are "audiophiles" really that stupid?

are "audiophiles" really that stupid?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    128bit 384kHz fricking WHEN

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. can't even hear everything in 16/44.1

      I don't understand audiophiles who spend 10k on a fricking speaker cable because it apparently sounds more bassy or some shit like that.
      Why not just use an equalizer if you wanna boost some specific frequency?

      Placebo effect can be a hell of a drug.

      >his malloc() implementation isn't audiophile-grade

      >special memory copy functions
      >"hard edged" 1's and 0's
      One hell of a drug.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know what low glitch is in a DAC
        You think you're smart, but you don't know how silicon or analog works.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > just makes shit up due to lack of medication for severe schizophrenia
          > low glitch
          quantization errors, you poorly educated Black person. and no, you can't hear them in modern dacs because of proper error correction and filtering. fricking Black person.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for answering him for me.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Audiophiles enjoy nice stereo systems. What you're looking at is "high end" audio which is akin to male israeliteelry such as fancy watches.

    It's quite the opposite from audio science review chinks, who claim all kinds of bizarre things such as Apple's iPhone DAC being "the best."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its certainly better than your average DAC, but I've also heard better, not to mention that DAC dongle is hilariously underpowered and needs an amp for anything outside of your average headphones.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its certainly better than your average DAC
        No it's not, it's just as shit. Same lame class D driver shit as any other garbage these days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its certainly better than your average DAC
        never happened
        > DAC dongle is hilariously underpowered
        this shit isn't designed so you can plug your studio headphones into them. and no, apple doesn't give a frick about your $1k sony headphones or whatever. as long as they power beats by dre or some godawful low powered cancer then it "just werks".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >its certainly better than your average DAC
          No it's not, it's just as shit. Same lame class D driver shit as any other garbage these days.

          as in better the average built in dac that any PC or smartphone that still has a headphone jack in it does.
          Is there a USB C dongle you guys would recommend? Bonus points if it works with the Switch.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >as in better the average built in dac that any PC or smartphone that still has a headphone jack in it does
            According to the opinions of random chinks and poos on a web site.

            Who don't even use proper test equipment. Just blind listening tests, using idiots off the street, listening to music they don't even know.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's wrong with their test equipment?
            https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-apple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >as in better the average built in dac
            no better or lesser than what you can find in your pc. 24bit, 48khz (from what i can recall, i can't quite remember the exact specs).

            I'm telling you, placebo effect is a HELLUVA drug. It's not just audio. In fricking medicine you get people experiencing tumor size reduction and they're not getting the new anti cancer drug, they're getting the fricking placebo.

            As for audio, at some level those $50k cables really did make their stereo sound better to them. Our brains release more "feel good" chemicals if we anticipate/expect X to be better than Y and we get X. So yeah, they're stupid for spending money on something that makes no physical difference. But they believe it does so they actually experience a difference, at which point they fight with you because you just don't know man, you've never had good $50k cables.

            have you ever seen $50k in cash before? i have. and there's no amount of serotonin could be released in my brain to convince me that blowing it on garbage audio products was a good idea. these people are mentally ill morons and should never encouraged.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >have you ever seen $50k in cash before? i have. and there's no amount of serotonin could be released in my brain to convince me that blowing it on garbage audio products was a good idea. these people are mentally ill morons and should never encouraged.
            I agree with you, I'm just explaining what's going on in their brains. Below a certain IQ level you believe that the cable really can make a difference. And then you spend the money. And then your brain dumps chemicals as you listen because you're expecting it to not only be better, but be so much better that you're not an idiot for blowing $50k on a fricking wire. I mean, at that point it's an evolved survival instinct. The brain is trying to prevent them from realizing what they've done so they don't suicide.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The brain is trying to prevent them from realizing what they've done so they don't suicide.
            when you put it that way it starts making a lot more sense

          • 3 weeks ago
            Prof. Oak

            I agree with this anon, $50000 is a decades worth of beer and weed and I think beer and weed would make my music sound better than those cables would.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >beer and weed would make my music sound better than those cables would.
            100% factual

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you namegayging for some specific reason?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's doing research for his Beerdex.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I left it in from a different post and forgot to remove it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The boomers buying this don't have that much time, they just want to dump their money on every snake oil product before their time is over.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No it's the same as having a classic car which you drive twice a year. It's to impress people.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand audiophiles who spend 10k on a fricking speaker cable because it apparently sounds more bassy or some shit like that.
    Why not just use an equalizer if you wanna boost some specific frequency?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These are made for people who run hedge funds, it's simply male israeliteelry.

      OTOH their shit blows your garbage out of the water. So do much more reasonably priced options.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they are not
        I know an audiophile, he is not rich at all, just spends all his money on this shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they are not
          Yes they are.

