those emails were from before he made his own store
it's always funny how gaymers hate apple and epic but love valve.
gaben bootlickers are moronic.
https://i.imgur.com/IT8xjLC.png
Apple lost against Epic games lawsuit a year ago. Next up, Steam
saying that he is angry with the 30% fee is the moron take.
the point is that he is angry with the 30% because there are big corps who don't have to pay it. it is absolutely unfair.
Surely all the devs selling on Steam are moronic and Steam offers no benefits for those 30%...
And also how perfidious of Steam letting you sell the keys yourself and then they take 0% of the money. Horrible.
Either pay 30% and have a marketplace where people actually find your game or don't pay, host your own website and get zero sales because no one will find your shitty game. Jesus Christ you morons are fricking stupid, you're the same type of idiots that complain about eBay fees.
Yeah, people talk about the cut as if it is a tax that, if reduced, people would pay a lower price
The reality is a lower cut does not benefit the actual developers or purchasers. The executives get bigger bonuses, the shareholders get bigger dividend checks, and everyone else gets nothing
>didn't read MicroDick's licensing model
Also try doing that with an xbox game or any ms store app, good luck.
Steam is still the most based platform until gabe dies, then all accounts will get raped and turned into some shitty subscription.
After that only gog will stay sound until the CEO dies and all acounts will be turned into Steam-Neo accounts with monthly fee.
Basically the same thing that happened to Oculus Rift being taken over by Meta.
Pretty sure Oculus accounts don't require a subscription.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The Oculus user had either the choice to convert his account to a meta account, or it would be deleted forever, along his apps and all the stuff you bought in there.
I like them because they support and develop for Linux. That is all. Everything else is bad. While every other company in this Earth will do things just as bad if not worse, Valve are the only ones that care about Linux.
Indeed, apple wienersuckers are pretty moronic, but I'd say valve wienersuckers are even worse. I can prove that I've never bought an Apple device, but you can't prove you haven't spent thousands on the Steam store.
I've only spent 200-300 max on the normiest games. Also Apple wienersuckers are the worst, no other wienersucker even comes close. Their wienersucking is beyond reproach.
What a moronic argument. Steam is a store not the product >I have never shopped at best buy
So fricking what?
2 months ago
Anonymous
i knew valve wienersuckers were moronic, but you take the cake. best buy isn't forcing you to go into a best buy store every time you want to use a tv you bought from them. valve is. hence valve wienersuckers will keep sucking valve wiener since they literally have wiener cages around their precious game library.
2 months ago
Anonymous
So epic is also for wienersuckers according to your logic there, got it.
And no, nothing is worse than apple fanboys, aside from maybe console fanboys. They are they definition of moronic wienersuckers
2 months ago
Anonymous
>So epic is also for wienersuckers according to your logic there, got it.
indeed. sounds like you finally understand, wienersucker
2 months ago
Anonymous
Hypocrite though you likely are in action, at least what you say is consistent.
2 months ago
Anonymous
yes, epic is shit as well anon
2 months ago
Anonymous
valve doesn't either except for their own published games? the devs could just give you a drm free version you know. some of them give you the game in gog if you own it in steam
2 months ago
Anonymous
so no different from the google play store then. yet at the same time, most people would much rather buy an app on google play say over the Amazon app store or samsung app store. i'd say gaymers are actually worse since most PC gaymers nowadays are basically "won't buy if it's not on steam". the fact that valve holds thousands of dollars worth of your games and more importantly thousands of hours of game saves makes it so gaymers are mentally invested into steam as a service and valve as a company. these games and saves are equivalent to first baby pics/vids for a normal person.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>and more importantly thousands of hours of game saves
What? You have access to all your saves and can do whatever you want with them. Steam's cloud saves are just another backup for convenience.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You also have access to all the videos from blacked.com that you can't help but jerk off to as a weak white cuckold fore you hit the sack. Don't you? You do.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Nta but I accept your concession
2 months ago
Anonymous
valve wienersuckers are funny, but valve butthurts are the funniest.
Valve doesn't stop other companies distributing their games via alternate methods. Epic does by exclusivity contracts and Apple does by locking down hardware.
Plus they are actively trying to make Linux a better operating system for graphical applications.
In what universe does that happen? Literally every game published on both platforms is the same price. The publishers just eat the extra money just like they eat the extra money from not having to produce disks for consoles and selling for same price
2 months ago
Anonymous
because valve requires it illiterate moron
It doesn't. You can find games with a cheaper base price (I.e not sale discounts) on EGS vs Steam, Steam don't try to stop it.
