Any updates on the Rust-free Linux fork?
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Any updates on the Rust-free Linux fork?
Any updates on the Rust-free Linux fork?
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Yeah that's not going to happen.
Linux has a shitload of contributors.
Do you know what a fork is?
I do, and it would take a shit load of contributors to de-rust the kernel and then apply patches that aren't in rust that cover the same functionality.
You don't have the personpower.
whatever linus decides makes no difference, people are going to fork linux and remove any association with rust.
>I do, and it would take a shit load of contributors to de-rust the kernel and then apply patches that aren't in rust that cover the same functionality.
you're a clueless baboon with the intelligence of vomit. not a single part of the kernel is coded using rust, never will be. when you livestream your suicide, please attach the post number of this thread to your japanese schoolgirl uniform so we can make sure it's really you. the ONLY thing linus is doing is providing official support for the language, the language isn't replacing anything. rust trannies already on thin ice after submitting code with kernel panics, because the rust trannies have no idea how linux works and have no idea how errors are handled.
>rust trannies already on thin ice after submitting code with kernel panics, because the rust trannies have no idea how linux works and have no idea how errors are handled.
It's amazing how much shit you're willing to just make up.
when you livestream your suicide, don't forget about attaching the thread number to your skirt.
When will you get out of your basement? Oh right, you're jobless. My bad
> can't defend his corporate back troony language
> everyone is pol
every single time. what a loser. i can go on for days about this subject because rust trannies have nothing but screeching to go off of
>When will you get out of your basement? Oh right, you're jobless. My bad
im retired living off of a pension, and i get to spend my days slapping around troony pedophiles that know absolutely nothing about computers or programming languages while you just barley make minimum wage to pay your rent. makes my wiener raging hard how you all fail so spectacularly, and going by this board's archive it looks like it's a regular occurrence.
>every single time. what a loser. i can go on for days about this subject because rust trannies have nothing but screeching to go off of
I'm a regular person, dipshit. So the next time you pull moronic extremism out of your fricking ass, please do it on /misc/ or at least do it somewhere else besides non-political boards
>im retired living off of a pension, and i get to spend my days slapping around troony pedophiles that know absolutely nothing about computers or programming languages while you just barley make minimum wage to pay your rent. makes my wiener raging hard how you all fail so spectacularly, and going by this board's archive it looks like it's a regular occurrence.
Haaaahahahahahahaaaaa you fricking said that on a website we're unemployed neckbeard losers dwells
Furthermore, you got no proofs, dipshit. That's how I know you are a lying stupid zoomer c**t who acts like a Gen x'er/boomer
*where
Damn autocorrect
You could have read the actual email thread those messages came from, but instead you're just reposting the garbage meme version from IQfy. If you did, you would have seen the responses where people explained that Rust "panics" are distinct from kernel "panics", and explained that the allocation code they were using was part of the proof-of-concept code they were writing, rather than something intrinsic to how Rust handles memory.
A pretty good clue to how far off you are is that image is trying to paint Linus as sarcastically dismissing Rust by "just asking questions". Linus doesn't do shit that subtly - remember the C++ rant? If he wanted the Rust people to frick off he would have said so. Instead he was sincerly asking a question, and was satisfied with the answer he got.
>rust trannies already on thin ice after submitting code with kernel panics,
Rust on Linux does not allow panics. The try_reserve<T>() got stabilized in-tree.
>Rust on Linux does not allow panics.
>code clearly shows panics
>that were allowed
>and they would have got away with it if the code was not reviewed
embarrassing. you're blind and shit in the streets.
rent free
cniles btfo
this, who the frick cares as long as it runs well, go to /misc/ to rent about trannies, trannies are not technology
>trannies are not technology
anon, i...
>/misc/ (alt-right/natsoc) is on every board now. trannies and gays will never be normal.
Hahaha, good one. Say, when are you going to go back to either r/the_Donald or
?