          >I know an audiophile, he is not rich at all, just spends all his money on this shit
          Sure you do, we all believe this very true anecdote.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yet his anectode is worth even more than a useless blanket statement with no substantiation.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >his malloc() implementation isn't audiophile-grade

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How does this compare to C++ RAII or large static arrays?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    funniest part are the options

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >€11k tripod

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its an audiophile tripod, gives better sound stage and makes your music more colorful

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Technologically does it even matter that the cables are separated in pic 1 when they end in together in the same port on both sides anyway? Isn't it even worse because it's more sensitive for electromagnetic interference when they are spread apart?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are two ways to look at diminishing returns:
    >diminishing 🙁
    >returns! 😀

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Check head-fi forum and their review section. They post reviews about cables extending the treble and creating a "3d sounstage"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They post reviews about cables extending the treble and creating a "3d sounstage"
      i can't believe it's not drug abuse. i used to think all these people had some extreme cocaine or heroin addiction that would go some way to explain their strange beliefs. maybe some kind of cult leader is involved? sadly no cult leader to be found, or an actual cult. they're just your garden variety selection of fricking dumb c**ts. the audiophile's profound level of moronation entertains me greatly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm telling you, placebo effect is a HELLUVA drug. It's not just audio. In fricking medicine you get people experiencing tumor size reduction and they're not getting the new anti cancer drug, they're getting the fricking placebo.

        As for audio, at some level those $50k cables really did make their stereo sound better to them. Our brains release more "feel good" chemicals if we anticipate/expect X to be better than Y and we get X. So yeah, they're stupid for spending money on something that makes no physical difference. But they believe it does so they actually experience a difference, at which point they fight with you because you just don't know man, you've never had good $50k cables.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They post reviews about cables extending the treble and creating a "3d sounstage"

      fricking insane

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hahaha, time to grift. Idiots.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I watched dankpods, bought the grado 80x and the pure sound quality is great, but the soundstage sucks more than any of my closed backs. I do not get that 3d sound he was talking about.
    Also if that "3dbarbershop" vid on yt can sound incredibly 3d on any old earphone, why don't bands have their albums mixed like that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Total channel separation sounds awful in a car. Music has been mixed for the automobile since the 1980s. Most people don't even own or listen to music recreationally at home, they listen to it in the car or during work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shouldn't it be mixed for earphones since every normie has a pair or airpods or tws buds in their ears all the time now?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.

          What's wrong with their test equipment?
          https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-apple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/

          >one tone test
          They literally are third worlders who have no idea what they're measuring, and who haven't even read the most basic introductory material on psychoacoustics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you have a better test suite for it? I would agree that a 1 kHz test isn't as good as a 20-20 test, but I also don't expect a DAC that performs well on the former to surprisingly be shit on the latter. Any evidence that the Apple dongle is shit?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You compare actual program material. Music. Play the same music into the headphones, record it, and subtract the original, thus giving you the error. You do this on a heavy, rubber model of a human head with the actual earphones centered over the molded model ears, and the mic is deep inside the ear canal at the same depth as an eardrum.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That would maybe be an even better test. But I just would not expect a DAC that does well on a tone test to fail on the test you describe. I think the test you describe would be more relevant for headphones and speakers. There I could imagine a tone test saying something is good only to find out there are problems with the more comprehensive test.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But I just would not expect a DAC that does well on a tone test to fail on the test you describe.
            Why? Anyway they don't even do a two tone test. Their methodology is fricking garbage.

            The end of the road for the audiophile is coming to the realization, that the quality of a person's sense of hearing is multitudes more important for listening quality than whatever their obsessive-compuslive microscopic optimization is able to achieve and that they will never experience a truly perfect listening experience, especially if they are over the age of 30. At which point they will kill themself.

            You sound really angry and deaf.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You sound really angry and deaf.
            NTA you sound like you purchased €23,430.00 cables

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why?
            Because it's a fricking DAC and that level of electronics is a solved problem. You're just not going to have circuitry that's 99 SINAD at 1 kHz but dog shit at 20 Hz or 20 kHz. You might see a variance of 1. Speakers/headphones and amps need 20-20 testing. Speakers/headphones especially because they are literally the least perfect component by nature of what they have to do. Transducers are part art and part science and are the one place where coloration and personal preference truly do come into play.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Audiophiles continue to perpetuate my belief that dumb money exists and has a self aggrandizing feedback loop

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're pretending one species is actually two. "Audiophiles" exist, and don't fall for shit like this. Then there's the louder, dumber - and frankly, more numerous - "audiophools", which this is targeted at.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait until you find out about the power cables.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The end of the road for the audiophile is coming to the realization, that the quality of a person's sense of hearing is multitudes more important for listening quality than whatever their obsessive-compuslive microscopic optimization is able to achieve and that they will never experience a truly perfect listening experience, especially if they are over the age of 30. At which point they will kill themself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The end of the road for the audiophile is coming to the realization, that the quality of a person's sense of hearing is multitudes more important for listening quality than whatever their obsessive-compuslive microscopic optimization is able to achieve and that they will never experience a truly perfect listening experience, especially if they are over the age of 30. At which point they will kill themself.
      If only. They'll just bullshit themselves into believing they have golden ears thanks to their self-inflicted tinnitus that will somehow allow them to hallucinate things no one else can hear. And the cycle will repeat itself over and over.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think the main issue here is people like you, who have never heard a good sound system, assume that they must all sound the same. You're a little dorm dweller and you have some cheap(ish) headphones, you listen to pirated music on a phone.

