost a direct rip-off of Crying of Lot 49. Like if CoL 49 had a film adaptation it would most likely look like this movie.
>Hollywood Babylon, Kenneth Anger >The Shards, Bret Easton Ellis (dropped January, goes into serial killings involving "the dog killer" style calling cards)
Just go into Laurel Canyon history, Manson Family, true crime based in LA, that sort of deal.
Like for like, probably Finnegan's Wake. Film with the 3 dolls they watch in the beginning is How To Marry A Millionaire (Betty Grable's last A-list MILF hurrah with young Monroe & Bacall).
People always say Pynchon but the suspense/mystery/conspiracy aspects of it are pure Hitchwiener and have no likeness to Pynchon, largely people reducing it and Pynchon to "weird thing I don't understand." There are some interesting parallels between it and Broom of the System, could still be of interest.
I've also been looking for gritty sexually charged conspiracy noir novels with coming of age elements but I don't want super heady/gay stuff like Pynchon or Delillo but I also don't want it to be soccer mom tier either...
Crying of Lot 49
Will check it out
What’d you think about the movie
One of the best recent films I've seen. Basically any film that takes a dude and puts them into a normal area but has them slowly pulling apart the layers behind the artifice, digging deeper and deeper and only finding more and more inexplicablity. It's less conspiracy but After Hours manages the same level of anxiety of a man totally outside his element. For the more conspiracy flavored I'd recommend Dark City, Inherent Vice, Big Lebowski, and Chinatown.
read inherent vice then good intro to Pynchon which it sounds like you would enjoy
Sorry to Bother You is pretty great at this too, but it gets a lot weirder than the ones you mentioned
I love this movie but I really think it has more to do with "literally me" and the overall atmosphere than the actual plot or themes. Anons can relate to some creepy loser who spends all his time moping around, enjoying a comfortable life despite not really working.
One interesting aspect of the film that I never see getting discussed is that the main character has plenty of memorabilia lying around that he could sell to easily cover his rent. Is it a statement on how millennials can't move forward because we're too attached to our cultural heritage or nostalgia or something?
I didn't identify with the protagonist at all but what I liked is that it made a relatively banal and contemporary setting into one that could have mystery and intrigue. I find most mystery films/stories resort to using period settings, especially ones that pre-date mobile phones and the internet. The reason True Detective and to a lesser extent the extremely lame Severance did something similar. I would love more mysteries, either film or literature, with a contemporary setting.
Why do you call Severance extremely lame? I liked it
Good premise, middling execution.
>Severance
https://delicioustacos.com/2013/02/08/autopilot/
delicious tacos did it better, and did it first.
He was always eating and drinking throughout the movie, he had money and a mom that would’ve supported him
He just really wanted evicted
This. tbh having read/seen both, UTSL is almost a direct rip-off of Crying of Lot 49. Like if CoL 49 had a film adaptation it would most likely look like this movie.
>Use the source, Luke
They both seem to make no sense too
>Hollywood Babylon, Kenneth Anger
>The Shards, Bret Easton Ellis (dropped January, goes into serial killings involving "the dog killer" style calling cards)
Just go into Laurel Canyon history, Manson Family, true crime based in LA, that sort of deal.
Like for like, probably Finnegan's Wake. Film with the 3 dolls they watch in the beginning is How To Marry A Millionaire (Betty Grable's last A-list MILF hurrah with young Monroe & Bacall).
People always say Pynchon but the suspense/mystery/conspiracy aspects of it are pure Hitchwiener and have no likeness to Pynchon, largely people reducing it and Pynchon to "weird thing I don't understand." There are some interesting parallels between it and Broom of the System, could still be of interest.
I think the unresolved misteries are more important than the main mistery. Thefefore the connection to Pynchon is closer than of Hitchwiener
flicker by Theodore Roszak
Pynchon, DeLillo.
Which Delillo book exactly?
Flicker by theodore roszak
Not OP, but thanks for this. 100 pages in already and it does have that slightly humorous feel and a good conspiracy is developing as well.
I've also been looking for gritty sexually charged conspiracy noir novels with coming of age elements but I don't want super heady/gay stuff like Pynchon or Delillo but I also don't want it to be soccer mom tier either...
Any suggestions???
Such a kino movie, Liked the atmosphere a lot, Remind me of some old noir stuff, Comfy yet mysterious
Great fricking movie and I agree that you would like Inherent Vice