It's not about trannies (thanks for admitting what half your userbase is made up rust shill) it's about the fact that the kernel is now going to take at least 10x longer to compile thanks to rust's shit compiler. Hopefully when the rust gcc compiler comes out this is a non issue but while rust trannies are still hopping on LLVM dick it will be hell to even compile a 4 line driver because it will need 1000+ static deps.
sorry, I do actual work instead of compiling kernels, ergo, I don't care
/misc/ (alt-right/natsoc) is on every board now. trannies and gays will never be normal.
yep, even plebbit is looking like a better place for productive convos every passing day, how the mighty have fallen
whats technological about trannies?
get a job
Linux is a mutt OS.
rakesh, you should have payed more attention in class, linux is not an os
>rakesh, you should have payed more attention in class, linux is not an os
comedy gold, project harder
I'm not an amerifat
no ur a mutt
woof woof bark bark rrrarf rrraaaa rrrra stupid frickin mutt haha
Just compile your own kernel without the rust drivers schizo
The Rust infestation will not stop at drivers.
don't worry goy, your days of dicking around with pointers are over
from now on, you are side channel chad
Or maybe shift the Linux kernel to single-user with capability-based security.
No more whining about keyloggers in X11
ultimately the code executing on the machine is still using pointers, even if the code doesn't directly use them
you'll still have plenty to do
while rust advertises "memory safety", it usually fails to deliver
why?
its simple
people try to do something unsafe
rust says no
so they just wrap it in an unsafe block
all the unsafe code still gets written
now people just have to specifically acknowledge in the code that it's unsafe
that's the only change
Doesn't match my experience, people mostly use unsafe for FFI and primitives.
>they just wrap it in an unsafe block
That's not how the language works. Unsafe blocks don't silence errors, they only give you extra features.
How much Rust code have you read?
>Unsafe blocks don't silence errors, they only give you extra features.
This is Rust shills speaking out both sides of their mouth.
Dereferencing raw pointers is bypassing the borrow checker. Simple as.
To be sure, but if someone says "just wrap it in an unsafe block" then they don't know what unsafe Rust is like. If they had said "they just use raw pointers" or "they just transmute the lifetimes" then I'd have been able to take them seriously, but it sounds like they've never even seen unsafe Rust code.
That's criticizing their credibility, not their claim. I'm not operating on a high level of Hackernews Man's Hierarchy of Disagreement right now.
(But I also disagree with the claim. I've fixed vulnerabilities in unsafe Rust code and none of it was simply evading the borrow checker, the most common problem was not understanding some C API. It happened with Actix but I don't think it's actually very common.)
Well, at least theorically this could make people be extra cautious about what happens inside unsafe blocks, since they wouldn't have to worry about safety anywhere else
Great point. I appreciate your experience as a linux security researcher. I can't see how anyone could disagree. I mean, look how you backed it up, you even cited your own work on analyzing CVEs! And, other people agree too! Call me convinced.
Why yes, I'm cited as the researcher of CVE-2022-28380, how could you tell?
>babbys first directory traversal
It's over, Rust is finished
Incredible
So Hyperbola has completely removed Rust from its’ distro. A similar thing was done with OpenJDK.
How do people feel about the situation with trademarks getting in the way of practical issues, such as distributing modified versions?
Distribution of modified versions aren’t prohibited, but it has to be done under a different name (rightfully so).
Why is that rightfully so?
Because it prevents counterfeits legally destroying your goodwill. If someone distributes qBittorent today with crypto miner, it is going to negatively impact on the image of the product.
Do they ship Python? I remember one incident where a Python fork was told to change its name (with hints of legal action), but zero for Rust.
Debian is also incredibly autistic about this and they still ship Rust in main, they even patch it a little. So I don't buy Hyperbola's claims.
The only practical issue here is self-inflicted.
>How do people feel about the situation with trademarks getting in the way of practical issues, such as distributing modified versions?
How come every distro shipping Rust has no problem shipping patched up builds as "Rust"?
It’s in the process of being shelved and forgotten
i thought they're only allowing rust for drivers?
>This is what Rust trannies actually believe
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-19029/product_id-48677/Rust-lang-Rust.html
The first CVE on that list is fun because C++'s version of that function also has it but classifies it as undefined behavior, while Ada's (libgnat's) implementation is so hilariously broken that I hope nobody's using it in production
Why should I want it to be rust-free exactly
> literally gives support to corporate interests
it's amazing watching fosstards sucking on the wieners of corporations because they seriously believe these corporations are on their side.