        It's like asking a person who only ever eats gruel if they prefer beef or pork. You wouldn't know - you only eat thin watery gruel.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why so pissed at him? If you're going to claim that cables make a difference then I hate to tell you who is right.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he's strawmanning
          Oooooh, looks like I hit the spot! How's your tinnitus?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a strawman, people can easily tell who's the dorm dwelling child who doesn't even want to be here.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Refer to the image above K E K

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          damn bro u sound kinda pathetic ngl

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dorm dweller detected

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            we know what u are but what are we

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we
            Got a mouse in your pocket?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no i got birds

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they will give you bird fancier's lung, very risky pets

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >capitalism makes sens-

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >company israelites people out with ridiculous prices
      >damn capitalism
      hate the players, not the game, pinko

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >players directly manipulate the game
        Nah, I hate the game too. And it's a false dilemma to say "but muh communism is worse!" Communism is worse, but there are better options.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just glad i went to CanJam. 1k should be the absolute maximum you spend on iem's at least. Maybe 3k for overears

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >trip
    >filename
    >he expects me to take him seriously
    here's a pity (You) for the effort

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you can't tell what sounds better by listening to it, you need 5 degrees

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >troon trying to LARP as a straight internet user
    what a strange sight

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure who's more sad, the yuropoor morons who buy that overpriced trash or the headphone cucks.

    A good set of speakers are $500-$1000 MAX.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >yuropoor morons
      >he says while having shitseries headphones in full view
      OH NONONONO HOLY KEK

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes my poor friend, I listen to music on the nice speakers (and sealed subs) and I use the wireless headphones to talk to people while I play games.

        is the concept of speakers odd to you because you're packed in a bugman apartment 400 per floor? I can't even see my neighbors house 🙂

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes is it really that bad over that. I had no idea they made so little...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shitseries
          You can't afford an actual headset?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          are you ready to talk about living costs?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post audiosneks and resonancepebbles

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >put on headphones

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So many poorgays lmao. Literally all your behavior can be accredited to being europoors in shitty apartments with wifi EMI through the ass. If you were to live on proper land stuff like your neighbor turning on your microwave wouldn't disrupt your sound signals, but you're all just too convinced thats how good audio sounds like. On private land, far away from high voltage lines or antennas, I can use the more sensitive wires just fine and dont need to settle with shielded wires that increase the impedance and make the sound shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >europoors
      zogbots too

      they all live communally in little pods, so they can't even conceive of having a nice large stereo and castigate all people with one as "audiophiles" who are merely doing it because they're dumb or something

      Shielding is necessary though, I use balanced connections to my speakers and I use a balanced input from my CD player to the preamp, and mostly digital connections otherwise. The issue is *EVERY* power adapter these days is noisy as frick.

      One trick I recommend (as a ham) is take any portable battery AM radio, tune it to dead air, then just walk around the house and wave it over everything, you'll hear all your garbage screeching away.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So it can be used to detect poor shielding? What cheap model could I get for this if I don't actually care to use it as a proper radio?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nta but fm radios work just as well

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does sharur post here? It smells

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dt990 schizoid? He used too iirc and probably explains the posts above
      I love that moron, it's reassuring to know there's someone that moronic in this world (it's a "at least you're not anthony burch" kind of thing)

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    audophilia is a sect for wealthy and dumb people. for those who don't study physics, the world is all magic. they'll run "special signals" thru "oxygen free" copper cables, "heating" them up and pretending they notice a difference between a $3 and $500 power cord plugged to same power outlet. those people are scared shitless of blind tests because their rose tinted world of audio equipment would come crumbling on them very quickly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually it mostly comes down to having decently sized speakers with ideally, a Class A amplifier. You're talking about the high-end audio market, which largely serves Arab princes and other super wealthy types. They can afford to buy stuff just to show off their wealth. Audiophiles often make their own amplifiers, speakers, DACs, etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Audiophiles often make their own amplifiers, speakers, DACs, etc.
        Yeah, I was taling about "stupid-high-end" market. "Audiophile" term here sadly doesn't discriminate between guys with gold bars in stead of brain matter and folks who build their own stuff, be it a hobby or means to save money. Being an amateur electronics guy, I have big respect for the latter,

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is a never ending supply of used top-end audio equipment too. Everything in my rack is used. Heck the Japs don't really even export anything like '80s-2000's era Pioneer Elite or Sony ES components any more. I just put a Sony DVP-S9000ES into my rack that I got for $30. That's less than a dollar a pound. It's beautifully made. Nothing like this in the sub-$5K market at all any more.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use kabeldirekt cables, they work just fine and they're cheaper than ~~*thomann*~~ because they don't frick you over with shipping fees

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only time i've cared about audiophile shit was when i upgraded my car's stereo, i needed something that sounded good but didn't cut through my engine's high octane-fueled screaming

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trip

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know a trust fund kid who paid 10,000$ for headphones but then ended up using 10$ cheap headphones for everyday use.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      average audeze(nuts) owner

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