But the base price of games is based on expected value to the end user, not profit - if someone is pricing their game lower outside Steam that means they think the product has lower value to customers.
look up "price discrimination", then have a nice day moronic frick
2 months ago
Anonymous
Since YOU're trying to make a point, why don't YOU look it up for me, homosexual.
2 months ago
Anonymous
just skip it and have a nice day then
2 months ago
Anonymous
Valve doesn't require it, moron.
Maybe look it up before claiming random shit.
Valve even allows people to sell steam keys themselves with 0% fee.
It doesn't. You can find games with a cheaper base price (I.e not sale discounts) on EGS vs Steam, Steam don't try to stop it.
But the base price of games is based on expected value to the end user, not profit - if someone is pricing their game lower outside Steam that means they think the product has lower value to customers.
Especially when GOG exists and offers 100% DRM-free games for the exact same price as Steam. It's insane to me that they haven't overtaken Valve when they have a clearly superior offering. It makes me realize people being Black personcattle isn't just a meme.
didn't they say that they would only do alternative app stores in the EU? interesting timing with the pending possible tiktok ban too. the only way to "ban" it is to force removal from app stores, which of course only really matters on iphone
>not a gayyyyym dev
doesn't steam sales provide their own version of a high traffic s3 bucket and some servers for key verification? I mean people can b***h about 30%, but if you could pay Amazon 30% cut for use of their resources every body on the planet would.
I'm all for the fight for open platforms and less egregious fees for developers but Epic is so bad at this it makes the big tech giants look like the victims
The fight for open platforms is one worth having, but timmy is a massive hypocrite for trying to claim that's what he's fighting for. This is the butthole trying to bring the console model to pc by locking games down to their launcher via paid exclusivity. That's the definition of a walled garden.
He's also defended consoles, which are all nothing but walled gardens that give the consumer zero freedom or control and also all take 30%, with nintendo being particularly egregious with their pricing for ancient hardware and practically nonexistent sales.
All timmy wants is to be at the top of the pack while doing everything he currently claims to hate, he's just using things like 30% to try and tear down his direct competition. The epic store is bleeding tons of money with his model and is only kept alive by fortnite, while being far less convenient and consumer friendly than steam with no lower prices or passed on savings to speak of, and we know he's a massive hypocrite as his lawsuits have even forced him to admit as much.
his suits are short-sighted
the tactics tim is suing everyone over are the same tactics he wants to use once a foothold is gained
if any of his suits go through, all those companies he pissed off would be more than happy to use his precedent to bury epic in legal settlements
valve is the monopoly because
1)they literally created this ecosystem
2) they actively tried to make it better
3) they did make it better
4) their games are superior
Valve's revenue per head is 2x that off Apple. And we know Apple makes overpriced hardware, but at least they do make something instead being solely a 30% appstore grift.
Why don't they provide a good reason to use their platform? Like Linux support? At least Steam has great Linux support and community spaces, what does Epic Store have?
I'm still not going to install obvious Chinese spyware even if I get 1000 games for "free".
This fricking traitor can suck Chang's wiener all he wants, I won't.
Steam aren't the good guys but they're definitely not the bad guys either.
You nig/g/ers will cry and seethe when Gaben is gone. He is the only reason Steam isn't BTFO yet. For certain his successor will be some troony who will steal all your games.
Reminder that Epic delisted Unreal and Unreal Tournament, the games that established their flagship engine. They'd rather forget about their history than honor it like Valve does.
You have your own store competing with Steam. Shut up.
those emails were from before he made his own store
gaben bootlickers are moronic.
saying that he is angry with the 30% fee is the moron take.
the point is that he is angry with the 30% because there are big corps who don't have to pay it. it is absolutely unfair.
>gaben bootlickers are moronic.
Imagine shilling for tencent gays while he only cares about money
wdym epic only has an unreal engine downloader
why does internet jerk off steam, so much, taking 30% is criminal for barrely providing a surface.
Surely all the devs selling on Steam are moronic and Steam offers no benefits for those 30%...
And also how perfidious of Steam letting you sell the keys yourself and then they take 0% of the money. Horrible.
Either pay 30% and have a marketplace where people actually find your game or don't pay, host your own website and get zero sales because no one will find your shitty game. Jesus Christ you morons are fricking stupid, you're the same type of idiots that complain about eBay fees.
