Historically, they there was a timeframe where they held more power within priesthood, then all of a sudden they were ousted pretty much everywhere and replaced with men. Those few that stuck around practicing were labeled as witches or sorceresses and were either hunted down or forced to go into hiding till they reached total obscurity.
I'm interested in the reasons behind this. Preferably from several angles if possible, so if you're presenting gnostic view of things, as in "fall of sophia" or something similar, I would appreciate if there can also be found an alternative to this. For instance, I remember coming across a discussion where it essentially boiled down to the fact that most societies with females in power roles were sorta more egalitarian, and they were then conquered by Indo-European Patriarchal expansion which denied the female power structure in its totality.
Is there anyone out there willing to explore this in a totally professional non-biased way? Like pls nothing of this sort:
> "OH THOSE EVIL PATRIACHS BUHUHUHUH TANTRA FEMALE POWER SHALL BE REBORN THANKS THROUGH VANGUARD OF ALLIED MEN WHO WERE BRAINWASHED BY SEX MUHAHAHAHA"
Something more impartial If possible, although I'll take the losers like the ones mentioned above if they can at least provide an interesting rare tidbit of info.
There's one book but it's so fricked up that I won't tell you.
Bachofen, Mother Right (Das Mutterrecht)
Probably Robert Graves' White Goddess?
ty bro
(buuumpiiiin for more answers as well)
Isn't the White Goddess considered to be pretty much worthless as a serious study?
Haven't read it myself tbh, just what I've heard.
It's pretty moronic and schizophrenic. If /x/ wrote a book, basically. I think at one point he says that only people with Celtic blood can be poets lmao
>only people with Celtic blood can be poets
kek
Why would you even post something like this? Shove a cactus up your ass.
seconded.
>which denied the female power structure in its totality
I don't think that's really possible.
>societies with females in power roles were sorta more egalitarian
Warfare means the male warriors get to set rules for the conquered but in more stable times political minds have the edge.
The church is a mother and the first cathedral is dedicated to the holy mother. Byzantine had empresses and Britain had queens. The witches were witches not priests.
>Don't think it's possible
It is, exceptions that go against the rule are do not count as we're dealing with "majorities", and in that case the female power structure was denied. Soft power like sucking mad pp to get what she wants isn't really what I'm interested in.
>Political minds
Those are usually just sons of the conquerors or some old warriors that have taken a backseat in terms of violence. Your comment implied that females were ruling and were in power, they werent', again exceptions to the rule do not make the main point - that majority were removed from power structures - any less relevant.
>Church is a mother
Regardless of that, the original "trinity", which was taken from Ancient Egyptian faith, had a "female" instead of holy spirit in it's trinity. When Church copied, or "repurposed" that symbolism they removed the female part in favor of "holy spirit". This means that church was more or less against any form of female power after a certain point - yes early 100s of years they were used to get more recruits by probably sucking pp but then they were ousted once they served their purpose - so I can't really say that church is a mother.
"saints" that got canonized was just a consession Christianity had to make when they baptized some of the more unruly ex-pagans. Amongst those were females supposed to take over roles for their fertility goddesses or some such, but they were ousted after a while as well or made less relevant.
>It is
Why do you just say things?
>Soft power like sucking mad pp to get what she wants isn't really what I'm interested in.
Reducing all female power to either dick sucking or your braindead fantasies about le priestesses that never fricking existed will not help you understand anything about anything.
>This means that church was more or less against any form of female power after a certain point
No it doesn't mean that. You just say random moronic shit as if it's self-evident.
>"saints" that got canonized was just a consession Christianity had to make when they baptized some of the more unruly ex-pagans. Amongst those were females supposed to take over roles for their fertility goddesses or some such, but they were ousted after a while as well or made less relevant.
More braindead fantasies. What is the fricking point of just saying random shit?
>Your comment implied that females were ruling and were in power
Always everywhere, especially in the west. You would know if you ever glanced at any history or tried to understand anything realistically instead of making up these masturbations fantasies. Nobody just gets power, everyone "sucked dick" for it.
>If women's were always in power then women's suffrage movement wouldn't have happened.
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>women's suffrage movement
About voting rights not your fantasies about oppressed pagan priestesses.
Your larping shits on the memory of the powerful women you mindlessly imitate with no understanding of anything they actually did.
Women make up the dominant conservative power structure in all healthy human and primate societies. They are the heart of the tribe, the males compete for the privilege of protecting the tribe and being allowed to mate.
In times of war the warrior men have more options. The colonization of America established a new male power of cooperating land owners, after a time of stability politics mattered more than force and women gained more leverage as predicted by what I already explained.
>I am willingly spreading cancer
>to make the world a better place
You invert everything. You're too deranged by demonic influence to even recognize anything good at this point. Even though the actual post is moron nonsense the intent you're displaying is not. You're an actual witch, a deranged puppet of evil deluding herself into pretending she's representing nature. Nature isn't evil, you and your masters are.
>the original "trinity", which was taken from Ancient Egyptian faith
What the frick are you talking about? Are you referring to the triadic grouping of deities? That's nothing like the Trinity.
why is her wiener shaped like a dolphin's nose
>historically
There is no truth to that
Incel thread?
Great thread
>esoteric
Can people stop using this word? 'esoteric' 'hidden/secret knowledge' gets thrown around so often it makes me feel sick
You'll have some guy talk about how he has secret knowledge on something and he shows you the kybalion. Listen buster, if there was any super secret super hush hush information you would have a missile flying into your house the second you came across it.
Fricking pisses me off dude. Its like transcendental meditation all over again.
Only listened to the authors lecture on Youtube but it's a fun /x/ listen.