What mainstream language do you think is corporate free? C/++
LMAO
>LMAO
you can tell that you've molested many children going by that reply.
c... invented by two dudes working at bell labs. bell had little influence over the language in the early days.
c++, created by one man. no corporate affiliations there.
looks like you've ran out of arguments, child raping pedophile.
>invented
>invented
That it? Your argument is that it was invented by Bell labs? Do you have any idea how the ISO C/++ committee works?
you got btfo and you have nothing left. when is the livestream of your suicide going ahead? i can't wait all day for this.
Running out of argument so quickly?
> Inbal Levi (Israel national chair)
errytiem
>redditspacing
>acts like a /misc/ack
I swear to god these normies are so sad at this point, also
>you got btfo and you have nothing left. when is the livestream of your suicide going ahead? i can't wait all day for this.
Way to make yourself look like a clown my stupid wigger
Rust was also invented by a guy working at mozilla. What I see in your post is a lot of anger and cognitive dissonance but zero argument.
C++ is controlled by Microsoft, Google and NVIDIA now.
>Rust was also invented by a guy working at mozilla
then it's also controlled by corporation, Mozilla. It's not just C++ lmao
>money bad
these corporations aren't your friend anon, wake up.
>bottom left
that's a man.
If it's the same as Sneedacity. It'll last a few months then fizzle out.
>a few months
I'd give it 1 (ONE) week. Zero code patches.
>50% of rust programmers are trannies
>no troony colors in the logo
?
Why the frick have subhumans troons decided to latch on Rust ????
It was born with the troony mentality
>safe space
This.
Holy frick, this.
This lang is doomed ain't it?
It's only a matter of time before memory safety becomes "memory exploit".
Yikes
Why do people hate Rust so much? I know that Mozilla is run by Trannies and Rust is owned by Mozilla, but that doesn't take away from the merits of the language itself
Main goal will be diversity instead of competence. It's a doomed language even if it's not so bad right now since it's in early stages.
>Any updates on the Rust-free Linux fork?
The "orange crab bad" crowd do not know any programming.
Is there any actual technical reason for Linux to get rid of Rust?
Not one reason was ever made, apart from >muh trannies waa
Of course this does not hold up in real world which is why Rust is officially the second language in linux.
there are some flaws with rust but the IQfy IQfy Black folk keep seething because their autism makes them respond badly to change
It already exists
Just a reminder that Redox-OS is written in Rust and after 7 + years still is nowhere near the usability that Linux had after 4 years.
Oh, and Redox-OS has already had at least one suicide.
>after 7 + years still is nowhere near the usability
It's far more usable than Linux was in 7 years.
By that metric the Redox-OS year of the desktop was last year.
FreeBSD exists
I'm just glad to see the seething failures of life getting perpetually blown the frick out. This is almost as good as /misc/tards getting btfo in Nov. 2020.
You morons are never right and you have to go back.
Are you too moronic to build Linux without Rust drivers or just seething because of memes without understanding what this is all about?
Both?
I'd love to see C-free Linux fork tbh.
Why not instead contribute to Redox-OS?
Funny you say that, I actually did a couple years back. Redox is a hobby OS with no corporate backing, it'll never replace Linux. Nothing will, Linux is forever, but we can improve it by getting rid of C.
So what happened then? Were you one of the guys that were kicked out?
>ok anon here's a tool that allows you to write better software without bugs
>AAAHHH TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES
Jesus.
What Rust?
Just like capitalism fell in the USA due to corporation monopolies, Rust will be the fall of free software because you just can't compete from scratch with a Rust-free fork, it takes way too many resources to deal with it. Just like you just can't compete with Google, Amazon, etc.
Let me repeat that for you.
Rust is the end of free software.
I disagree, memory safety might be the form of "programming apathy" we need to finally frick with proprietary software real good.
Are they finally adding Rust to the Linux kernel? About time.