It doesn't matter at all to the consumer how much of a cut the marketplace takes
Yeah, people talk about the cut as if it is a tax that, if reduced, people would pay a lower price
The reality is a lower cut does not benefit the actual developers or purchasers. The executives get bigger bonuses, the shareholders get bigger dividend checks, and everyone else gets nothing
how much does microsoft and sony take for games on XBL or PSN? or nintendo for games on their service? or physical stores?
kys valveBlack person
>didn't read MicroDick's licensing model
Also try doing that with an xbox game or any ms store app, good luck.
Steam is still the most based platform until gabe dies, then all accounts will get raped and turned into some shitty subscription.
After that only gog will stay sound until the CEO dies and all acounts will be turned into Steam-Neo accounts with monthly fee.
Basically the same thing that happened to Oculus Rift being taken over by Meta.
Pretty sure Oculus accounts don't require a subscription.
The Oculus user had either the choice to convert his account to a meta account, or it would be deleted forever, along his apps and all the stuff you bought in there.
Black person
hurr durr what is library sharing
>They can't play shared games if you're playing ANY game
Useless. Unironically.
Skill issue. Unironically.
You're such a moron holy shit.
nah hes right
moron copetard
Yea well competition here and there, how much does Epic charge in fees?
Like 12%
it's always funny how gaymers hate apple and epic but love valve.
Because of gaben and his spontaneous 'ick on 'eck - posts
>ick on eck poster is gaben
>tfw I fapped to gaben once
I'm slightly disgusted, but will continue to fap
Because Steam is genuinely a good service with only a few faults. Constant sales and free mod support via the Workshop generate a lot of good will.
>a company with a software that constantly checks if their users pirated the game they just bought
Kek
steam doesnt do that
I like them because they support and develop for Linux. That is all. Everything else is bad. While every other company in this Earth will do things just as bad if not worse, Valve are the only ones that care about Linux.
It's always funny just how genuinely moronic Apple wienersuckers are.
Indeed, apple wienersuckers are pretty moronic, but I'd say valve wienersuckers are even worse. I can prove that I've never bought an Apple device, but you can't prove you haven't spent thousands on the Steam store.
I've only spent 200-300 max on the normiest games. Also Apple wienersuckers are the worst, no other wienersucker even comes close. Their wienersucking is beyond reproach.
What a moronic argument. Steam is a store not the product
>I have never shopped at best buy
So fricking what?
i knew valve wienersuckers were moronic, but you take the cake. best buy isn't forcing you to go into a best buy store every time you want to use a tv you bought from them. valve is. hence valve wienersuckers will keep sucking valve wiener since they literally have wiener cages around their precious game library.
So epic is also for wienersuckers according to your logic there, got it.
And no, nothing is worse than apple fanboys, aside from maybe console fanboys. They are they definition of moronic wienersuckers
>So epic is also for wienersuckers according to your logic there, got it.
indeed. sounds like you finally understand, wienersucker
Hypocrite though you likely are in action, at least what you say is consistent.
yes, epic is shit as well anon
valve doesn't either except for their own published games? the devs could just give you a drm free version you know. some of them give you the game in gog if you own it in steam
so no different from the google play store then. yet at the same time, most people would much rather buy an app on google play say over the Amazon app store or samsung app store. i'd say gaymers are actually worse since most PC gaymers nowadays are basically "won't buy if it's not on steam". the fact that valve holds thousands of dollars worth of your games and more importantly thousands of hours of game saves makes it so gaymers are mentally invested into steam as a service and valve as a company. these games and saves are equivalent to first baby pics/vids for a normal person.
>and more importantly thousands of hours of game saves
What? You have access to all your saves and can do whatever you want with them. Steam's cloud saves are just another backup for convenience.
You also have access to all the videos from blacked.com that you can't help but jerk off to as a weak white cuckold fore you hit the sack. Don't you? You do.
Nta but I accept your concession
valve wienersuckers are funny, but valve butthurts are the funniest.
>I can prove that I've never bought an Apple device
Then do it homosexual
Gaymers are children captivated by Gaben's wiener in their ass
Valve doesn't stop other companies distributing their games via alternate methods. Epic does by exclusivity contracts and Apple does by locking down hardware.
Plus they are actively trying to make Linux a better operating system for graphical applications.
valve does by preventing devs from passing the savings of lower store fees onto users.
Like how they do on epic? Oh fricking wait, that doesn't happen, they just pocket the difference.
In what universe does that happen? Literally every game published on both platforms is the same price. The publishers just eat the extra money just like they eat the extra money from not having to produce disks for consoles and selling for same price
because valve requires it illiterate moron
look up "price discrimination", then have a nice day moronic frick
Since YOU're trying to make a point, why don't YOU look it up for me, homosexual.
just skip it and have a nice day then
Valve doesn't require it, moron.
Maybe look it up before claiming random shit.
Valve even allows people to sell steam keys themselves with 0% fee.
It doesn't. You can find games with a cheaper base price (I.e not sale discounts) on EGS vs Steam, Steam don't try to stop it.
But the base price of games is based on expected value to the end user, not profit - if someone is pricing their game lower outside Steam that means they think the product has lower value to customers.
Only on Wednesdays.
Yeah, it's like Apple and Epic are intensely anti-consumer or something. Weird.
I blame the cheap 1060 era
Especially when GOG exists and offers 100% DRM-free games for the exact same price as Steam. It's insane to me that they haven't overtaken Valve when they have a clearly superior offering. It makes me realize people being Black personcattle isn't just a meme.
didn't they say that they would only do alternative app stores in the EU? interesting timing with the pending possible tiktok ban too. the only way to "ban" it is to force removal from app stores, which of course only really matters on iphone
>Host apps on alt stores
>The payment API forcefully charge 30% tax for all the in-app purchase
What's the fricking different?
you can make your own store. and as far as I know you can install from the web too.
Steam has games. Epic doesn't.
Why they mad
>not a gayyyyym dev
doesn't steam sales provide their own version of a high traffic s3 bucket and some servers for key verification? I mean people can b***h about 30%, but if you could pay Amazon 30% cut for use of their resources every body on the planet would.
You mad bro?
I'm all for the fight for open platforms and less egregious fees for developers but Epic is so bad at this it makes the big tech giants look like the victims
The fight for open platforms is one worth having, but timmy is a massive hypocrite for trying to claim that's what he's fighting for. This is the butthole trying to bring the console model to pc by locking games down to their launcher via paid exclusivity. That's the definition of a walled garden.
He's also defended consoles, which are all nothing but walled gardens that give the consumer zero freedom or control and also all take 30%, with nintendo being particularly egregious with their pricing for ancient hardware and practically nonexistent sales.
All timmy wants is to be at the top of the pack while doing everything he currently claims to hate, he's just using things like 30% to try and tear down his direct competition. The epic store is bleeding tons of money with his model and is only kept alive by fortnite, while being far less convenient and consumer friendly than steam with no lower prices or passed on savings to speak of, and we know he's a massive hypocrite as his lawsuits have even forced him to admit as much.
his suits are short-sighted
the tactics tim is suing everyone over are the same tactics he wants to use once a foothold is gained
if any of his suits go through, all those companies he pissed off would be more than happy to use his precedent to bury epic in legal settlements
I find the entire thing funny.
Epic is mad at Apple for being a monopoly, yet Epic has also done monopolistic practices.
>spending literally billions on frivolous lawsuits instead of developing a better product
certified america moment
list of good PC games:
DOOM
DOOM 2
DOOM 95
Duke Nukem 3D
Quake
Quake II
t. 80 years old
If only I could get quake 2 working on linux, and with multiplayer.
https://www.protondb.com/app/2320
Expected gold or plat for the steam release, not disappointed
Hasn't Q2 been OSS for decades?
valve is the monopoly because
1)they literally created this ecosystem
2) they actively tried to make it better
3) they did make it better
4) their games are superior
Nothing is preventing you from installing Epic's shitty launcher on your computer. There is no case here
Valve's revenue per head is 2x that off Apple. And we know Apple makes overpriced hardware, but at least they do make something instead being solely a 30% appstore grift.
Why don't they provide a good reason to use their platform? Like Linux support? At least Steam has great Linux support and community spaces, what does Epic Store have?
>what does Epic Store have
Exclusives where they pay bribes to the devs so they don't sell them in other stores 😉
I'm still not going to install obvious Chinese spyware even if I get 1000 games for "free".
This fricking traitor can suck Chang's wiener all he wants, I won't.
Steam aren't the good guys but they're definitely not the bad guys either.
You mad bro?
You nig/g/ers will cry and seethe when Gaben is gone. He is the only reason Steam isn't BTFO yet. For certain his successor will be some troony who will steal all your games.
and it's entirely the fault of that fat israelite enabling this whole account-based DRM cancer in the first place
Reminder that Epic delisted Unreal and Unreal Tournament, the games that established their flagship engine. They'd rather forget about their history than honor it like Valve does.